Short Term Ferrari Insurance
Short Term Ferrari Insurance
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topless_mx5

Original Poster:

2,763 posts

248 months

Friday 1st November 2013
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I've been trying to find someone who can provide 1-2 day insurance and not had any luck. I'm wondering if anyone here has previously had any success.

I need very short term insurance on a 360 so that I can carry out a test drive on a 360 I'm looking at buying privately. My own insurance does cover my to drive other vehicles, but I really don't fancy doing so on a 3rd party only basis. I've tried asking them for short term cover but they can't unless I've owned a powerful vehicle for 12 months rolleyes

Is there any easy way to do this without asking the buyer to add me to his policy? Age is 25 if that makes any difference.

jeremyc

28,224 posts

314 months

Friday 1st November 2013
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You've tried Googling 'day insurance', right?


anonymous-user

84 months

Friday 1st November 2013
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I'd be honest(ish!), find a reputable independent dealer and say you are interested in a 360 and want a real world test drive, rather than just driving around the streets making a loud noise ask if someone will come with you and you can try parking it etc. Dependent on how cheap the private sale car is, you might get a good deal from the dealer?

good luck, I wish I had a 360 when I was 25!...

topless_mx5

Original Poster:

2,763 posts

248 months

Friday 1st November 2013
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jeremyc said:
You've tried Googling 'day insurance', right?
Yes I've tried a number of sites including confused and have tried calling a few insurers too, who have told me my only option is to either get the owner to add me to the policy.

I've got my heart set on a 360 and it's not a question of whether its the car for me, but I just wanted to drive it make sure everything is ok. I'll be getting a PPI done before I buy anyway, so perhaps I may just have to buy it without test driving before hand if the PPI report comes back as all clear.

moreflaps

746 posts

185 months

Friday 1st November 2013
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topless_mx5 said:
jeremyc said:
You've tried Googling 'day insurance', right?
Yes I've tried a number of sites including confused and have tried calling a few insurers too, who have told me my only option is to either get the owner to add me to the policy.

I've got my heart set on a 360 and it's not a question of whether its the car for me, but I just wanted to drive it make sure everything is ok. I'll be getting a PPI done before I buy anyway, so perhaps I may just have to buy it without test driving before hand if the PPI report comes back as all clear.
Get someone else to test drive and give you an inspection report. A Ferrari dealer should be able to help... Otherwise just take out full insurance and cancel inside 14 days if you don't buy it?

Cheers

tbc

3,017 posts

205 months

Friday 1st November 2013
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i remember looking up insurance for a few supercar for 7 days as i'd won a prize with a very well known car club

the prize didn't include insurance and it wasn't as much as i thought

but the excess was £4-5k

DanielSan

20,040 posts

197 months

Friday 1st November 2013
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Coming soon - 'I borrowed a 360 and the owner lied to me about his insurance covering test drives'

hehe

LondonSW7

101 posts

206 months

Friday 1st November 2013
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moreflaps said:
Get someone else to test drive and give you an inspection report.
This. Get a PPI from a reputable source (I can advise if needed) and they'll tell you if it drives as it should. I bought my 360 privately without test driving it myself - I had the PPI mechanic do it for me.

Drek

609 posts

195 months

Friday 1st November 2013
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I don't think one day insurance is offered by any insurance company anymore although they used to apparently. I spent a good deal of time googling this very thing about six months ago and couldn't find anything anywhere.

onlynik

4,248 posts

223 months

Friday 1st November 2013
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Drek said:
I don't think one day insurance is offered by any insurance company anymore although they used to apparently. I spent a good deal of time googling this very thing about six months ago and couldn't find anything anywhere.
Then you didn't google the right search terms. The link above works fine.

anonymous-user

84 months

Friday 1st November 2013
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why not test drive as Passenger and get a vehicle inspection, that should cover all bases.

topless_mx5

Original Poster:

2,763 posts

248 months

Friday 1st November 2013
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LondonSW7 said:
This. Get a PPI from a reputable source (I can advise if needed) and they'll tell you if it drives as it should. I bought my 360 privately without test driving it myself - I had the PPI mechanic do it for me.
I think I may do something similar. Feel free to drop me a message if you know anyone around the West Midlands area (although if your username is anything to go by I'm guessing you aren't from the area).

I know an independent specialist local to me who can check the car out and do the test drive, it seems that is my best option. The question now is if I make arrangements to get the car to him so that he can get it on the ramp, or whether I get a PPI done at the sellers location.

How did you go about the above, and how thorough was the PPI? Do they generally do a compression test as part of the inspection? And finally, any comments on your 360 ownership experience?

LondonSW7

101 posts

206 months

Friday 1st November 2013
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topless_mx5 said:
I think I may do something similar. Feel free to drop me a message if you know anyone around the West Midlands area (although if your username is anything to go by I'm guessing you aren't from the area).

I know an independent specialist local to me who can check the car out and do the test drive, it seems that is my best option. The question now is if I make arrangements to get the car to him so that he can get it on the ramp, or whether I get a PPI done at the sellers location.

How did you go about the above, and how thorough was the PPI? Do they generally do a compression test as part of the inspection? And finally, any comments on your 360 ownership experience?
Yes my PPI was thorough and it picked up on things I would not have noticed (eg broken door check-straps - cheap parts to replace but a pain to get to), and it did include a compression test. People close to you that I've personally dealt with and that I wholeheartedly recommend are Tim at Walersport ( http://www.walkersport.co.uk/ ) and Eddie at Total Performance ( http://www.totalperformancecars.com/ ) - I'd suggest calling them up and discussing options for a PPI. Any reasonable seller should have no problem taking the car to a reasonably close (and reasonably reputable) mechanic for a PPI at the (prospective) buyer's expense - if anything, it shows that the buyer is serious about the car.

I posted a few comments on my 360 experience here http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a... a while back - copied below for the record:

LondonSW7 said:
I've had a 360 for 2.5 years and it's absolutely brilliant. It's the first truly modern Ferrari. The interior is leather-rich and understated, miles better than the plasticky 1980s style of the 355, and not as aggressive, videogame- (or fighter jet-) style as the 458 or, to some extent, the 430. I love the sinuous shape and I prefer it to the 430's, but that's subjective.

The running costs are reasonable - around £700 annual service, cambelts every three years £1200 (this includes the annual service). Quite a few reputable independents around, which also help keep the main dealer prices honest. Full set of tyres £1,000. Brake discs are from Brembo, £80 a corner. Pads are ~£100(Brembo/Pagid/etc)-£250(OEM) an axle, depending on which brand you prefer. A clutch change will set you back £1,500-£2,000 depending on which extra bits need changing when they open it up.

Mechanically (engine/gearbox) extremely reliable, never had a problem or heard of anyone having a problem. The pump of the F1 system can wear out, but it's the same part as the Alfa Romeo Selespeed, can be bought for £250 (don't let main dealers sell you the £1,500 Ferrari one). Ball joints are essentially a consumable item and need replacing every 20k miles (can't remember - less than £1k for all I think?)

The electrics are fine, nothing ever played up and my car lives outside 365 days a year (and it's a spider!). A know weak spot is the battery sealed inside the alarm siren - it dies after 7/8 years, leaks and corrodes the alarm unit. A new unit is £250, but if you catch it early and you can hold a soldering iron it's fixable with £10 of components from Maplin.

How is it to live with? It's a thoroughly usable car - it's my only car and I use it for everything from going to the supermarket to weekends in Wales to long motorway journeys to Europe to crossing London in heavy traffic. It's wider than most cars but you get used to it. The boot is surprisingly large (as it's quite deep). It definitely likes to be used regularly, although I've left it parked for up to three weeks with no ill effects (I have a brand new battery though). People's reaction has been overwhelmingly good wherever I went - it always attracts lots of attention, and mine's not even red and still has the standard exhaust! (which is plenty loud for me - especially when it screams past 8,000 rpm...). Someone hear described it as a larger and faster Elise - it's a good comparison, as the car is very nimble, it loves twisted B-roads.

If you're mechanically minded check out this website www.aldousvoice.com for heaps of maintenance information (and much more). Also there's a recent thread in the Ferrari section by a PHer (Bebs) who just reached 100,000 miles in his 360.

MitchT

17,155 posts

239 months

Friday 1st November 2013
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The Spruce goose said:
why not test drive as Passenger and get a vehicle inspection, that should cover all bases.
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This, but also book a driving experience with a 360 so you can make sure that this particular model feels like a car you'd be happy owning.

anonymous-user

84 months

Saturday 2nd November 2013
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Sky insurance have a division that do this I think. Called dayinsure or similar.

They were certainly still marketing it when I used them a few weeks ago.

clarkmagpie

3,709 posts

225 months

Saturday 2nd November 2013
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I know you asked about short term cover...
Why don't you just transfer your policy then transfer it back after the drive?

Drek

609 posts

195 months

Saturday 2nd November 2013
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onlynik said:
Drek said:
I don't think one day insurance is offered by any insurance company anymore although they used to apparently. I spent a good deal of time googling this very thing about six months ago and couldn't find anything anywhere.
Then you didn't google the right search terms. The link above works fine.
Sure, because I confused one day car insurance with randomised control trials so no wonder I couldn't find it, stupid me. Of course I used the right search terms; maybe, just maybe, insurance companies have started offering it again?

ryandoc

276 posts

185 months

Saturday 2nd November 2013
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I tried everything for 10 days cover in July and got nowhere. In the end I ended up going as named driver on my mates policy which cost £70 for the remaining 10 months of his policy, strangely enough it would have been about £120 to have just taken a months cover which is the shortest they'd have done.

GC8

19,910 posts

220 months

Saturday 2nd November 2013
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The days of £10 a day 'Dayinsure' fully comp, and £20 a day for high risk cars, has certainly gone.

Heartworm

1,938 posts

191 months

Saturday 2nd November 2013
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Drek said:
Sure, because I confused one day car insurance with randomised control trials so no wonder I couldn't find it, stupid me. Of course I used the right search terms; maybe, just maybe, insurance companies have started offering it again?
I used it bang on 6 months ago to move a car from one end of the country to the other, it's always been available, I use day Insurance every 6 months.