Muscle pain in side. Pulled or torn?
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Hi all, just a quick question to try and work out how long I'm likely to be sidelined for.
I was doing some pad work at kickboxing last night and injured myself executing a move. Very simply, I was attempting a jumping round kick off the wall and as I came in to land the blow I felt a pop/tear just below and to the right of my ribcage.
The pain was immediate, but subsided after a few minutes. I tried to stretch it out and had a long hot bath, but that seems to have had no effect. This morning, any kind of twisting motion, coughing, bending, laughing or reaching across with my right hand results in quite intense pain. I'd say 6/10 on the pain scale, it makes me double over.
Could this just be a very bad pulled muscle or more likely a tear? I'd rather not spend weeks out of kickboxing, but I fear it could take that long.
If it is a tear, what sort of timescales are we looking at before I'm back to semi-normal?
Cheers.
I was doing some pad work at kickboxing last night and injured myself executing a move. Very simply, I was attempting a jumping round kick off the wall and as I came in to land the blow I felt a pop/tear just below and to the right of my ribcage.
The pain was immediate, but subsided after a few minutes. I tried to stretch it out and had a long hot bath, but that seems to have had no effect. This morning, any kind of twisting motion, coughing, bending, laughing or reaching across with my right hand results in quite intense pain. I'd say 6/10 on the pain scale, it makes me double over.
Could this just be a very bad pulled muscle or more likely a tear? I'd rather not spend weeks out of kickboxing, but I fear it could take that long.
If it is a tear, what sort of timescales are we looking at before I'm back to semi-normal?
Cheers.
Impossible to say without an examination but if it's on your outside as it were then it won't be a rib sprain and probably a strain if either your lat dorsi or (probably more likely) your intercostals hence it's painful on deep breathing in and, I'm guessing) less painful on deep expiration.
Depending on severity, how you rest etc probably around a couple of weeks
By the way, hot bath one of the worst things you could have done. Get on with the ice packs son!
Depending on severity, how you rest etc probably around a couple of weeks
By the way, hot bath one of the worst things you could have done. Get on with the ice packs son!
reggie82 said:
E65Ross said:
By the way, hot bath one of the worst things you could have done. Get on with the ice packs son!
I put my back out squatting today and am just about to get into a warm bath. Is that a bad idea?why do you ice an ankle sprain, for example
Ross (Chiropractor)
E65Ross said:
Hot water = increased blood flow = increased inflammation. There's a time and a place for heat, and it ain't on an acute injury.
why do you ice an ankle sprain, for example
Ross (Chiropractor)
This bloke seems to disagree with your train of thought...why do you ice an ankle sprain, for example
Ross (Chiropractor)
http://www.mobilitywod.com/2012/08/people-weve-got...
interesting article that (well, only skimmed the abstract) and not seen the video yet which I'll look at when I get more time.
I notice it mentions about lymphatic permeability increasing with ice application over prolonged periods, yet it doesn't state a time? Would be interesting to see their thoughts on contrast therapy.
I notice it mentions about lymphatic permeability increasing with ice application over prolonged periods, yet it doesn't state a time? Would be interesting to see their thoughts on contrast therapy.
E65Ross said:
interesting article that (well, only skimmed the abstract) and not seen the video yet which I'll look at when I get more time.
I notice it mentions about lymphatic permeability increasing with ice application over prolonged periods, yet it doesn't state a time? Would be interesting to see their thoughts on contrast therapy.
No idea, you're getting too technical for me now Ross. All I know is as above, their method (heat and movement) works wonders for me when I'm injured. I notice it mentions about lymphatic permeability increasing with ice application over prolonged periods, yet it doesn't state a time? Would be interesting to see their thoughts on contrast therapy.
E65Ross said:
Hot water = increased blood flow = increased inflammation. There's a time and a place for heat, and it ain't on an acute injury.
why do you ice an ankle sprain, for example
Ross (Chiropractor)
Cheers Ross!why do you ice an ankle sprain, for example
Ross (Chiropractor)
I did a bit of research online too and the amount of conflicting advice is unbelievable!
Indeed, compression is certainly something which has been researched quite well recently and there is a lot of positive evidence for it.
Upon skimming the article I must say I feel it's very poorly written, I'll explain more as to why when I get chance, maybe tomorrow if not Friday.
Either way, I'm still recommending it toy patients.
Heat is good at reducing pain in a lot of cases.... Why?
Loads of nerves in the body, all carry different bits of information. Just so happens the nerves which carry information on pain are the same which carry information on heat. Putting something warm/hot on overrides pain signals to the brain, reducing pain. Does encourage inflammation though.
Have a read in spinal tracts (in this case I'm referring to spinothalamic), pretty interesting stuff - takes me back to the days of neurophysiology lectures!
Upon skimming the article I must say I feel it's very poorly written, I'll explain more as to why when I get chance, maybe tomorrow if not Friday.
Either way, I'm still recommending it toy patients.
Heat is good at reducing pain in a lot of cases.... Why?
Loads of nerves in the body, all carry different bits of information. Just so happens the nerves which carry information on pain are the same which carry information on heat. Putting something warm/hot on overrides pain signals to the brain, reducing pain. Does encourage inflammation though.
Have a read in spinal tracts (in this case I'm referring to spinothalamic), pretty interesting stuff - takes me back to the days of neurophysiology lectures!
Cheers for the feedback guys.
Lots of pain yesterday, laughing in the office resulted in me doubling up on the floor. It seems to have subsided a little bit today, I still get pain but it is more towards intense/dull rather than a stabbing pain.
Hopefully a couple of weeks will see it sorted.
Lots of pain yesterday, laughing in the office resulted in me doubling up on the floor. It seems to have subsided a little bit today, I still get pain but it is more towards intense/dull rather than a stabbing pain.
Hopefully a couple of weeks will see it sorted.
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