Wheel puncturing Sill on a vantage
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I appreciate the whole thread has been deleted for good reason, but one point that Bamford Mike mentioned didn't make much sense to me (I'm probably being thick though). I knew I should have asked this last night before heading to bed!,
In a photo of a recent crash damaged vantage, He said that the tub had a component which punctured the tire to avoid it being pushed into the pedal box / cabin in the even of a crash, this was to reduce the energy?
Maybe it's the way I read it, but it didn't make much sense to me, as surely the energy is not going to be reduced by much due to deflation prior to hitting the tub?
I'm wondering rather if he was trying to say was that it's designed to puncture, hook and effectively grab the tire and arrest further progress into the tub.
Not seeking to re-start the previous thread in all it's libel glory, but I'm genuinely interested to understand more of this design feature, and specifically what it should look like on an un damaged car.
Cheers
AndyR
In a photo of a recent crash damaged vantage, He said that the tub had a component which punctured the tire to avoid it being pushed into the pedal box / cabin in the even of a crash, this was to reduce the energy?
Maybe it's the way I read it, but it didn't make much sense to me, as surely the energy is not going to be reduced by much due to deflation prior to hitting the tub?
I'm wondering rather if he was trying to say was that it's designed to puncture, hook and effectively grab the tire and arrest further progress into the tub.
Not seeking to re-start the previous thread in all it's libel glory, but I'm genuinely interested to understand more of this design feature, and specifically what it should look like on an un damaged car.
Cheers
AndyR
I'd say the structure looks to server several purposes;
- energy absorbance by deforming
- tranmission of energy around the tub to protect occupants, hence why it is integral to the tub
- change direction of the wheel away from the tub to prevent intrusion
- deflates the tyre to prevent any energy transfer/rebound from a lose & inflated tyre/wheel
As a simple person I see it in simple terms
A fully inflated tyre is a fairly hard object........ A flat tyre is a fairly soft object...
Maybe the objective is, that if there is to be an impact into a certain area ie the pedal area of a car.... That impact is better if the object doing the impacting is soft rather than hard...
Would you rather be hit by a piece of foam.......or a piece of wood..... That sort of thing

A fully inflated tyre is a fairly hard object........ A flat tyre is a fairly soft object...
Maybe the objective is, that if there is to be an impact into a certain area ie the pedal area of a car.... That impact is better if the object doing the impacting is soft rather than hard...

Would you rather be hit by a piece of foam.......or a piece of wood..... That sort of thing

Lunablack said:
Would you rather be hit by a piece of foam.......or a piece of wood.....
Your comment Lunar, reminded me of the question that is often put by the protest groups, who want to bring back the man (probably human of any gender now) with the red flag."Would you rather be hit by a car at 40 mph, or by one at 30 mph?"
Answer, I would prefer to be hit by a car that is NCap 5 rated.

Robbontherock said:
I appreciate the whole thread has been deleted for good reason, but one point that Bamford Mike mentioned didn't make much sense to me (I'm probably being thick though). I knew I should have asked this last night before heading to bed!,
In a photo of a recent crash damaged vantage, He said that the tub had a component which punctured the tire to avoid it being pushed into the pedal box / cabin in the even of a crash, this was to reduce the energy?
Maybe it's the way I read it, but it didn't make much sense to me, as surely the energy is not going to be reduced by much due to deflation prior to hitting the tub?
I'm wondering rather if he was trying to say was that it's designed to puncture, hook and effectively grab the tire and arrest further progress into the tub.
Not seeking to re-start the previous thread in all it's libel glory, but I'm genuinely interested to understand more of this design feature, and specifically what it should look like on an un damaged car.
Cheers
AndyR
In the instance of this accident the o/s/f wheel sheered off and was the first thing we saw, on arriving on the scene, some considerable distance from the car. Had it been pushed into the passenger compartment by the impact I imagine my very-new-son-in-law would have had serious life-changing leg injuries. Whatever the design it is brilliant in it's capacity to spare damage to the passenger cell and I am greatly reassured by it.In a photo of a recent crash damaged vantage, He said that the tub had a component which punctured the tire to avoid it being pushed into the pedal box / cabin in the even of a crash, this was to reduce the energy?
Maybe it's the way I read it, but it didn't make much sense to me, as surely the energy is not going to be reduced by much due to deflation prior to hitting the tub?
I'm wondering rather if he was trying to say was that it's designed to puncture, hook and effectively grab the tire and arrest further progress into the tub.
Not seeking to re-start the previous thread in all it's libel glory, but I'm genuinely interested to understand more of this design feature, and specifically what it should look like on an un damaged car.
Cheers
AndyR
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