Dr Bez Slates the Vanquish
Dr Bez Slates the Vanquish
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Neil1300R

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208 months

Sunday 3rd November 2013
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Review in The Sunday Times today of the Vanquish Volante. The review not helped by Dr Bez talking to the journalist before he drove it:-

THERE are few ways more likely to set alarm bells ringing in the head of a motoring journalist than for someone who’s driven a car to warn that it’s not as good as a cheaper model. Of course we shouldn’t be swayed by such opinions, but when that person is the chief executive of the company making the car, it’s hard not to listen.

“Don’t misunderstand me,” says Ulrich Bez, chief executive of Aston Martin, over dinner in Palm Springs, California. “The Vanquish Volante is a great car. But if I wanted to drive around here, I would take a DB9 Volante. I wouldn’t need the extra expense.” The convertible Aston Martin Vanquish Volante is the company’s new flagship and costs £199,995 — more than £50,000 above the price of the DB9 Volante, or enough to put a new, entry-level Porsche Cayenne outside your house for when it rains.

whoami

13,200 posts

270 months

Sunday 3rd November 2013
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I read that too.

The review was less than glowing.

MollyGTi

2,373 posts

184 months

Sunday 3rd November 2013
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Neil1300R said:
Review in The Sunday Times today of the Vanquish Volante. The review not helped by Dr Bez talking to the journalist before he drove it:-

THERE are few ways more likely to set alarm bells ringing in the head of a motoring journalist than for someone who’s driven a car to warn that it’s not as good as a cheaper model. Of course we shouldn’t be swayed by such opinions, but when that person is the chief executive of the company making the car, it’s hard not to listen.

“Don’t misunderstand me,” says Ulrich Bez, chief executive of Aston Martin, over dinner in Palm Springs, California. “The Vanquish Volante is a great car. But if I wanted to drive around here, I would take a DB9 Volante. I wouldn’t need the extra expense.” The convertible Aston Martin Vanquish Volante is the company’s new flagship and costs £199,995 — more than £50,000 above the price of the DB9 Volante, or enough to put a new, entry-level Porsche Cayenne outside your house for when it rains.
banghead

How many times have I told him not to have casual chats with journo's after a couple of drinks banghead

whoami

13,200 posts

270 months

Sunday 3rd November 2013
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MollyGTi said:
banghead

How many times have I told him not to have casual chats with journo's after a couple of drinks banghead
The guy actually drove the car though.

mikey k

13,074 posts

246 months

Sunday 3rd November 2013
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I reckon Bez will have a "Ratner" moment at some point before he leaves rolleyes
I watched him interviewed by Jay Leno regarding the Vanquish Volante and CC100
Didn't come across well at all frown

Jockman

18,414 posts

190 months

Sunday 3rd November 2013
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More of a Rat-ner moment, Mikey, and he's already had a few of them yes

Neil1300R

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Sunday 3rd November 2013
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If I had someone that was press trained and came out with stuff like that, they would be fired.
Lets tell everyone to buy the cheaper one.
What a knob

Ikebaddog

318 posts

165 months

Sunday 3rd November 2013
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Neil1300R said:
If I had someone that was press trained and came out with stuff like that, they would be fired.
Lets tell everyone to buy the cheaper one.
What a knob
Maybe the cheaper one is better?.......

Neil1300R

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Sunday 3rd November 2013
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Ikebaddog said:
Maybe the cheaper one is better?.......
As the expensive one shares lots of components and chassis architecture with the cheaper one, guess which one has the higher profit margin!

Ikebaddog

318 posts

165 months

Sunday 3rd November 2013
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Neil1300R said:
Ikebaddog said:
Maybe the cheaper one is better?.......
As the expensive one shares lots of components and chassis architecture with the cheaper one, guess which one has the higher profit margin!
I dont know...but better profit margin, or higher price, doesn't always mean its a better product.

Jockman

18,414 posts

190 months

Sunday 3rd November 2013
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Ikebaddog said:
Maybe the cheaper one is better?.......
Which one is better is immaterial as it is all very much subjective. In this instance I too would rather have the DB9.

But I'm not the CEO of a company trying to maximise returns for my cash-strapped company.

His duty of care is not to himself but to his company and its stakeholders.

Appearing to malign the flagship model is hardly an astute move.

Ikebaddog

318 posts

165 months

Sunday 3rd November 2013
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Jockman said:
Ikebaddog said:
Maybe the cheaper one is better?.......
Which one is better is immaterial as it is all very much subjective. In this instance I too would rather have the DB9.

But I'm not the CEO of a company trying to maximise returns for my cash-strapped company.

His duty of care is not to himself but to his company and its stakeholders.

Appearing to malign the flagship model is hardly an astute move.
So he should lie then?, if he thinks the cheaper product is better, so be it.

Laser Sag

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273 months

Sunday 3rd November 2013
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Ikebaddog said:
So he should lie then?, if he thinks the cheaper product is better, so be it.
Surely as CEO he should ensure that the flagship product is superior.

Ikebaddog

318 posts

165 months

Sunday 3rd November 2013
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Laser Sag said:
Ikebaddog said:
So he should lie then?, if he thinks the cheaper product is better, so be it.
Surely as CEO he should ensure that the flagship product is superior.
Yeah, but if ain't, then it ain't!

Jockman

18,414 posts

190 months

Sunday 3rd November 2013
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Ikebaddog said:
So he should lie then?, if he thinks the cheaper product is better, so be it.
Who said anything about lying ?? He has complimented the model in question but then qualified that compliment.

He is trained in dealing with the media. He knows how to circumvent thorny questions.

On this occasion he has failed miserably.

Ikebaddog

318 posts

165 months

Sunday 3rd November 2013
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Jockman said:
Ikebaddog said:
So he should lie then?, if he thinks the cheaper product is better, so be it.
Who said anything about lying ?? He has complimented the model in question but then qualified that compliment.

He is trained in dealing with the media. He knows how to circumvent thorny questions.

On this occasion he has failed miserably.
Rubbish......he just stated that he wouldn't need the extra expense of the Vanquish, where is the thorny question? Some Aston Owners will put a lot of value in the cost of the car, rather than how good it is, we all know the Vantage is THE best car that Aston make, but a lot of you out there cant admit it. Long Live Bez!

Jockman

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Sunday 3rd November 2013
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Phew....for a moment I thought you were actually making a serious point hehe

Ikebaddog

318 posts

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Sunday 3rd November 2013
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Jockman said:
Phew....for a moment I thought you were actually making a serious point hehe
Ditto

AMDBSNick

7,219 posts

192 months

Sunday 3rd November 2013
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Ikebaddog said:
Some Aston Owners will put a lot of value in the cost of the car, rather than how good it is, we all know the Vantage is THE cylinder challenged car that Aston make, but I just can't bring myself to admit it. Long Live Bez!
EFA

George29

14,714 posts

194 months

Sunday 3rd November 2013
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I don't get why he's slating it? Doesn't seem like that to me.

I too would take the DB9 over the Vanquish... not because of price or anything, purely because of the looks/interior. Seems he's just saying his personal preference.