The problem Sir with part worn tyres is.....
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Okay so at the moment I'm trying to self build a house and didn't really want to spank £500 on new P Zeros for the E65, especially as it's 8 years old now. I found a couple of very decent part worn OEM Pirellis on Fleabay for less than the price of a new one and took them down to my local independent spannery/MOT/tyre place (not a chain) to get them to put them on. The tyres themselves are spot on - got a good 5.5mm all round, no repairs, no cracks, no problem. Chap puts them on and while he's writing out the invoice turns to me and says, 'you know the problem Sir with part worn tyres is that they invalidate your insurance. If you had an accident then they'd not pay out.' I just nodded, paid the bill and left.
Now I am right in thinking this chap is just trying to peddle more new tyres? Surely every used car comes with part worn tyres? How would your insurance company even know? There's nothing in my policy that says I need new tyres. If the tyres are legal, have tread, are OEM fitment and the correct speed rating and load index then Shirley that's sufficient? Plenty of brand new tyres blow out/disintegrate every day looking at the central reservation of any motorway...
Now I am right in thinking this chap is just trying to peddle more new tyres? Surely every used car comes with part worn tyres? How would your insurance company even know? There's nothing in my policy that says I need new tyres. If the tyres are legal, have tread, are OEM fitment and the correct speed rating and load index then Shirley that's sufficient? Plenty of brand new tyres blow out/disintegrate every day looking at the central reservation of any motorway...
Possibly a stupid question but where do these part worn tyres usually come from? Why would they change the tyres if they don't need to? I doubt they come off fleet/company cars as in my experience they are proper strict as to when they change the tyres, normally only when they are down to the limit.
-crookedtail- said:
Possibly a stupid question but where do these part worn tyres usually come from? Why would they change the tyres if they don't need to? I doubt they come off fleet/company cars as in my experience they are proper strict as to when they change the tyres, normally only when they are down to the limit.
Written of cars?I've bought a few part worns over the years from a local guy. He buys entire shipping containers of them from Germany around this time of year. Apparently a lot of people get winters fitted and rather than keep the tyres until summer, just get new ones. Madness. I once paid £40 (fitted) for a pair of Michelin Pilot Sport's with 7mm tread for my 306.
Superliminal said:
I've bought a few part worns over the years from a local guy. He buys entire shipping containers of them from Germany around this time of year. Apparently a lot of people get winters fitted and rather than keep the tyres until summer, just get new ones. Madness. I once paid £40 (fitted) for a pair of Michelin Pilot Sport's with 7mm tread for my 306.
Apparently this. They get containers of them from countries where winters are a legal requirement and folk just junk the summers when changing round. The key with part worns is to find ones with no repair. If you can find some without much wear and no repairs then they're a bit of a bargain. I'd rather go for an OEM Pirelli with a couple of mm wear than a brand new set of Linglongs on a rear drive car.-crookedtail- said:
Possibly a stupid question but where do these part worn tyres usually come from? Why would they change the tyres if they don't need to? I doubt they come off fleet/company cars as in my experience they are proper strict as to when they change the tyres, normally only when they are down to the limit.
I've replaced pairs of tyres a couple of times where one has suffered a carcass failure, but the other has had 3-5mm of tread on it but either I can't get a matching tyre (Falken FK452 after they were discontinued) or a matching tyre would have been extremely pricy (ContiSport 2). I always wondered if the "good" one would make its way onto the part-worn market.Yes, the insurance companies have a register of every tyre and its movements via the EU Tyre Passport system, it is also recorded on a chip inside every tyre that register miles driven, vehicle registration etc.
Actually, I think insurance companies will just check that the vehicle has an MOT, well, they may do and the loss adjuster/inspector type bloke may check if your tyres are bald, even then they would probably still pay out, but at a lower level.
Actually, I think insurance companies will just check that the vehicle has an MOT, well, they may do and the loss adjuster/inspector type bloke may check if your tyres are bald, even then they would probably still pay out, but at a lower level.
-crookedtail- said:
Possibly a stupid question but where do these part worn tyres usually come from? Why would they change the tyres if they don't need to? I doubt they come off fleet/company cars as in my experience they are proper strict as to when they change the tyres, normally only when they are down to the limit.
And probably from stolen vehicles that are broken for spares.
How would they ever know?
To confirm another posters suspicions:
When a member of my family had a minor bump a couple of years ago they had a bald tyre (Which I b
ked them about).
Insurance assessor clearly noticed it, but said nothing, and the repaired car was returned by a driver, complete with the bald tyre still on it.
Never heard anything about it.
To confirm another posters suspicions:
When a member of my family had a minor bump a couple of years ago they had a bald tyre (Which I b
ked them about).Insurance assessor clearly noticed it, but said nothing, and the repaired car was returned by a driver, complete with the bald tyre still on it.
Never heard anything about it.
The tyre companies are really starting to roll out the propaganda this year over them.
There was an article not so long ago on the BBC NI site in association with a local tyre company.
The headline was "43 OUT OF 50 PART WORN TYRES DEFECTIVE" or similar.
What they were careful to do was to mention buried in a paragraph near the bottom, that 41 of these weren't marked part worn on the side walls - this made them illegal to sell.
1 had bulge and another a gash in the sidewall.
There was an article not so long ago on the BBC NI site in association with a local tyre company.
The headline was "43 OUT OF 50 PART WORN TYRES DEFECTIVE" or similar.
What they were careful to do was to mention buried in a paragraph near the bottom, that 41 of these weren't marked part worn on the side walls - this made them illegal to sell.
1 had bulge and another a gash in the sidewall.
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