Clutch master cylinder help
Clutch master cylinder help
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buba

Original Poster:

192 posts

270 months

Thursday 24th October 2013
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I need to change the clutch master cylinder does anyone have any advice or pics that may help smile

Thanks

Steve.

Vee8ight

734 posts

156 months

Thursday 24th October 2013
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You'll need an extra pair of hands to hold the bolts while you undo the nuts, prepare for some head in the footwell action, but in the grand scheme of Cerbera repairs, it's quite an easy job.

jammy_basturd

29,778 posts

229 months

Thursday 24th October 2013
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Next time I do it, I'll be changing the solid line that bolts to the bulkhead for a braided flexible hose. Mainly because, with the solid line it's damn hard to get the fixing to line up with the port on the master cylinder and thus very easy to cross-thread the master cylinder.

Oh, and when putting the master cylinder back in, have a nut welded on to the side of the bolt head. Stops the bolt turning when doing them up.

jamieduff1981

8,092 posts

157 months

Friday 25th October 2013
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I agree with both of those suggestions. It's extremely straightforward to do in principle, but fiddly in practise.

You'll want fairly long extensions to get to the 2 nuts in the footwell to clear the pedals. Someone needs to hold a spanner on the bolt heads under the master cylinder. The upper bolt is simple. You can't see the lower one and must feel for it under the master cylinder. It requires dexterity - this is where a nut welded on to the side of the bolt head would help - it would prevent the bolt from turning making it a simple case of screwing the nut on from the footwell as a one-person job.

buba

Original Poster:

192 posts

270 months

Friday 25th October 2013
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Thanks for info guys ended up bending a spanner to get in, even managed to undo everything on my own but need an extra hand going back.

ackbullchang

270 posts

227 months

Friday 25th October 2013
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How the heck did you bend a spanner in that plane?
a) Are you the Incredible Hulk, and
b) How the heck didn't it shear?

Would honestly like to know, because I need some swan necks!

billy no brakes

2,675 posts

282 months

Friday 25th October 2013
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Looks like a lot of heat had need applied and maybe bent with a vice and a big tube

buba

Original Poster:

192 posts

270 months

Friday 25th October 2013
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I held it in a vice then added plenty of heat until red hot and then whacked it with a club hammer, took 3 attempts for the angle.

Took me all afternoon yesterday to get the old cylinder out on my own, and the new one back in,in 20mins with the help of my old man in the engine bay. All bled with AP racing dot 4, another job off the list..


camel_landy

5,239 posts

200 months

Friday 25th October 2013
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jammy_basturd said:
Next time I do it, I'll be changing the solid line that bolts to the bulkhead for a braided flexible hose.
Consider that idea nicked! hehe

M

ukkid35

6,359 posts

190 months

Sunday 19th July 2020
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Which would be best, a half moon spanner, or an S spanner?




billybradshaw

352 posts

165 months

Sunday 19th July 2020
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I used a half moon. The angle wasn’t right though so I ended up using a blow torch and a persuader.

CerbWill

700 posts

135 months

Sunday 19th July 2020
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Clutch issues Paul? I think either might do. Or you could use a screwdriver to jam the lower bolt head when removing and tap the new cylinder for M10 and put the bolts in from the footwell.

pmessling

2,310 posts

220 months

Sunday 19th July 2020
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I tapped the master makes life so much easier, can do it on your own.

WIL35

541 posts

227 months

Monday 20th July 2020
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Not sure if this makes sense; I used a socket extension (3/8 drive), about the length of the master cylinder, with a cable tie around the end that allowed me to feed the extension down the gap at the end of the cylinder, then pull the socket end (using the end of the cable tie) of the extension up and push the socket onto the bolt. I then wedged the wrench with rags around the master cylinder access hole and was able to undo the nuts in the footwell and remove the cylinder. Refitting was the reverse smile

Mr Cerbera

5,144 posts

247 months

Monday 20th July 2020
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Good Grief, Clive, if there were Oscars awarded for mechanical genius, that would deserve the top honours.

I just used a 13mm scratchchin Caliper Spanner....

WIL35

541 posts

227 months

Monday 20th July 2020
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I couldn't wait and had to use what was in my toolbag!

mrniceguy351

158 posts

70 months

Monday 20th July 2020
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A while back I saw a picture where somebody had cut an access hole above the master cylinder and then covered it with a fancy anodised aluminium panel. Has anybody else done that, and is it a good idea?

Stunned Monkey

354 posts

226 months

Tuesday 21st July 2020
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Best advice I saw was to tap the holes in the master cylinder out to M10 and use capscrews to replace it. That way you can just undo the bolts from the pedal box in future.

Also the union on the hard line can easily round off if using a regular spanner. And it's a half inch fitting if memory serves which makes it doubly likely if you only have metric spanners. Well worth investing in a proper 1/2" pipe spanner. Pic off ebay.


ukkid35

6,359 posts

190 months

Tuesday 21st July 2020
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Looks like it should work


ukkid35

6,359 posts

190 months

Monday 2nd November 2020
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Tricky but it did just work, needed a patient assistant's help though

The gotcha was that although the pipe connection was 7/16" UNF as needed, the rod thread was not M8

I've ordered a 5/16" UNF clevis clotter pin 8mm, and hope that will fit

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/153902822513