Business and Law Student looking for some help!
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Hi guys, I am an avid reader of all aspects of the forum, but til now not posted too regularly.
I completed a Business and Law Degree in 2012 and naively (like many) had believed that would suffice in getting me into a career path. Well a year and a half later I quit my job, because I hated it, it wasn't a career option for me, and I needed time to look for work.
I'm now looking for work in the city, or south of the city as I'm based in Kent.
I'm passionate about sales, I've bought and sold cars since 16, as well as stock, and other minor ventures. My primary interests are in the financial sector.
If there is anyone kind enough to offer any help, I'd greatly appreciate it and would love an opportunity to work hard and be proud of my career.
Marc
I completed a Business and Law Degree in 2012 and naively (like many) had believed that would suffice in getting me into a career path. Well a year and a half later I quit my job, because I hated it, it wasn't a career option for me, and I needed time to look for work.
I'm now looking for work in the city, or south of the city as I'm based in Kent.
I'm passionate about sales, I've bought and sold cars since 16, as well as stock, and other minor ventures. My primary interests are in the financial sector.
If there is anyone kind enough to offer any help, I'd greatly appreciate it and would love an opportunity to work hard and be proud of my career.
Marc
I was in a very similar position with only a slightly different degree and think I live pretty close too - where did you graduate from - what grade?
I was lucky in the sense that I got my current role 2 years ago (after working for 1 year after uni) and will hopefully be moving onto another, better (analyst) role shortly so it does happen, just takes some work...
Keep at the applications and request feedback where appropriate - tailor your CV to each job application - 1 done right is better than 20 stabs in the dark with a generic template CV - I was lucky as I got the first job I applied for but my experience (worked throughout Uni as a manager, set up a new business (employed not my own) for a year after and prizes for entrepreneurship at uni etc.) helped alongside my 2:1 (Reading) and extra curricular stuff.
From my brother shortly being in the same position he has been networking at the golf club and has built up so many contacts he will have no problem when he comes out (although is likely to turn pro and play to see where it takes him) - it's all about who you know...I had the benefit here as my current director's (interviewed me) son goes to my old school but that's luck of the draw.
If you got a 2:1 have you considered the usual 'Big 4' grad schemes as these have worked well for friends, with some even going into a number of other smaller London based practices - Audit is awful though!
A friend that got a 2:2 was turned down from the Big 4 for this reason (after a good internship etc.) then started as a temp doing basic finance jobs/accountancy in London for about 3 months. From there he got a basic accounts admin position and progressed - now making good money at JLR (had to re-locate).
What I'm trying to do with these examples is say that there are so many ways to do things, but make sure you build contacts, seek feedback to build upon after each interview, spend time on each application and thoroughly research each job and tailor your application to it. If lacking experience/life skills do some internships/temp work to show that you can hold down a job but also learn things that you can transfer directly to any potential role - if you make a good impression as a temp they will often try to keep you (happened to a few other friends).
Sorry for the long post but all worthwhile I think in the sense that its horses for courses with different things working for some and not others.
Any Q's ask on the topic or PM me and I'll try to help as much as I can....If I leave here shortly there may be a requirement for more staff on just a short contract (Liquidation).
I was lucky in the sense that I got my current role 2 years ago (after working for 1 year after uni) and will hopefully be moving onto another, better (analyst) role shortly so it does happen, just takes some work...
Keep at the applications and request feedback where appropriate - tailor your CV to each job application - 1 done right is better than 20 stabs in the dark with a generic template CV - I was lucky as I got the first job I applied for but my experience (worked throughout Uni as a manager, set up a new business (employed not my own) for a year after and prizes for entrepreneurship at uni etc.) helped alongside my 2:1 (Reading) and extra curricular stuff.
From my brother shortly being in the same position he has been networking at the golf club and has built up so many contacts he will have no problem when he comes out (although is likely to turn pro and play to see where it takes him) - it's all about who you know...I had the benefit here as my current director's (interviewed me) son goes to my old school but that's luck of the draw.
If you got a 2:1 have you considered the usual 'Big 4' grad schemes as these have worked well for friends, with some even going into a number of other smaller London based practices - Audit is awful though!
A friend that got a 2:2 was turned down from the Big 4 for this reason (after a good internship etc.) then started as a temp doing basic finance jobs/accountancy in London for about 3 months. From there he got a basic accounts admin position and progressed - now making good money at JLR (had to re-locate).
What I'm trying to do with these examples is say that there are so many ways to do things, but make sure you build contacts, seek feedback to build upon after each interview, spend time on each application and thoroughly research each job and tailor your application to it. If lacking experience/life skills do some internships/temp work to show that you can hold down a job but also learn things that you can transfer directly to any potential role - if you make a good impression as a temp they will often try to keep you (happened to a few other friends).
Sorry for the long post but all worthwhile I think in the sense that its horses for courses with different things working for some and not others.
Any Q's ask on the topic or PM me and I'll try to help as much as I can....If I leave here shortly there may be a requirement for more staff on just a short contract (Liquidation).
kiethton said:
From my brother shortly being in the same position he has been networking at the golf club and has built up so many contacts he will have no problem when he comes out (although is likely to turn pro and play to see where it takes him) - it's all about who you know...
Sorry op for unrelevent reply.My dad left school at 16 and just played golf all day.
Turns out he wasnt good enough to become a pro golfer. He got a job caddying on the womens tour. Now he caddys on the pga tour in america.
He travels all of the usa and some other places too.
Thank you for the reply, I have just applied for 20 positions with Ernst and Young and have not been successful. My Degree is a 2.1, whith firsts in all my Law, and I received a good grade in entrepreneurship.
My issue is, I'm a little hesitant now to apply, as being knocked back is quite miserable. Weirdest thing is, I look at my friends who have been gifted jobs by family or friends and know I'd work harder or be better. It really is who you know :-(
My issue is, I'm a little hesitant now to apply, as being knocked back is quite miserable. Weirdest thing is, I look at my friends who have been gifted jobs by family or friends and know I'd work harder or be better. It really is who you know :-(
Tenacity and guile are traits that are welcomed in your preferred sector. To demonstrate these you need to be driven and always looking for an opportunity. Knock backs can be used as a barometer to how you cope; give up or be spurred on.
If you're of the latter persuasion: get your CV checked out; get networking; keep trying; never give up; but have a plan B. Good luck!
If you're of the latter persuasion: get your CV checked out; get networking; keep trying; never give up; but have a plan B. Good luck!
rog007 said:
Tenacity and guile are traits that are welcomed in your preferred sector. To demonstrate these you need to be driven and always looking for an opportunity. Knock backs can be used as a barometer to how you cope; give up or be spurred on.
If you're of the latter persuasion: get your CV checked out; get networking; keep trying; never give up; but have a plan B. Good luck!
Exactly this, keep at it its all a numbers game.If you're of the latter persuasion: get your CV checked out; get networking; keep trying; never give up; but have a plan B. Good luck!
If I saw an opportunity i liked (second job after grad - got luck before) i found that 30% of applications got me a call from a recruiter meeting/chat. From there every application was put forward and I got a company interview 50% of the time and a second 50% of the time.
Keep at it, if you have comments - 'not enough experience' take a low level temp job in the industry for 3-6 months and try again - you will build a far better understanding of the market from those around you, demonstrate deermination and also show employers that you are happy to work in the meantime.
(sorry for the delayed reply)
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