FREE SHOWS FOR KIT CAR DRIVERS?
Discussion
Lets consider the reduction of revenue for show organisers when they allow visitors free access to the entertainment and facilities that are provided. Reduced income results in less cash to promote shows and provide entertainment that could attract more visitors.
But we need owners clubs and private kit cars to sell the life style.
It may be that a compromise could be looked at by show organisers whereby each club is given say up to 10 car spaces with free entry for the drivers and passengers. This would leave the individual clubs to assemble the best their members have to offer in a proper display. Not just a few good or bad examples with tents and tin tops in between as is often the case. To encourage decent displays the organisers could offer prizes for the best club display. Some could theme their displays, others would only have one member, all would be welcome.
The approach I mention is what happens at Classic at the NEC, the show is made up in the main of free space for car clubs and they all put on a great display.
At "car fest" this year MEV owners took a pitch, they were allowed 7 of the best, but had to pay £450 plus VAT for the privilidge of adding to the show by displaying their cars.
So free or fee, that is the question?
Does anyone know of any other proper show (car or not) that allows free access?
It appears that kit car shows may have made a rod for their own backs many years ago. Newark started off as a club gathering, free for kit car owners.
Could the mould be broken and a better show put on with money from ALL visitors?
Would a 50% discount to kit drivers be accepted especially if they were able to use a car test facility as part of the deal?
But we need owners clubs and private kit cars to sell the life style.
It may be that a compromise could be looked at by show organisers whereby each club is given say up to 10 car spaces with free entry for the drivers and passengers. This would leave the individual clubs to assemble the best their members have to offer in a proper display. Not just a few good or bad examples with tents and tin tops in between as is often the case. To encourage decent displays the organisers could offer prizes for the best club display. Some could theme their displays, others would only have one member, all would be welcome.
The approach I mention is what happens at Classic at the NEC, the show is made up in the main of free space for car clubs and they all put on a great display.
At "car fest" this year MEV owners took a pitch, they were allowed 7 of the best, but had to pay £450 plus VAT for the privilidge of adding to the show by displaying their cars.
So free or fee, that is the question?
Does anyone know of any other proper show (car or not) that allows free access?
It appears that kit car shows may have made a rod for their own backs many years ago. Newark started off as a club gathering, free for kit car owners.
Could the mould be broken and a better show put on with money from ALL visitors?
Would a 50% discount to kit drivers be accepted especially if they were able to use a car test facility as part of the deal?
Edited by Stuart Mills on Monday 4th November 10:27
I think this thread is a continuation of the one on the Exeter show?
As I posted there I think free entry for kit car drivers is essential - simply because without owners/builders the show wouldn't exist! -without kit cars on display most of these shows would have no 'draw'!
I know this is (obviously) an extreme example but you wouldn't expect Sebastian Vettel et al to have to actually pay an entrance fee to race in Formula One!
Attending a show isn't free in that owners drive miles/camp/food in order to (being realistic) provide 'free' advertising/promotion for the industry/show. If you had to pay to attend you might well go in your 50mpg Citroen rather than your 15mpg Cobra.
I suggested that kit car shows should be attached to something else. eg hold an autojumble with a kit car show attached, organisers would obviously benefit from (paying) auto jumble attendees/traders. And just maybe some of the attendees would 'have a look' at the kit cars - a potential new market for manufacturers.
To repeat part of my Exeter Show post
"Sell the show as an autojumble with a kit car show on the side.! I think a larger autojumble section would help to attract classic car fans rather than just kit car fans. Classic car fans, attending an autojumble might just be tempted by a kit - which might open up the notion of a 'kit car' to a wider audience?
Obviously offer FREE entry for kit car drivers, 1/2 price for passengers (eg Stoneleigh)to ensure kit car owners bring their cars.
Offer FREE* space for bona fide kit car manufacturers to ensure as large as possible selection, so that the show is a huge showcase for the industry
Offer FREE camping for bona fide manufacturers (to limit their costs to fuel & staff)
Charge non kit car attendees a reasonable(?) charge, particularly heavily discounted family tickets
Hopefully the organisers would be able to attract professional (non kit car) autojumble stands AND consequently car enthusiasts/autojumlists to increase their revenue/profits."
As I posted there I think free entry for kit car drivers is essential - simply because without owners/builders the show wouldn't exist! -without kit cars on display most of these shows would have no 'draw'!
I know this is (obviously) an extreme example but you wouldn't expect Sebastian Vettel et al to have to actually pay an entrance fee to race in Formula One!
Attending a show isn't free in that owners drive miles/camp/food in order to (being realistic) provide 'free' advertising/promotion for the industry/show. If you had to pay to attend you might well go in your 50mpg Citroen rather than your 15mpg Cobra.
I suggested that kit car shows should be attached to something else. eg hold an autojumble with a kit car show attached, organisers would obviously benefit from (paying) auto jumble attendees/traders. And just maybe some of the attendees would 'have a look' at the kit cars - a potential new market for manufacturers.
To repeat part of my Exeter Show post
"Sell the show as an autojumble with a kit car show on the side.! I think a larger autojumble section would help to attract classic car fans rather than just kit car fans. Classic car fans, attending an autojumble might just be tempted by a kit - which might open up the notion of a 'kit car' to a wider audience?
Obviously offer FREE entry for kit car drivers, 1/2 price for passengers (eg Stoneleigh)to ensure kit car owners bring their cars.
Offer FREE* space for bona fide kit car manufacturers to ensure as large as possible selection, so that the show is a huge showcase for the industry
Offer FREE camping for bona fide manufacturers (to limit their costs to fuel & staff)
Charge non kit car attendees a reasonable(?) charge, particularly heavily discounted family tickets
Hopefully the organisers would be able to attract professional (non kit car) autojumble stands AND consequently car enthusiasts/autojumlists to increase their revenue/profits."
- Offer free attendance to manufacturers PROVIDING they advertise the event themselves (think of an advert in the kit car magazines saying "See us at .... Stand (x)" It's not rocket science!
Edited by alfaspecial on Monday 4th November 10:59
Stuart Mills said:
Not sure about the economics at all here, you suggest free enry for kit car drivers, half price for passengers, free for bonfide manufacturers and free camping, all we need is a sugar Daddy to pay for the show!
The AUTOJUMBLE- both traders and punters.... pay entry fees, which go to the organisers. The economics being an autojumble should be a viable event in it's own right, benefiting from the draw of 'free' entertainment (in the form of a kit car show) to attract more punters than might actually attend a stand alone autojumble. (If you ever go to an autojumble you often see bored other halves/kids being dragged around by dad as he searches for that elusive part!) A kit car show would provide unwilling autojumblists (families) with entertainment.I see it as a symbiotic relationship in that a kit car show provides entertainment and a draw for autojumble fans and the autojumble provides funds to subsidise the show.
Any show HAS to have free entry for the Kit Car Driver, if the free entry includes 1 passenger then That's a bonus, if it doesn't have free entry for the drivers then KC drivers ain't gonna bother attending those shows IMO.
Organisers have to entice KC drivers to attend their show so FREE entry plus FREE entry into RWYB 1/4 miles organised at the show would be an added incentive to attend.
IMO a Drifting display is Effin CRAP it's all rather pointless, so any show which has that as a major highlight I'm certainly gonna pass on attending. The Westfield Type Stoneleigh effort is OK, for the kids I suppose.
The old Classic 'Action' day type shows were OK - UNTIL the circuits got GREEDY and started overcharging for track use.
I live in S Wales all shows are at least 100+ miles each way for me, Problem is those 100+miles are on BORING 'A' roads or Motorways, Not ideal for a 7, If there's no incentives then I ain't gonna bother attending, I'd rather use 200+miles worth of fuel Blatting around the plentiful 'B' roads we have between S + N Wales, a stagnant/Boring Park in the field for a greedy Show organiser to line his pocket doesn't do it for me.
Plusses for me at KC shows would be a LARGE autojumble with sensible prices, AND quality [Glastonbury] type food stalls also with sensible prices, If they wanted to add Evening entertainment with quality live music etc So much the better, but please no crappy Covers bands.
Organisers have to entice KC drivers to attend their show so FREE entry plus FREE entry into RWYB 1/4 miles organised at the show would be an added incentive to attend.
IMO a Drifting display is Effin CRAP it's all rather pointless, so any show which has that as a major highlight I'm certainly gonna pass on attending. The Westfield Type Stoneleigh effort is OK, for the kids I suppose.
The old Classic 'Action' day type shows were OK - UNTIL the circuits got GREEDY and started overcharging for track use.
I live in S Wales all shows are at least 100+ miles each way for me, Problem is those 100+miles are on BORING 'A' roads or Motorways, Not ideal for a 7, If there's no incentives then I ain't gonna bother attending, I'd rather use 200+miles worth of fuel Blatting around the plentiful 'B' roads we have between S + N Wales, a stagnant/Boring Park in the field for a greedy Show organiser to line his pocket doesn't do it for me.
Plusses for me at KC shows would be a LARGE autojumble with sensible prices, AND quality [Glastonbury] type food stalls also with sensible prices, If they wanted to add Evening entertainment with quality live music etc So much the better, but please no crappy Covers bands.
I am not sure if the balance is right here, what do you offer the show other than another kit car in a field of similar cars? But if they are to entice you to come along you must be allowed free admission and cheap food and drink, allowed to use the drag strip and I assume camp, use the toilets, hot showers etc. Oh and good quality evening entertainment, not covers bands, maybe the Stones could do a cheap gig, I will give Mick a call!
I am not sure that this would line the pockets of the organiser, more like rip the shirt off his back!
I am not sure that this would line the pockets of the organiser, more like rip the shirt off his back!
alfaspecial said:
I know this is (obviously) an extreme example but you wouldn't expect Sebastian Vettel et al to have to actually pay an entrance fee to race in Formula One!
Um...they do actually. Well, the teams which employ them do, half a million dollars just to get on the grid...While it's great to have long lists of what 'we'd like to see' such as free entry for KC's, large autojumbles with 'sensible prices' quality food with 'sensible prices' (can't remember what the Glastonbury entrance fee was last time I was there, but from memory I sure it wasn't free, even though I was singing at the top of my voice) As for evening entertainment that's a whole different ballgame 'for free!!'
No commercial organiser in his right mind is going to bother with KC shows unless there's money to be made.
No commercial organiser in his right mind is going to bother with KC shows unless there's money to be made.
Stuart Mills
Lets use Stoneleigh as an example.
How many paying people attend Stoneleigh?
As it currently stands My wife being a passenger in my 7 has to pay £10/day to attend with me so £20 since we always arrive on Saturday - probably half of the KC's have passengers so 1500 passengers/day for 2 days = £30K in organisers pocket and this is before any paying punters come through the turnstiles, Oh and the KC passengers don't get given the show brochure FOC like paying punters would
Then we have to pay camping/Rank villge room cost, or Hotel costs to attend their show and the privelige of parking up in the field with not a lot else going on over the 2 days to keep us entertained.
Oh I almost forgot How many paying punters come in -I've heard 30000/day mentioned, of course this depends on weather so If we're generous & average it out at 20000/day the organiser is getting £400K from entry fees, plus the £30K from paying KC passengers. and you reckon they ain't lining their pockets at KC drivers expense.
What do they spend out of that:-
£200 for a 'TOP' crappy covers band, and a coupla grand for 'Security', the site fee which is a coupla grand - that's it nuthin else.
On top of this they get the Manufacturers stall fees. and Hotdog & burger vans fees, and Ice cream van fees, and trade sellers stall fees - WOW after all of this you're feeling sorry for them - sorry I don't agree.
The simple figures above would suggest you're wrong.
Lets use Stoneleigh as an example.
How many paying people attend Stoneleigh?
As it currently stands My wife being a passenger in my 7 has to pay £10/day to attend with me so £20 since we always arrive on Saturday - probably half of the KC's have passengers so 1500 passengers/day for 2 days = £30K in organisers pocket and this is before any paying punters come through the turnstiles, Oh and the KC passengers don't get given the show brochure FOC like paying punters would
Then we have to pay camping/Rank villge room cost, or Hotel costs to attend their show and the privelige of parking up in the field with not a lot else going on over the 2 days to keep us entertained.Oh I almost forgot How many paying punters come in -I've heard 30000/day mentioned, of course this depends on weather so If we're generous & average it out at 20000/day the organiser is getting £400K from entry fees, plus the £30K from paying KC passengers. and you reckon they ain't lining their pockets at KC drivers expense.
What do they spend out of that:-
£200 for a 'TOP' crappy covers band, and a coupla grand for 'Security', the site fee which is a coupla grand - that's it nuthin else.
On top of this they get the Manufacturers stall fees. and Hotdog & burger vans fees, and Ice cream van fees, and trade sellers stall fees - WOW after all of this you're feeling sorry for them - sorry I don't agree.
The simple figures above would suggest you're wrong.
Edited by S47 on Monday 4th November 14:33
S47 said:
Stuart Mills
Lets use Stoneleigh as an example.
How many paying people attend Stoneleigh?
As it currently stands My wife being a passenger in my 7 has to pay £10/day to attend with me so £20 since we always arrive on Saturday - probably half of the KC's have passengers so 1500 passengers/day for 2 days = £30K in organisers pocket and this is before any paying punters come through the turnstiles, Oh and the KC passengers don't get given the show brochure FOC like paying punters would Then we have to pay camping/Rank villge room cost, or Hotel costs to attend their show and the privelige of parking up in the field with not a lot else going on over the 2 days to keep us entertained.
Oh I almost forgot How many paying punters come in -I've heard 30000/day mentioned, of course this depends on weather so If we're generous & average it out at 20000/day the organiser is getting £400K from entry fees, plus the £30K from paying KC passengers. and you reckon they ain't lining their pockets at KC drivers expense.
What do they spend out of that:-
£200 for a 'TOP' crappy covers band, and a coupla grand for 'Security', the site fee which is a coupla grand - that's it nuthin else.
On top of this they get the Manufacturers stall fees. and Hotdog & burger vans fees, and Ice cream van fees, and trade sellers stall fees - WOW after all of this you're feeling sorry for them - sorry I don't agree.
The simple figures above would suggest you're wrong.
Hmmm. Very ramped/dreamed up income figures and bargain basement outgoings figures. Lets use Stoneleigh as an example.
How many paying people attend Stoneleigh?
As it currently stands My wife being a passenger in my 7 has to pay £10/day to attend with me so £20 since we always arrive on Saturday - probably half of the KC's have passengers so 1500 passengers/day for 2 days = £30K in organisers pocket and this is before any paying punters come through the turnstiles, Oh and the KC passengers don't get given the show brochure FOC like paying punters would
Then we have to pay camping/Rank villge room cost, or Hotel costs to attend their show and the privelige of parking up in the field with not a lot else going on over the 2 days to keep us entertained.Oh I almost forgot How many paying punters come in -I've heard 30000/day mentioned, of course this depends on weather so If we're generous & average it out at 20000/day the organiser is getting £400K from entry fees, plus the £30K from paying KC passengers. and you reckon they ain't lining their pockets at KC drivers expense.
What do they spend out of that:-
£200 for a 'TOP' crappy covers band, and a coupla grand for 'Security', the site fee which is a coupla grand - that's it nuthin else.
On top of this they get the Manufacturers stall fees. and Hotdog & burger vans fees, and Ice cream van fees, and trade sellers stall fees - WOW after all of this you're feeling sorry for them - sorry I don't agree.
The simple figures above would suggest you're wrong.
Edited by S47 on Monday 4th November 14:33
Expect Stoneleigh to cost well into 5 figures to hire for the weekend.
Why don't you give the venue a call and ask just how much it costs to hire for 4-5 days.
I believe that Cookie, Who used to run Exeter would spend over £30K putting on that show in a single building.
Stuart Mills said:
Does anyone know of any other proper show (car or not) that allows free access?
There are actually quite a lot of good shows that are free to displaying vehicles:Edited by Stuart Mills on Monday 4th November 10:27
Thornfalcon Classics http://www.thornfalconclassics.com/Event.aspx
Haynes Rare Breeds http://www.haynesmotormuseum.com/events/2285-9700/...
and even
Goodwood Breakfast Club!!!! http://www.goodwood.co.uk/breakfast-club/breakfast...
Poole Quay For My Car http://www.pooletourism.com/go.php?structureID=pag...
Now the Poole Quay for My Car (Q4MC) is a good (relevant) example. Because I (alfaspecial) was the person who suggested/initiated the Italian Stallions evening 30th August 2013!
I contacted Poole Tourism and asked IF there was the possibility of them adding an Italian vehicles evening to their schedule. They said if I could generate sufficient interest, which I did through this site and others http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=122...
The evening was a great success:
http://www.italianautomotoclub.co.uk/Quay2013.html
and we hope to organise another for 2014.
Now could a Kit Car Q4MC work? Well there are quite a few kit cars that attend the Open Top evenings. Only problem is that Poole Tourism have a fairly full schedule and I doubt there would be an opening for another event. But thats not to say Poole is the only possible location, many seaside towns have classic car etc shows - and a kit car show might just have a USP.
Only thing is, of course, (specifically to the OP) professional companies, such as MEV !!! might not be allowed to display, not being in the spirit of a free seaside show. But I couldn't possibly comment!
Even if my £ figures are out it's quite easy to see that the Stoneleigh organiser is doing very nicely from KC's without offering much in return for our participation. Which is the point we as KC drivers ought to be concentrating on improving.
If you half the number of attendees and 10X his ex's he's still making a six figure profit
Oh and my £200 for a 'Top' cover's band is over double what they'd get here in S Wales my figures are relevant!!
If you half the number of attendees and 10X his ex's he's still making a six figure profit
Oh and my £200 for a 'Top' cover's band is over double what they'd get here in S Wales my figures are relevant!!
I can go back to the 80's when I use to take my Dutton B+ to a farmers field and park with maybe 30 other cars and talk to like minded enthusiasts about cars, facilities would consist of a porter loo and maybe an ice-cream van. Many clubs still do regular run outs during the summer months and never mind you tagging along even if your cars not of the same mark.
As for the big professionally organised shows like Stoneleigh, Newark, Donington etc there run by commercial enterprises, as a kitcar owner, I'm all for getting in free, and yes I do enjoy going round the club stands and looking at the cars, especially when a bonnet or boot is open and I can see how the builder has gone about the build. Yet many kit car owners who turn up at the show ground, park in the field camp the weekend have a barbeque, eating and drinking what they purchased at Tesco's adding nothing to the event. In fact it's a cost to the event organisers in terms amenity use and clear up, plus a lot of the cars aren't very well presented and to some extent give the industry a poor reputation.
So even if we agree that some of the Kit Cars are what attracts some of the paying public to the show. Why not then give all registered clubs a free allowance of say, 12 vehicle tickets per club Including 2 tintop support vehicles so that they may bring along and erect a marquee etc, thus enabling the individual clubs to show off their best. I mean, not meaning to upset anyone, but what am I going gain by seeing 100 Westfield 7's parked 'higgledy-piggledy' on a patch of grass that I won't get from seeing 10 of the best Westfield 7's, well parked and presented with their owners/builders on hand to talk too.
Auto jumbles and parts/tool sales are all good and well but if I'm seriously considering buying some new seats for my kitcar I'm going to have to come in my tintop just to get them home so I'm not going to get in fee anyway.
Fares, fates, car boots, children's rides are all things that can be combined to entice families.
As a petrol head I love the live action events, ok the Westfield experience is getting a bit long in the tooth, Doningtons auto test display is excellent, and taxi rides in kitcars i'm all for, drifiting and 0~60 timing is great but all these action events need space/facilities and INSURANCE which I can ensure everyone can be a minefield as well as being cost prohibitive.
Any commercial enterprise is only going to organise a show if they can make money at it. I for one believe that in the not too distant future kit car owners are in general going to have to pay something if they wish to attend these major shows, but on the other hand organisers had better buck their ideas up and make it a worthwhile experience.
As for the big professionally organised shows like Stoneleigh, Newark, Donington etc there run by commercial enterprises, as a kitcar owner, I'm all for getting in free, and yes I do enjoy going round the club stands and looking at the cars, especially when a bonnet or boot is open and I can see how the builder has gone about the build. Yet many kit car owners who turn up at the show ground, park in the field camp the weekend have a barbeque, eating and drinking what they purchased at Tesco's adding nothing to the event. In fact it's a cost to the event organisers in terms amenity use and clear up, plus a lot of the cars aren't very well presented and to some extent give the industry a poor reputation.
So even if we agree that some of the Kit Cars are what attracts some of the paying public to the show. Why not then give all registered clubs a free allowance of say, 12 vehicle tickets per club Including 2 tintop support vehicles so that they may bring along and erect a marquee etc, thus enabling the individual clubs to show off their best. I mean, not meaning to upset anyone, but what am I going gain by seeing 100 Westfield 7's parked 'higgledy-piggledy' on a patch of grass that I won't get from seeing 10 of the best Westfield 7's, well parked and presented with their owners/builders on hand to talk too.
Auto jumbles and parts/tool sales are all good and well but if I'm seriously considering buying some new seats for my kitcar I'm going to have to come in my tintop just to get them home so I'm not going to get in fee anyway.
Fares, fates, car boots, children's rides are all things that can be combined to entice families.
As a petrol head I love the live action events, ok the Westfield experience is getting a bit long in the tooth, Doningtons auto test display is excellent, and taxi rides in kitcars i'm all for, drifiting and 0~60 timing is great but all these action events need space/facilities and INSURANCE which I can ensure everyone can be a minefield as well as being cost prohibitive.
Any commercial enterprise is only going to organise a show if they can make money at it. I for one believe that in the not too distant future kit car owners are in general going to have to pay something if they wish to attend these major shows, but on the other hand organisers had better buck their ideas up and make it a worthwhile experience.
Edited by Sonic7 on Monday 4th November 15:57
Edited by Sonic7 on Monday 4th November 15:58
S47 said:
Stuart Mills
Lets use Stoneleigh as an example.
How many paying people attend Stoneleigh?
As it currently stands My wife being a passenger in my 7 has to pay £10/day to attend with me so £20 since we always arrive on Saturday - probably half of the KC's have passengers so 1500 passengers/day for 2 days = £30K in organisers pocket and this is before any paying punters come through the turnstiles, Oh and the KC passengers don't get given the show brochure FOC like paying punters would Then we have to pay camping/Rank villge room cost, or Hotel costs to attend their show and the privelige of parking up in the field with not a lot else going on over the 2 days to keep us entertained.
Oh I almost forgot How many paying punters come in -I've heard 30000/day mentioned, of course this depends on weather so If we're generous & average it out at 20000/day the organiser is getting £400K from entry fees, plus the £30K from paying KC passengers. and you reckon they ain't lining their pockets at KC drivers expense.
What do they spend out of that:-
£200 for a 'TOP' crappy covers band, and a coupla grand for 'Security', the site fee which is a coupla grand - that's it nuthin else.
On top of this they get the Manufacturers stall fees. and Hotdog & burger vans fees, and Ice cream van fees, and trade sellers stall fees - WOW after all of this you're feeling sorry for them - sorry I don't agree.
The simple figures above would suggest you're wrong.
I believe there are 2 possibilities here, either you are completely crazy and have no idea of real costs and income or I am in the wrong business.Lets use Stoneleigh as an example.
How many paying people attend Stoneleigh?
As it currently stands My wife being a passenger in my 7 has to pay £10/day to attend with me so £20 since we always arrive on Saturday - probably half of the KC's have passengers so 1500 passengers/day for 2 days = £30K in organisers pocket and this is before any paying punters come through the turnstiles, Oh and the KC passengers don't get given the show brochure FOC like paying punters would
Then we have to pay camping/Rank villge room cost, or Hotel costs to attend their show and the privelige of parking up in the field with not a lot else going on over the 2 days to keep us entertained.Oh I almost forgot How many paying punters come in -I've heard 30000/day mentioned, of course this depends on weather so If we're generous & average it out at 20000/day the organiser is getting £400K from entry fees, plus the £30K from paying KC passengers. and you reckon they ain't lining their pockets at KC drivers expense.
What do they spend out of that:-
£200 for a 'TOP' crappy covers band, and a coupla grand for 'Security', the site fee which is a coupla grand - that's it nuthin else.
On top of this they get the Manufacturers stall fees. and Hotdog & burger vans fees, and Ice cream van fees, and trade sellers stall fees - WOW after all of this you're feeling sorry for them - sorry I don't agree.
The simple figures above would suggest you're wrong.
Edited by S47 on Monday 4th November 14:33
Stoneleigh does not have an attendance issue, they probably do not need to do any more than they already do. My guess is that a total of 10,000 visit out of which 5000 get in for free. You forgot to mention (following figures are guesstimates)site rent at 25k (bank holiday for 4-5 days), insurance at 20k, promotion at 15k, show guide printing £3k, band £1k, DJ £200, rubbish removal £1k, staff £5k, I could go on but I am bored now. These figures could be completely wrong but I can say that it costs 15k to rent Newark for a weekend. Lets see if you can use your magic calculator to make that one stack up. Actually those that do pay to enter or exhibit are subsidising your very very cheap weekend! That does give me a warm feeling though. Those free entrants in kit cars that are genuinely part of the show should perhaps only get in free if they come before 10am and leave after 5pm and have to stop by their cars all day as there maybe be paying punters who have come to see under those bonnets. They are part of the show remember.
Seriously though, I am laughing as I write this BTW, the good news is that we all love the shows, we all want more from them and long way they continue. I am just trying to find improvement posibilities.
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