New US destroyer - one weird looking ship !
New US destroyer - one weird looking ship !
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MartG

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22,755 posts

233 months

Thursday 31st October 2013
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Quite apart from its captains name ( http://news.yahoo.com/captain-kirk-navy-destroyer-... ) this is one weird looking ship !


amancalledrob

1,248 posts

163 months

Thursday 31st October 2013
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Wow. I guess the slanting sides and general lack of any vertical surfaces is designed to reduce its radar signature. Looks cool.

supertouring

2,228 posts

262 months

Thursday 31st October 2013
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It needs renaming to "Enterprise" now, surely?

mrmr96

13,736 posts

233 months

Thursday 31st October 2013
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amancalledrob said:
Wow. I guess the slanting sides and general lack of any vertical surfaces is designed to reduce its radar signature. Looks cool.
I think it's the flatness of the sides rather than the angle.

Imagine each side was a mirror and you were stood a long way away. There would only be one exact position from which you'd be able to see your own reflection in the surface. And if you're doing 500mph it would only be fleeting.

Compare that with a mirror ball (disco ball). You'll be able to spot a little bit of yourself in at least one of the mirrors almost all the time.

Radar works by sending out a signal and looking for the reflection. Which is why stealth craft have flat surfaces and few curves, so that most of the time the radar source does not get a reflection back.

tank slapper

7,949 posts

312 months

Thursday 31st October 2013
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The picture above is quite deceptive - that ship is huge for a destroyer. It's as long as HMS Belfast (which is a cruiser), 20 feet wider and 4000 tons heavier.


TTwiggy

11,882 posts

233 months

Thursday 31st October 2013
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200 years ago they'd have christened that the 'carpenter's mistake'

Simpo Two

92,670 posts

294 months

Thursday 31st October 2013
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Full circle!


TorqueVR

1,969 posts

228 months

Thursday 31st October 2013
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It's pretty obvious what's gone on here. The big bit at the top is the keel and they'be built it upside down!

amancalledrob

1,248 posts

163 months

Thursday 31st October 2013
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mrmr96 said:
amancalledrob said:
Wow. I guess the slanting sides and general lack of any vertical surfaces is designed to reduce its radar signature. Looks cool.
I think it's the flatness of the sides rather than the angle.

Imagine each side was a mirror and you were stood a long way away. There would only be one exact position from which you'd be able to see your own reflection in the surface. And if you're doing 500mph it would only be fleeting.

Compare that with a mirror ball (disco ball). You'll be able to spot a little bit of yourself in at least one of the mirrors almost all the time.

Radar works by sending out a signal and looking for the reflection. Which is why stealth craft have flat surfaces and few curves, so that most of the time the radar source does not get a reflection back.
That makes sense. Thanks for the explanation. I thought the angles were all about helping the outgoing 'ping' bounce back in directions other than the one from which it came. The mirrorball is a good analogy though

Mr Sparkle

1,935 posts

199 months

Thursday 31st October 2013
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I would have thought having a bow shaped like that would make it crap in heavy seas.

Jimbo.

4,213 posts

218 months

Thursday 31st October 2013
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It's a ship Jim, but not as we know it!

FourWheelDrift

92,237 posts

313 months

Thursday 31st October 2013
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tank slapper said:
The picture above is quite deceptive - that ship is huge for a destroyer. It's as long as HMS Belfast (which is a cruiser), 20 feet wider and 4000 tons heavier.

I've seen that somewhere before............


probedb

824 posts

248 months

Thursday 31st October 2013
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There's quite a lot of info on Wikipedia... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zumwalt_class_destroy...smile

tank slapper

7,949 posts

312 months

Thursday 31st October 2013
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Mr Sparkle said:
I would have thought having a bow shaped like that would make it crap in heavy seas.
It's a wave piercing design. The idea is that it goes through the waves rather than over them, with less pitching and a more comfortable ride.

telecat

8,528 posts

270 months

Friday 1st November 2013
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Weird class name as well "Zumwalt". They appear to be building only three as the USN reckons they would rather have the "older" Arleigh Burke class ships in a numbers not quality shift. If they do work I expect a smaller less pricey version to appear.

FourWheelDrift

92,237 posts

313 months

Friday 1st November 2013
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telecat said:
Weird class name as well "Zumwalt".
http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elmo_Zumwalt

BryanUsrey

224 posts

189 months

Friday 1st November 2013
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I would say I'm proud to be American looking at that ship, but considering its cost, hard not to imagine that money could have gone elsewhere. Not like the current destroyer crop is out of date by any means.

saaby93

32,038 posts

207 months

Friday 1st November 2013
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Completely invisible to radar? Back to binoculars smile

FourWheelDrift

92,237 posts

313 months

Friday 1st November 2013
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saaby93 said:
Completely invisible to radar? Back to binoculars smile
Back to dazzle camouflage then as well smile



And the have started it again on the USS Mel Gibson - http://news.usni.org/2013/03/01/camouflaged-ships-...

Simpo Two

92,670 posts

294 months

Friday 1st November 2013
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Wouldn't they do better to paint trees on it and make it look like an island? Nobody's going to be fooled by a giant pointy floating zebra...