Are TVRs of any good crash-wise?
Are TVRs of any good crash-wise?
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latyshev

Original Poster:

199 posts

263 months

Thursday 4th November 2004
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I dont think it has been posted before...

In particular Tuscan?

Apache

39,731 posts

313 months

Thursday 4th November 2004
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yeah they're great for crashing in

tvrbob

11,197 posts

284 months

Thursday 4th November 2004
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These cars are built for driving, people who buy them accept that they are not as good at protecting the occupants as say a Porka or Merc of similar performance. It's a choice and we choose TVR. Make your choice but if crash protection is high on your list then maybe TVR is not for you.

Uriel

3,244 posts

280 months

Thursday 4th November 2004
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From the side at least I think the wedges are best (designed with the US market in mind). They have steel bars giving some protection. I understand that Chim, Griff, Tuscan (possibly Cerb?) have the fibreglass panels and that's it.

There was discussion a while back and I'm sure someone said that tuscans should have some side protection, but IIRC a picture was posted of a Tuscan door with the door card removed and there was nothing it it.

judas

6,234 posts

288 months

Thursday 4th November 2004
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From what I understand, front or rear impacts are handled well, side impacts less so. I know someone who ended up taking their Tuscan backwards through a hedge at about 60mph, down a ten foot drop and then rolled, end-over-end, three times before stopping upside down. They walked away with cuts and bruises... But to counter this, there are other stories of people not so lucky, such as the poor chap from Bolton who died recently when he crashed his Tuscan.

Podie

46,649 posts

304 months

Thursday 4th November 2004
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I worked in a crash lab for a while… and to be honest you don't want to be in ANY car in an accident… regardless on NCAP ratings or whatever...

trooper1212

9,457 posts

281 months

Thursday 4th November 2004
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Uriel said:
From the side at least I think the wedges are best (designed with the US market in mind). They have steel bars giving some protection. I understand that Chim, Griff, Tuscan (possibly Cerb?) have the fibreglass panels and that's it.


Cerbs have a full rollcage and side protection bars.

loose cannon

6,057 posts

270 months

Thursday 4th November 2004
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have a look on wrecked exotics.com

sacha

509 posts

283 months

Thursday 4th November 2004
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Uriel said:

There was discussion a while back and I'm sure someone said that tuscans should have some side protection, but IIRC a picture was posted of a Tuscan door with the door card removed and there was nothing it it.


Tuscans, t350's tamoras all have steel bars within there doors. and these are part of the structure of the car.

matthewbinns

18,506 posts

276 months

Thursday 4th November 2004
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Podie said:
I worked in a crash lab for a while… and to be honest you don't want to be in ANY car in an accident… regardless on NCAP ratings or whatever...


are you recommeding a retro fit ejector seat?

N17 TVR

2,937 posts

300 months

Thursday 4th November 2004
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Podie said:
I worked in a crash lab for a while…



....they didnt shave your head, strip you, paint you yellow and black and then strap you in did they ?

>> Edited by N17 TVR on Thursday 4th November 10:42

RichB

56,208 posts

313 months

Thursday 4th November 2004
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latyshev said:
I dont think it has been posted before... In particular Tuscan?
Tuscans? Yep great, seen the crash at Castle Coombe, Brands, Silverston... Rich...

Podie

46,649 posts

304 months

Thursday 4th November 2004
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N17 TVR said:

Podie said:
I worked in a crash lab for a while…




....they didnt shave your head, strip you, paint you yellow and black and then strap you in did they ?

>> Edited by N17 TVR on Thursday 4th November 10:42


Only a few times...

judas

6,234 posts

288 months

Thursday 4th November 2004
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matthewbinns said:
are you recommeding a retro fit ejector seat?

Hmmm, my brother works for a company that make ejector seats...

Tripps

5,814 posts

301 months

Thursday 4th November 2004
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N17 TVR said:
Podie said:
I worked in a crash lab for a while…
....they didnt shave your head, strip you, paint you yellow and black and then strap you in did they ?
I'd always assumed you'd have to pay for S&M services like that, but as a perk of the job...

Where's the application form I'm changing my career path!

Tripps

5,814 posts

301 months

Thursday 4th November 2004
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On a serious note, a fellow in our local region has quite a big accident in his Cerbera a few months back, 60MPH+.

The fire service used jaws of life to cut the car to get him out but he was OK all considering. His pelvis was damaged, but otherwise the injuries were relatively minor and he lived to tell the story.

DustyC

12,822 posts

283 months

Thursday 4th November 2004
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I read somewhere that a Tuscan was crash tested and it stood up so well to the frontal test that they could use the same car again for the side impact test.

Im searching for the article but can't find it. Some one help!

DustyC

12,822 posts

283 months

Thursday 4th November 2004
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Just found one story on it on PH

www.pistonheads.com/tvr/index.asp?storyId=8303

some pics of crashed TVRs
www.wreckedexotics.com/tvr/index.shtml

>> Edited by DustyC on Thursday 4th November 12:40

rep900

1,447 posts

263 months

Thursday 4th November 2004
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To me TVR's are the next step up from fast bikes, you get the buzz and excitement of the bike but with 4 wheels. But the trade off from normal sports cars is the safety factor.
If you want safe sports cars buy Porsche or Mercedes,
but lose most of the buzz factor.
With a TVR as with a fast bike you need to respect what you're driving and have full concentration at all times.
Can't belive how many threads..(just had couple pints or booted it in wet when spun) would you do this with an R.1.. NO.

bruciebabe

1,126 posts

270 months

Thursday 4th November 2004
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The wedges are built to US crash test standards so are pretty good. No other TVR is.
They are all OK head on because the fibreglass absorbs a lot of energy as it shatters, there is a long crush length and the tuning fork of the chassis helps keep the engine out of the passenger compartment.
Side on the Chimera and the Griff are a disaster and quite a few people have died this way. The door is just a layer of fibreglass. When the Chelsea Chariot's front bumper comes through the door you are trapped against the big central tunnel and become the meat in the sandwich. This is why I sold my gorgeous Griff.
TVR did some research on crash structures with a university (Manchester?) and incorporated the findings in cars from the Cerb onwards. The Cerb has a full roll over cage connected with the chassis and with 2 overlapping beams in the doors. This is the main reason I swapped my Griff for a Cerb. There have been quite a few momentous Cerb crashes where the occupants have got out relatively unscathed. This is useful as it is not unknown for new owners to crash on the way home from collecting their car!
Of course a TVR has primary safety in that it has big brakes and lots of grip. They doen't have traction control, ABS or airbags. They should have. Ferrari and Porsche have them.