Am I being ripped off by porsche???
Am I being ripped off by porsche???
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Shilts147

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3 posts

156 months

Sunday 20th October 2013
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My annual service was due to on my 996 so I got the car booked in for a major service. I thought that this included spark plugs but as it didn't I swapped it to a minor service £265 as the only difference was the air filter (£10)????

They gave me a new porsche Boxster curtesy car which was absolutely fantastic until I was following a fiesta on a country lane and went over a pot hole! The tyre went flat although there was no damage to the alloy but obviously no spare wheel so I called the dealership and 2hrs later a recovery truck came for the car.

I paid £16 the day before to cover me on their insurance and agreed the excess of £250. The following day they called me and said that I would have to pay £253 to cover the tyre. I thought expensive service but could have happened to me at any point so said that I would take it on the chin.

On reflection I am thinking that the car in front went over the same pot hole and was fine (but he wouldn't have 20" rims). Also i work for Motorpoint car supermarket and we have had customers bump cars with £2500 worth of damage and not charged them a penny.

What has really annoyed me is that I left the service lady my card details and she said that she would put the invoice in the post. It has arrived today with a note saying sorry but she made a mistake and forgot to add vat on top of the price of the tyre and has therefore deducted over £300 from my account without my permission!!!

SpeckledJim

34,338 posts

283 months

Sunday 20th October 2013
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Isn't all that basically what you agreed would happen if you pranged their Porsche? Your only quibble is the difference between £250 and £300?

AndyBrew

2,774 posts

249 months

Sunday 20th October 2013
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No I wouldn't say so, one of those things I guess, don't worry yourself and move on smile

HTP99

25,357 posts

170 months

Sunday 20th October 2013
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You mention cars from your place that have been bumped and having £2500 damage and not charging the driver; well one would assume that would be an insurance job so therefore the worst that you could have done would have had to charge the driver the excess, but your company chose not to, a tyre wouldn't be covered under insurance so really it's just up to the Porsche dealer to decide whether to take it on the chin themselves or charge you for the tyre, they chose the latter; which I would say there were perfectly entitled to do so as their car was in your charge at the time.

It all comes down to a goodwill gesture, they decided not to extend you any goodwill and they are entitled to do so, however I would be inclined to at least query the "VAT" payment on the tyre, the lady told you a price, she screwed up so really you should pay the lower price, particularly as they didn't check with you first before charging you more than agreed.

sandman77

3,418 posts

168 months

Sunday 20th October 2013
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Thanks for telling the story about the spark plugs. smile


Shilts147

Original Poster:

3 posts

156 months

Sunday 20th October 2013
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I am more than happy and I think that it is fair that I pay £253/£250 not going to quibble over £3. However when you take out over £300 without letting me know...that's when I have a problem!

Magic919

14,561 posts

231 months

Sunday 20th October 2013
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Car insurance doesn't usually cover the tyres. That's why they are charging you. The VAT bit was just an error. Ring them and they might be able to sort something out.

greygoose

9,669 posts

225 months

Sunday 20th October 2013
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Whilst they are within their rights to charge you it does seem to me that a bit of goodwill would be better to keep a customer happy. Adding the VAT on after they quoted a price seems naughty too.

Pistom

6,422 posts

189 months

Sunday 20th October 2013
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I wouldn't expect them to be out of picket and forgetting VAT is easy to do.

I'd just pay up and forget about it. It's not a huge amount of money and these things happen.

waterwonder

1,002 posts

206 months

Sunday 20th October 2013
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Insurance is irrelevant IMO it's not likely to include tyres, or clutches etc etc.

The only problem is deducting an different amount to what you agreed/authorised. Whether the £47 is worth arguing over is only something you can decide.

budfox

1,510 posts

159 months

Sunday 20th October 2013
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Buy the loan vehicle and they'll probably knock £300 off. A win-win situation if ever there was one.

PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

187 months

Sunday 20th October 2013
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You could try to claim the cost back from the Council.

METHS

2,107 posts

166 months

Sunday 20th October 2013
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Why the fk are they charging you vat? Are you taking the tyre home with you??


If it's for the businesses car, then they won't pay any vat on the tyre anyway. Vat only applies to the things you BUY from the dealership.

And by law, they should be charging you the cost of the tyre at the price they get the tyre for, they aren't allowed to slap on their dealer margin. There's a law about this, can't remember which one. laugh

Unless I'm very much mistaken....

Edited by METHS on Sunday 20th October 10:32

DrDeAtH

3,701 posts

262 months

Sunday 20th October 2013
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The OP will pay vat. He has bought a tyre, technically he bought the one he ruined and I doubt he would like to take it home, unless he wanted it to show the council when he sues them for it.

dxg

10,789 posts

290 months

Sunday 20th October 2013
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He hasn't bought a tyre and then gifted it to the dealer.

He has offered to recompense the dealer for their costs.

DonkeyApple

70,463 posts

199 months

Sunday 20th October 2013
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I'd be more concerned that a Porsche dealer has potentially put an odd tyre on a performance car they lend to customers.

mudster

792 posts

274 months

Sunday 20th October 2013
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Ask the dealer if you can pay the trade price for the tyre as they're getting betterment from a new tyre. Worth asking as £300 would be the retail IMO.

daemon

40,169 posts

227 months

Sunday 20th October 2013
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Shilts147 said:
My annual service was due to on my 996 so I got the car booked in for a major service. I thought that this included spark plugs but as it didn't I swapped it to a minor service £265 as the only difference was the air filter (£10)????

They gave me a new porsche Boxster curtesy car which was absolutely fantastic until I was following a fiesta on a country lane and went over a pot hole! The tyre went flat although there was no damage to the alloy but obviously no spare wheel so I called the dealership and 2hrs later a recovery truck came for the car.

I paid £16 the day before to cover me on their insurance and agreed the excess of £250. The following day they called me and said that I would have to pay £253 to cover the tyre. I thought expensive service but could have happened to me at any point so said that I would take it on the chin.

On reflection I am thinking that the car in front went over the same pot hole and was fine (but he wouldn't have 20" rims). Also i work for Motorpoint car supermarket and we have had customers bump cars with £2500 worth of damage and not charged them a penny.

What has really annoyed me is that I left the service lady my card details and she said that she would put the invoice in the post. It has arrived today with a note saying sorry but she made a mistake and forgot to add vat on top of the price of the tyre and has therefore deducted over £300 from my account without my permission!!!
I dont see this being wholly different to kerbing one of the alloys. Yes it could be described as 'accidental' but in some way its a form of lack of care for which you would rightly have to pay for. Same with the tyre - ultimately you smacked a 20 inch alloy through a pothole that hard that it burst the tyre.

Personally i'd probably suck it up RE: the VAT, but you could certainly query it and see what they say.


RobM77

35,349 posts

264 months

Sunday 20th October 2013
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Surely between the major and minor service there's a difference in what they inspect/check?

steve singh

3,995 posts

203 months

Sunday 20th October 2013
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RobM77 said:
Surely between the major and minor service there's a difference in what they inspect/check?
On a turbo the major includes spark plugs...

Agree with daemon above too...