Should I or should I not?
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Petrol Only

Original Poster:

1,611 posts

206 months

Friday 25th October 2013
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My partner has had a phone call from a police officer. Asking me to come to the police station however it's 200 miles away.

Person hit our car on a roundabout. She is accusing me of shouting at her and swearing etc... Apparently after exchanging details she stopped with some coppers further down the road and they said she was in no state to drive.

Of course this is all bullst and lies...

Incident was nearly two months ago.

What do I do?



kiethton

14,668 posts

211 months

Friday 25th October 2013
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It was a real copper and not them trying to have a joke at your expense?

I'd personally call them and ask them to come to me should they wish to discuss it further siting distance, work pressures and timings etc, I doubt they will bother for something so trivial though

Some PH'ers will also likely recommend only speaking after you have spoken to a lawyer so not to incriminate yourself - I'm in no position to comment though

AndyNetwork

1,849 posts

225 months

Friday 25th October 2013
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I was about to suggest that you ask them to come and see you, rather than you going to them.

They are getting paid for it, you are not.

Also, if it is so important to speak with you, and they are not prepapred to come and see you, they can arrange for the local force to make the necessary enquiries.

turboteeth

354 posts

193 months

Friday 25th October 2013
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Did you not know it is illegal to upset a lady (EU:1168P subsection B), even if they do crash in to you?

Carnage

889 posts

263 months

Friday 25th October 2013
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AndyNetwork said:
I was about to suggest that you ask them to come and see you, rather than you going to them.

They are getting paid for it, you are not.

Also, if it is so important to speak with you, and they are not prepapred to come and see you, they can arrange for the local force to make the necessary enquiries.
Or... they might ask the local force to arrest the OP and then convey him to their nick. Depends on the nature of the allegations, but a factor to be considered.

Jasandjules

72,683 posts

260 months

Friday 25th October 2013
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Petrol Only said:
What do I do?
Did you report her as driving dangerously?

I am guessing her insurance have just paid up...

creampuff

6,511 posts

174 months

Friday 25th October 2013
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No evidence. Say nothing.

I definitely would not go on a 400 mile trip to potentially incriminate yourself.

Unless she puts her foot in it there is no evidence. Being in no fit state to drive is not evidence of anything. Many people aren't in a fit state to drive after crashing into something.

Say nothing.

Why has it taken 2 months?

Say nothing.

Bigends

6,196 posts

159 months

Friday 25th October 2013
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Police will contact you if they want to speak to you. If they do, theyll get the local force to deal unless its a serious job they they'll come down themselves. Forget it until someones in touch - the onus isnt on you to get in touch

streaky

19,311 posts

280 months

Friday 25th October 2013
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Did the officers arrest her for being unfit to drive?

Thought not.

Streaky

Petrol Only

Original Poster:

1,611 posts

206 months

Friday 25th October 2013
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So when the officer calls again. When he asks me to make a statement. What do I say? Literally no comment over and over like the movies?

TVR1

5,489 posts

256 months

Saturday 26th October 2013
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streaky said:
Did the officers arrest her for being unfit to drive?

Thought not.

Streaky
Women are always unfit to drive. Should've arrested her on the spot.

It's the Hormones, you see.



Mk3Spitfire

2,921 posts

159 months

Saturday 26th October 2013
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Petrol Only said:
So when the officer calls again. When he asks me to make a statement. What do I say? Literally no comment over and over like the movies?
If I was you, if/when they call again, ask if it would be possible, to attend your local police station instead due to the distance/problems getting back to the original force. The outstanding advice to "say nothing" (yawn) may well end you up in the poop. I would be more inclined to say that you will be happy to assist them with their inquiries, but you would struggle to make the trip back to their force area. If it is that important they will arrange for you to be seen at your local station or maybe even get local officers to come to your house. (BY ALL MEANS HAVE A LEGAL REPRESENTATIVE TO STOP YOURSELF INCRIMINATING YOURSELF OF MURDER BY MISTAKE)

Unfortunately if your friend you had the crash with is making some kind of complaint (most likely public order) then chances are you will HAVE to be spoken to at some point even if it is just to negate the allegation. I know, that in my force certainly, once a complaint is made, it HAS to be "investigated" to some extent, no matter how petty/time consuming it may seem.

Mk3Spitfire

2,921 posts

159 months

Saturday 26th October 2013
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Re-reading your OP, are you thinking you need to answer to the shouting and swearing, or are you just being asked to provide a statement re the poor driving?
If it is just the statement then you don't need to go to the home force, you can provide a statement through your local force/station and they can forward it up, no bother.

98elise

32,872 posts

192 months

Saturday 26th October 2013
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Petrol Only said:
So when the officer calls again. When he asks me to make a statement. What do I say? Literally no comment over and over like the movies?
Pretty much. My brother was accused of leaving the scene of an accident (which never occurred). He got a solicitor and was advised to give a written statement of the facts then say no more.

Mk3Spitfire

2,921 posts

159 months

Saturday 26th October 2013
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98elise said:
Petrol Only said:
So when the officer calls again. When he asks me to make a statement. What do I say? Literally no comment over and over like the movies?
Pretty much. My brother was accused of leaving the scene of an accident (which never occurred). He got a solicitor and was advised to give a written statement of the facts then say no more.
So instead of saying "no comment over and over like the movies" your brother actually provided a full account of the incident in a formal signed written letter? Not exactly the same as saying no comment over and over.

73mark

774 posts

158 months

Saturday 26th October 2013
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Petrol Only said:
So when the officer calls again. When he asks me to make a statement. What do I say? Literally no comment over and over like the movies?
I'd go the your local police station get them to phone the police officer dealing with the case.And make a short statement stick to that statement.KEEP IT SIMPLE

Mk3Spitfire

2,921 posts

159 months

Saturday 26th October 2013
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73mark said:
Petrol Only said:
So when the officer calls again. When he asks me to make a statement. What do I say? Literally no comment over and over like the movies?
I'd go the your local police station get them to phone the police officer dealing with the case.And make a short statement stick to that statement.KEEP IT SIMPLE
Agreed

catman

2,504 posts

206 months

Saturday 26th October 2013
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If it was just a phone call, are you sure that it really was the Police? In any case, if it was just a request, then you're not compelled to go.

Tim

Ray Luxury-Yacht

8,918 posts

247 months

Saturday 26th October 2013
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This has come up before on here.

General consencus was to politely decline, and then it is up to the BiB to have enough evidence to actually request your attendance in a rather more forceful manner, so to speak.

Seems that, given a potential situation where there is not enough evidence to charge, they maybe hope that a wide-eyed, innocent and honest public will go in and hang themselves by singing like a canary.


In a previous life, this happened to me. I had Bib knock my door when I wasn't in, and when I got home I had a message to please attend the station, and 'it's nothing to worry about, we just need to speak to him...'

As I was a lot younger and a lot more naive, I attended. However, naive I may have been, stupid I was not, Turned out that another member of the driving public had made a complaint about me following a driving altercation (that didn't involve any stopping or getting out of cars...basically a bit of handbags).

I realised that there was a potential to 'hang myself' here, so once I was being interviewed, I just denied everything. As it happens, I couldn't actually remember much about the situation anyway, it was so fleeting. So I just stuck to the line that 'sorry, I have no idea what you're talking about' to every single question. I just stated that I had no recollection at all of the incident that the Policeman was referring to.

Result was I just walked and heard no more.






Mk3Spitfire

2,921 posts

159 months

Saturday 26th October 2013
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Ray Luxury-Yacht said:
This has come up before on here.

General consencus was to politely decline, and then it is up to the BiB to have enough evidence to actually request your attendance in a rather more forceful manner, so to speak.

Seems that, given a potential situation where there is not enough evidence to charge, they maybe hope that a wide-eyed, innocent and honest public will go in and hang themselves by singing like a canary.


In a previous life, this happened to me. I had Bib knock my door when I wasn't in, and when I got home I had a message to please attend the station, and 'it's nothing to worry about, we just need to speak to him...'

As I was a lot younger and a lot more naive, I attended. However, naive I may have been, stupid I was not, Turned out that another member of the driving public had made a complaint about me following a driving altercation (that didn't involve any stopping or getting out of cars...basically a bit of handbags).

I realised that there was a potential to 'hang myself' here, so once I was being interviewed, I just denied everything. As it happens, I couldn't actually remember much about the situation anyway, it was so fleeting. So I just stuck to the line that 'sorry, I have no idea what you're talking about' to every single question. I just stated that I had no recollection at all of the incident that the Policeman was referring to.

Result was I just walked and heard no more.
Urgh.... back to the old "the police are out to get you at every opportunity, say nothing, etc etc etc".