RE: My Dream Drive: Welsh valleys
RE: My Dream Drive: Welsh valleys
Thursday 7th November 2013

My Dream Drive: Welsh valleys

Get beyond the post-industrial blight and South Wales offers up some fabulous driving roads



Name: Danny Milner
Where: South Wales valleys
Car used: Porsche 911 GT3 (997)

Brightly coloured car helps liven the gloom
Brightly coloured car helps liven the gloom
The route:
"Easily accessible from the M4 corridor, this is a compact route to be enjoyed on its own merits or treated as a stepping-stone to the Brecon Beacons and the Cambrian Hills. Either way, leave the motorway at Sarn Park (junction 36) and follow signs for the A4061. Outside of Nant-y-Moel the fun finally begins. At the top of Bwlch y Clawdd Pass turn left onto the A4107 to Cymer. If you're feeling peckish, take a diversion up to the excellent Skyline cafe in Glyncorrwg, otherwise make a U-turn and head back to the A4061 and follow it to Treorchy. The route finished off by heading north to Hirwaun on the A4061."

Why it's a dream drive:
"Although most of my family are from the region, I've definitely been guilty of some snobbishness towards the South Wales valleys in the past. It's all too easy to fall into the trap of focusing on the post-industrial blight when actually there are some truly breathtaking landscapes and surprisingly rewarding roads. So if you've never explored this part of the world before, you could be in for a shock.

Sheep not impressed by Stuttgart's finest
Sheep not impressed by Stuttgart's finest
"For me, driving these roads usually comes before or after an eternal, life-sucking journey along the M4. I'm either knackered from riding my bike at one of the many excellent mountain bike centres locally, or stressed from the tedious motorway journey to get there. But whichever happens to be the case, this oasis of tarmac always seems to provide the perfect antidote.

"The first taste of what this area can offer comes on the long climb up to Bwlch y Clawdd. At first the road is flanked by conifers, but as the road sweeps left, the trees part to reveal an impressive wall of rock and the first of several amazing, looping hairpins.

"At the summit, turning left takes you toward Cymer on the A4107, over a barren, tussock-clad hilltop; the road hemmed in by banks on either side. Dropping down toward the huge Afan Forest, there's an even more impressive 180 degree parabola followed by a long descent chiselled into the hillside.

If you can take your eyes off road scenery stuns
If you can take your eyes off road scenery stuns
"Retracing your steps back to the junction with the A4061, turn left to Treorchy for more corkscrewing Tarmac descending. Unfortunately, at this point you'll have to endure a bit of urban crawl for a few miles, but it's short-lived and the leg up from Treherbert is tremendously satisfying, with a mix of fast, open bends and long straights. The final run down to Hirwaun offers more of the same, including the de rigueur hairpin bend."

Highlights and lowlights:
"There are four truly memorable corners on this drive. That's not to say it's not a route packed full of challenging undulations, tricky cambers, and sketchy surface changes, but the real jewels in the crown are the broad, sweeping hairpins. Actually, to call them hairpins is to sell them short; while they look like acute switchbacks on the map, in terms of gradient and radius they do a more than passable impressions of the Karussell. And while there's no concrete banking, the black and white Armco can still make you feel like a refugee from a 1950s Grand Prix.

Anyone fancy an ice cream then? No?
Anyone fancy an ice cream then? No?
"The towering cliff walls above Nant-y-Moel make a wonderful natural amphitheatre with acoustics to match. Standing on the hairpin listening to a howling Mezger six reverberate around the valley is almost as good as the act itself.

"Suffice to say, if you're two up it's well worth jumping out and taking turns to blast up the hill a few times to enjoy the aural experience. Otherwise, wind down the windows, turn off the stereo and enjoy the closest thing you'll get to a tunnel run without a roof.

"Cattle grids mark each section of open road and serve as a warning to the presence of woolly hazards, most of which seemed to be grazing on asphalt when we were there. It's also worth watching out for cyclists, kamikaze delivery drivers and South Wales' favourite revenue stream; the camera van."

By far the best plaice to eat in the valleys (sorry)
By far the best plaice to eat in the valleys (sorry)
Sights, stop-offs and diversions:
"On the three or four days a year when it's not raining, it's well worth stopping at the top of the Bwlch y Clawdd and Mynydd Beili-glas to savour the views. By a happy coincidence, both lay-bys are regularly home to the world's two most optimistic ice-cream vans, giving you the chance to gaze at the rain streaking across your windscreen while sucking on a Rocket.

"While you're in the area, it would also be a crime to miss the finest pun in the entire fast food industry; Treorchy's superbly christened chippy, A Fish Called Rhondda. We've no idea what the food's like, but with a name like that, it batter be good ... ba-dum-tish!"

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soad

Original Poster:

34,680 posts

206 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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Not bad. Could easily spend your weekend there, driving. driving

toppstuff

13,698 posts

277 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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I've driven a few of the Welsh roads but don't make a habit of it.

What is the situation regarding the Rozzers in that neck of the woods?

Don't they have a reputation for lying in wait to pounce on sporting car drivers?

I wonder how Harris keeps his license as a resident of that country. smile

Steff

1,421 posts

293 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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The 997 GT3 was a bh and I spanked it.

Frances The Mute

1,816 posts

271 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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That's my old stomping ground. I used to live in Neath.

Plod have ruined the heads of the valley road. Cameras have mushroomed and there appears to be regular patrols. The last few times I've driven through there on a hoon from the West Mids has seen untold unmarked cars which has ruined what was a very rewarding drive.

Edited by Frances The Mute on Thursday 7th November 17:08

Jessop

435 posts

224 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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I too can vouch for the rozzers being out in presence down there, unfortuantely.

Beautiful place but ruined by OTT presence with the whole 'speed kills' mentality.

Playo

291 posts

225 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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I live less than ten minutes from the road the GT3 is on smokin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZnc69UyEYA

And here's one in my old car going across the Penderyn road

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mgewuq2M6Y

I love this place....

(Oops my bad, all done now)

Edited by Playo on Thursday 7th November 12:20

BigS

874 posts

203 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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I drive the Bwlch twice a day, 5 days a week to get to and from work in Swansea, as long as I'm not stuck behind too many 40mph everywhere zombies then it keeps me awake smile

I think I may have passed you parked up in a lay-by a month or so ago (could be longer) on my way home from work, I remember seeing a 911 of that colour either in the one just after the 2 hairpins coming up on the Abergwynfi side or where the ice cream van parks, I forget which now.

Davey S2

13,394 posts

284 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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Jessop said:
I too can vouch for the rozzers being out in presence down there, unfortuantely.

Beautiful place but ruined by OTT presence with the whole 'speed kills' mentality.
You're obviously on the wrong roads.

You do get cameras on some of the A roads but they are generally in well known and obvious places.

I've been driving around there for years and never had a problem. As always you just need to pick your time and place.

hoegaardenruls

1,224 posts

162 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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Playo said:
And here's one in my old car going across the Penderyn road

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mgewuq2M6Y

I love this place....
Love that stretch of road, and I remember (from SRS) that your old car was pretty rapid..

I wish I'd taken my old RS down there before I sold mine - was one of the first things I did when I bought the Porker.

TankRS

2,850 posts

184 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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I wish you'd all bugger off out of my valleys!!! wink


The A465 has now been fitted with average cameras, and they have been activated as my mates found out frown

to be honest, I've not seen a marked or unmarked police car whenever I've gone for a drive over either the Bwlch or Rhigos mountains. and thinking of it, there's been a severe lack of police the last time I was up Brecon, perhaps its due to the fact I've been heading up before 8am on a weekend for rallies. but cant say the last time I saw one parked up anywhere??


Another good one, and lesser used due to it being such a short blast is the A4233 Maerdy to Aberdare. The switchback hairpins going down into Aberdare are great too smile
I often think it'd make a great hillclimb route thumbup

https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?saddr=Station+Rd%2F...

kayzee

3,382 posts

211 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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Need this image wallpaper size please, it's simply epic!


Cabal722

16 posts

200 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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Never mind the sheep. You have to be very careful of bikers on the A4107 Afan Valley Road as they like to ride side by side and nearly all the bends are blind. My brother Leigh runs the mountain bike centre and fishing lakes and it is a community project started 20 years ago. The centre called Glyncorrwg Ponds.

Dan Trent

1,866 posts

198 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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BigS said:
I think I may have passed you parked up in a lay-by a month or so ago (could be longer) on my way home from work, I remember seeing a 911 of that colour either in the one just after the 2 hairpins coming up on the Abergwynfi side or where the ice cream van parks, I forget which now.
That will have been us! That wasn't you in the Transit with the trailer flapping about behind you was it? Was making suitable progress whoever it was and definitely knew the road!

Dan

canucklehead

416 posts

176 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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jealous.

mind you, there's a huge number of roads that would be extra fun if your car is a GT3.

BigS

874 posts

203 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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Dan Trent said:
BigS said:
I think I may have passed you parked up in a lay-by a month or so ago (could be longer) on my way home from work, I remember seeing a 911 of that colour either in the one just after the 2 hairpins coming up on the Abergwynfi side or where the ice cream van parks, I forget which now.
That will have been us! That wasn't you in the Transit with the trailer flapping about behind you was it? Was making suitable progress whoever it was and definitely knew the road!

Dan
No, that wasn't me, although I think I know which one you mean, there are a couple of transits that don't hang about over there.
I would have been in the black Rav4 making full use of all the available road. If you were by the hairpins you would probably have heard it squealing like pig long before I came into sight biggrin

Edited by BigS on Thursday 7th November 18:39

williredale

2,866 posts

182 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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Playo said:
And here's one in my old car going across the Penderyn road

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mgewuq2M6Y

I love this place....

(Oops my bad, all done now)

Edited by Playo on Thursday 7th November 12:20
That's one of my favourite roads. I might have to try the others in the original article because I haven't driven all of them.

Playo

291 posts

225 months

Friday 8th November 2013
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hoegaardenruls said:
Love that stretch of road, and I remember (from SRS) that your old car was pretty rapid..

I wish I'd taken my old RS down there before I sold mine - was one of the first things I did when I bought the Porker.
Hey how's it going Graeme. yes it's a good road that one, flows well without too much need for the brakes which was ideal in the Audi but I think I'm quicker on pretty much most other routes in the westfield!

Next time your up this way for a drive you should let me know thumbup

teacake

151 posts

221 months

Friday 8th November 2013
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This is indeed one of the best driving roads, although I may be biased as I used to live at one endpoint of the route and I now live at one of the others. I used the section from Glyncorrwg up to Bwlch y Clawdd as the test route when I was selling my Legacy GTB, which I think definitely helped show the car in its best light. You do need to be paying attention, though, it's not a forgiving road if you fall off.

MadDog1962

900 posts

192 months

Thursday 19th December 2013
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I've just done this is my parents 1.2 litre Nissan Micra, giving it a proper thrashing. Funnily enough it was very enjoyable working a small car hard and revving the nuts off it on these roads. The scenery is really spectacular. As well as the cafe at Glencorrwg there are vans at the mountain lookouts where you can get a good bacon sandwich on a nice Welsh bap. yum

I would recommend that anyone doing this drive extend it by going on from Hirwaun on the A4059 towards the Brecon Beacons past Ystradfellte. Very enjoyable, even in a small modestly powered hatchback. driving

okie592

2,711 posts

197 months

Thursday 19th December 2013
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Used to take this road on the drive to work, the 4 herpins down towards cymmer are lovely