8k down the drain
Discussion
So just wondered, having bought the car for 8.5k, having had one years running, limited as it was, followed by 2.5 months off the road, totally absent, full disassmbly, full concours - ish, chassis, better than new rebuild, with engine 12k service and cylinder leak check, 'mint', diff rebuild at grantura engineering.
Just wondered if anyone thought that given a bill of about 8k whether that was money well spent, ie, if I was bankrupt tommorow and had to sell is the car worth 15/16000, personally I reckon it is based on the wheeler dealers adventure.
Next year I am looking at the speed6 warranties from str8six and power and a year later my dash and limited trim refurb, cos its still awesome and a year after that if i'm still alive a front end paint job, but, whadya think, is the Cerb in any guise and any donk a 20k car, I reckon, the loved, painstakingly, home or otherwise rest'os must be.
I do not understand when looking at Cerbs for sale why people don't include full detailed pictures of the chassis.
It is without doubt the single thing holding back the prices of these bewildering awesome cars and if i do sell in the future it will be a photo of a pristine white powdercoated chassis that is the first picture in the ad.
2 questions
have I wasted my money, kinda know the answer to that.
how many cerbera owners really know what the state of there chassis/ outriggers is.
My advice if you don't know 100%, or that the PO or garage's dogs uncle's cat once said waxoyl had been spilt near a TVR, YOU AINT GOTTA CLUE.
Spend a little at an experts there can't be more than 4/5 real experts in the country and then you'll know, Its a labour of love, these cars need input, and that isn't just fuel n servicing, honestly they weren't built to last, even the 60's Lotus's were only given a decade or so and they are cherished now, TVR maybe a lesser marque( given the sports pedigree) but a Great British treasure nonetheless, and need lots of input.
I am skint and now the proud owner of another credit card. But also the caretaker of a rather beautiful grunt of British Engineering, this may now sound like a rallying call,
BUT DIG DEEP. DIG LONG. AND DIG HARD. FOR IT IS A RELENTLESS ONWARD SLOG, THAT IS SO REWARDING WHEN SHE DOES ACTUALLY START FIRST TIME AS SHES MEANT TO,
and if you do intend to pass it on at some point you might do considerably better cos its a Cerbera AND NOT A Citroen, you might actually get your money back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cheers Karl
Just wondered if anyone thought that given a bill of about 8k whether that was money well spent, ie, if I was bankrupt tommorow and had to sell is the car worth 15/16000, personally I reckon it is based on the wheeler dealers adventure.
Next year I am looking at the speed6 warranties from str8six and power and a year later my dash and limited trim refurb, cos its still awesome and a year after that if i'm still alive a front end paint job, but, whadya think, is the Cerb in any guise and any donk a 20k car, I reckon, the loved, painstakingly, home or otherwise rest'os must be.
I do not understand when looking at Cerbs for sale why people don't include full detailed pictures of the chassis.
It is without doubt the single thing holding back the prices of these bewildering awesome cars and if i do sell in the future it will be a photo of a pristine white powdercoated chassis that is the first picture in the ad.
2 questions
have I wasted my money, kinda know the answer to that.
how many cerbera owners really know what the state of there chassis/ outriggers is.
My advice if you don't know 100%, or that the PO or garage's dogs uncle's cat once said waxoyl had been spilt near a TVR, YOU AINT GOTTA CLUE.
Spend a little at an experts there can't be more than 4/5 real experts in the country and then you'll know, Its a labour of love, these cars need input, and that isn't just fuel n servicing, honestly they weren't built to last, even the 60's Lotus's were only given a decade or so and they are cherished now, TVR maybe a lesser marque( given the sports pedigree) but a Great British treasure nonetheless, and need lots of input.
I am skint and now the proud owner of another credit card. But also the caretaker of a rather beautiful grunt of British Engineering, this may now sound like a rallying call,
BUT DIG DEEP. DIG LONG. AND DIG HARD. FOR IT IS A RELENTLESS ONWARD SLOG, THAT IS SO REWARDING WHEN SHE DOES ACTUALLY START FIRST TIME AS SHES MEANT TO,
and if you do intend to pass it on at some point you might do considerably better cos its a Cerbera AND NOT A Citroen, you might actually get your money back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cheers Karl
Having spent the last couple of months under mine I know where the problems are...the outriggers. Luckily the main rails/chassis is in good condition and after being sanded back, rust treated and painted they look fine.
You can never waste money if you spend it on something that makes you happy. Look at it this way, when you are old and dying do you want to have a s
t load of money in the bank or a st load of happy memories in your head.
You can never waste money if you spend it on something that makes you happy. Look at it this way, when you are old and dying do you want to have a s
t load of money in the bank or a st load of happy memories in your head.
TimJM said:
You can never waste money if you spend it on something that makes you happy. Look at it this way, when you are old and dying do you want to have a st load of money in the bank or a st load of happy memories in your head.
t load of money in the bank or a st load of happy memories in your head.
8K to the god of speed is nowt!
Just spent £150 on new front caliper pistons this morning, reason they didn't look good enough for me!
Didn't read the full post but am an expert on spending money on cerbs. Hey you can't take it with you. Depreciation on a new mondeo would make cerb costs pale into insignificance. My D3 has depreciated £18k min since I bought it, the same car has cost c£1k pa to service / repair over 6yrs, my d2 has cost £3k in a year, my mini not very much and my cerb has been relatively cheap for me this year (I guess £4.5k). So can't be bothered to do the maths but if I'd walked everywhere for 5 years I'd have sore feet and £50k in the bank.
There are many different meanings about bringing a car up to
concours.
8k may just be enough for bringing paint, carpets and leather up to
concours. Of course depending on what you are able to do yourself if
you have the possibilities to do it concours.
We managed to spend nearly 10k just for bringing an AJP car back on
the road after a 10 year lay up and the engine was okay and running in
that case. Not many nice shiny bits included in that amount, apart from
shiny new injectors, clutch and flywheel.
Not at all new tires and suspension or wheels refurbished.
I think the cheapest way would be buying a very nice nearly as new
Cerbera. Even the best ones are not crazily expensive, if there is one on the market.
You may still need some pocketmoney for this and that nonetheless.
Only my two pence.
concours.
8k may just be enough for bringing paint, carpets and leather up to
concours. Of course depending on what you are able to do yourself if
you have the possibilities to do it concours.
We managed to spend nearly 10k just for bringing an AJP car back on
the road after a 10 year lay up and the engine was okay and running in
that case. Not many nice shiny bits included in that amount, apart from
shiny new injectors, clutch and flywheel.
Not at all new tires and suspension or wheels refurbished.
I think the cheapest way would be buying a very nice nearly as new
Cerbera. Even the best ones are not crazily expensive, if there is one on the market.
You may still need some pocketmoney for this and that nonetheless.
Only my two pence.
I've had mine several years and not really spent anything other than service costs.
Then the slave cylinder went, that meant the chassis was exposed and could be worked on, the clutch was pretty worn and was replaced, the valves had stretched so you might as well rebuild that. All back together and working better than ever. Not one penny was wasted.
I then lost 3rd gear so the box is currently being refurbed.
It had really cost me next to nothing for 6-7 years (£4-600 pa maybe), the above cost a fair bit but hopefully all will be well for a long time now
Then the slave cylinder went, that meant the chassis was exposed and could be worked on, the clutch was pretty worn and was replaced, the valves had stretched so you might as well rebuild that. All back together and working better than ever. Not one penny was wasted.
I then lost 3rd gear so the box is currently being refurbed.
It had really cost me next to nothing for 6-7 years (£4-600 pa maybe), the above cost a fair bit but hopefully all will be well for a long time now
On their own, the outriggers aren't too bad, it's the "Well, while we have body off..." 
My outriggers were on the way out, so while the body was off, I thought I might as well go the whole hog on the chassis before dropping the body back on.
New bushes, brake lines, fuel pump, air con, ceramic coatings, blah, blah...
...and while the engine is out...
You get the picture!!
M
My outriggers were on the way out, so while the body was off, I thought I might as well go the whole hog on the chassis before dropping the body back on.
New bushes, brake lines, fuel pump, air con, ceramic coatings, blah, blah...
...and while the engine is out...
You get the picture!!
M
Dave_M said:
I've had mine several years and not really spent anything other than service costs.
Then the slave cylinder went, that meant the chassis was exposed and could be worked on, the clutch was pretty worn and was replaced, the valves had stretched so you might as well rebuild that. All back together and working better than ever. Not one penny was wasted.
I then lost 3rd gear so the box is currently being refurbed.
It had really cost me next to nothing for 6-7 years (£4-600 pa maybe), the above cost a fair bit but hopefully all will be well for a long time now
How do you achieve such low running costs? Have you never replaced brakes/water pipes/alternator/battery/exhaust/air con compressor/radiator/shocks/tyres etc? Do you not have it serviced each year? Oil, plugs, leads, tappets, coolant etc.... Am not doubting you, just dont understand. £400 - 600 in one year is a challenge let alone over 6 - 7 years. Would expect the average if doing it yourself to be nearer £2K even if you were 'lucky'. Then the slave cylinder went, that meant the chassis was exposed and could be worked on, the clutch was pretty worn and was replaced, the valves had stretched so you might as well rebuild that. All back together and working better than ever. Not one penny was wasted.
I then lost 3rd gear so the box is currently being refurbed.
It had really cost me next to nothing for 6-7 years (£4-600 pa maybe), the above cost a fair bit but hopefully all will be well for a long time now
Gazzab said:
Dave_M said:
I've had mine several years and not really spent anything other than service costs.
Then the slave cylinder went, that meant the chassis was exposed and could be worked on, the clutch was pretty worn and was replaced, the valves had stretched so you might as well rebuild that. All back together and working better than ever. Not one penny was wasted.
I then lost 3rd gear so the box is currently being refurbed.
It had really cost me next to nothing for 6-7 years (£4-600 pa maybe), the above cost a fair bit but hopefully all will be well for a long time now
How do you achieve such low running costs? Have you never replaced brakes/water pipes/alternator/battery/exhaust/air con compressor/radiator/shocks/tyres etc? Do you not have it serviced each year? Oil, plugs, leads, tappets, coolant etc.... Am not doubting you, just dont understand. £400 - 600 in one year is a challenge let alone over 6 - 7 years. Would expect the average if doing it yourself to be nearer £2K even if you were 'lucky'. Then the slave cylinder went, that meant the chassis was exposed and could be worked on, the clutch was pretty worn and was replaced, the valves had stretched so you might as well rebuild that. All back together and working better than ever. Not one penny was wasted.
I then lost 3rd gear so the box is currently being refurbed.
It had really cost me next to nothing for 6-7 years (£4-600 pa maybe), the above cost a fair bit but hopefully all will be well for a long time now
M
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