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Yes I know it is illegal, but my wife is in pain, and nothing helps, so please no lectures.
My wife is 42 years old, and has numerous health issues, hip replacement, etc... and now a crumbling spine.
She has had all sorts of pain killers over the years, and is currently on 8 tramadol per day, plus ibuprofen.
She is still constantly in extreme pain,and this is a woman with a high pain threshold.
Her consultant, sort of suggested, that a smoke may help her.
Has anyone ever had marijuana to help with a medical condition?
Was it worth taking?
My wife is 42 years old, and has numerous health issues, hip replacement, etc... and now a crumbling spine.
She has had all sorts of pain killers over the years, and is currently on 8 tramadol per day, plus ibuprofen.
She is still constantly in extreme pain,and this is a woman with a high pain threshold.
Her consultant, sort of suggested, that a smoke may help her.
Has anyone ever had marijuana to help with a medical condition?
Was it worth taking?
Plenty say it does, medical trials too.
Not entirely convinced myself, suffering kidney stones. On my occasional testing of it many years ago it made me super sensitive, (pleasure not pain). Not something i would want in pain.
Made me feel like hell next day too.
Give it a try. No exactly difficult to find.
Not entirely convinced myself, suffering kidney stones. On my occasional testing of it many years ago it made me super sensitive, (pleasure not pain). Not something i would want in pain.
Made me feel like hell next day too.
Give it a try. No exactly difficult to find.
My experience, based upon observing the long term effects on muso friends and fellow musicians over the years who have permanently indulged with such drugs, has been that there is a clear connection between the dislocating and numbing effects on the individuals short term and the separation and withdrawal in those individuals from the rest of society in the long term. There has also been a visible increase in a permanent sense of confusion and muddled thinking in the same individuals. That is only my opinion and I am not an expert and have not attempted any sort of disciplined field trial.
However I do seriously urge anyone contemplating that process to obtain serious counselling before entering such an arrangement. No doubt some physical constitutions are unaffected but there are no free lunches in life and that includes the use of drugs long term. I wish good luck to the OP and his family and this is a matter for them to decide. But I would research the probable long term mental effects before following that path.
However I do seriously urge anyone contemplating that process to obtain serious counselling before entering such an arrangement. No doubt some physical constitutions are unaffected but there are no free lunches in life and that includes the use of drugs long term. I wish good luck to the OP and his family and this is a matter for them to decide. But I would research the probable long term mental effects before following that path.
Edited by Steffan on Thursday 7th November 23:21
Try vapourisers - no unhealthy smoke. This one is the rolls-royce, but you can get less expensive ones: http://www.everyonedoesit.co.uk/online_headshop/vo...
Indica strains are what you should be looking for rather than Sativa strains- for example avoid anything with haze in the name if you want to minimise some of the negative effects described above! have a look at some seed websites which will describe genetics and effects of various types. there are thousands these days but probably only 5 or ten that are common. all have a slightly different high in much the same way as different spirits make you drunk in a different way. Indica strains are said to me more of a body type high whereas Sativas have a more cerebral effect. having said that nearly all strains you'll come across will be a cross of both - i.e. "Skunk".
I have chronic pain from Ankylosing spondylitis and found the most effective strain to be 'cheese' - seems to have more pain relieving qualities than others. interestingly it apparently doesn't actually relive pain as such but somehow allows you to tolerate it more easily. I'll try and find the article.
I'd also recommend looking at a vapouriser, but take it easy as it can deliver a much higher 'dose' as they are more efficient than a good old spliff.
I have chronic pain from Ankylosing spondylitis and found the most effective strain to be 'cheese' - seems to have more pain relieving qualities than others. interestingly it apparently doesn't actually relive pain as such but somehow allows you to tolerate it more easily. I'll try and find the article.
I'd also recommend looking at a vapouriser, but take it easy as it can deliver a much higher 'dose' as they are more efficient than a good old spliff.
Edited by GTDNB on Thursday 7th November 23:43
backwoodsman said:
Yes I know it is illegal, but my wife is in pain, and nothing helps, so please no lectures.
My wife is 42 years old, and has numerous health issues, hip replacement, etc... and now a crumbling spine.
She has had all sorts of pain killers over the years, and is currently on 8 tramadol per day, plus ibuprofen.
She is still constantly in extreme pain,and this is a woman with a high pain threshold.
Her consultant, sort of suggested, that a smoke may help her.
Has anyone ever had marijuana to help with a medical condition?
Was it worth taking?
For a start tramadol as a very very very weak painkiller, she has a whole range to try from codeine, dihydrocodeine, oxycodone etc all the way up to fentanyl.My wife is 42 years old, and has numerous health issues, hip replacement, etc... and now a crumbling spine.
She has had all sorts of pain killers over the years, and is currently on 8 tramadol per day, plus ibuprofen.
She is still constantly in extreme pain,and this is a woman with a high pain threshold.
Her consultant, sort of suggested, that a smoke may help her.
Has anyone ever had marijuana to help with a medical condition?
Was it worth taking?
Is she seeing a pain clinic at her hospital?
What has she been prescribed before and what has she had done?
I might be able to give you a non-binding non-doctor opinion ;-)
Silent1 said:
For a start tramadol as a very very very weak painkiller, she has a whole range to try from codeine, dihydrocodeine, oxycodone etc all the way up to fentanyl.
Is she seeing a pain clinic at her hospital?
What has she been prescribed before and what has she had done?
I might be able to give you a non-binding non-doctor opinion ;-)
are you sure about that? I was prescribed Tramadol when nothing else worked. I found it was fairly unpleasant stuff, made me much more dazed and confused than any weed!Is she seeing a pain clinic at her hospital?
What has she been prescribed before and what has she had done?
I might be able to give you a non-binding non-doctor opinion ;-)
I am currently taking 300mg of Tramadol modified release. I find them to muddy my head less than Codeine. Best for pain relief and a clear head was Pregabelin as far as over the counter meds.
Otherwise I am told hash is pretty good if you can find it, a nice quality Polm is probably the best as far as pain relief and minimum unpleasant side effects.
Really would suggest she sees a good pain specialist. If you are in north surrey I have one I could recommend.
Otherwise I am told hash is pretty good if you can find it, a nice quality Polm is probably the best as far as pain relief and minimum unpleasant side effects.
Really would suggest she sees a good pain specialist. If you are in north surrey I have one I could recommend.
Edited by Big_Dog on Friday 8th November 00:11
Give it a go. I smoked it with my dad during his latter months with a brain tumour, the actiq lozenges where starting to lose their kick and it was very much terminal so was worth a punt. It improved his appetite and reduced the pain of the shingles that he also picked up on his forehead during the cancer treatment.
In America where it has been legal for medicinal use for some time now they have come up with a strain that is mainly CBD rather than THC so you get all the medicinal benefits without the high. Unfortunately due to our draconian drug laws many people have been deprived of effective pain relief.
There is sites which ship to the UK from legal states in the US which will provide you with safe medicine rather than risk the street crap often pushed in the UK. Prohibition ruins quality while making it more accessible to our youth.
In America where it has been legal for medicinal use for some time now they have come up with a strain that is mainly CBD rather than THC so you get all the medicinal benefits without the high. Unfortunately due to our draconian drug laws many people have been deprived of effective pain relief.
There is sites which ship to the UK from legal states in the US which will provide you with safe medicine rather than risk the street crap often pushed in the UK. Prohibition ruins quality while making it more accessible to our youth.
Silent1 said:
For a start tramadol as a very very very weak painkiller, she has a whole range to try from codeine, dihydrocodeine, oxycodone etc all the way up to fentanyl.
Is she seeing a pain clinic at her hospital?
What has she been prescribed before and what has she had done?
I might be able to give you a non-binding non-doctor opinion ;-)
Yup. Tramadol is not particularly heavy duty. First port of call should be a specialist opinion from a consultant pain specialist.Is she seeing a pain clinic at her hospital?
What has she been prescribed before and what has she had done?
I might be able to give you a non-binding non-doctor opinion ;-)
Why stop at the green? There's loads of narcotics that will act as a much more effective pain killer. Some will null pain, some will make you simply not care about pain, some will have you so spaced-out pain is an irrelevance, some will make you enjoy pain.
IME THC and canabinoids don't dull pain, at least not anything like getted seriously p!ssed.
Also I gained 20 IQ points and got a degree after spending a lot of my Uni time stoned, so ner to those who think it ruins your mind. To many people, it opens it.
IME THC and canabinoids don't dull pain, at least not anything like getted seriously p!ssed.
Also I gained 20 IQ points and got a degree after spending a lot of my Uni time stoned, so ner to those who think it ruins your mind. To many people, it opens it.
jogon said:
Give it a go. I smoked it with my dad during his latter months with a brain tumour, the actiq lozenges where starting to lose their kick and it was very much terminal so was worth a punt. It improved his appetite and reduced the pain of the shingles that he also picked up on his forehead during the cancer treatment.
In America where it has been legal for medicinal use for some time now they have come up with a strain that is mainly CBD rather than THC so you get all the medicinal benefits without the high. Unfortunately due to our draconian drug laws many people have been deprived of effective pain relief.
There is sites which ship to the UK from legal states in the US which will provide you with safe medicine rather than risk the street crap often pushed in the UK. Prohibition ruins quality while making it more accessible to our youth.
Such as what? Sativex? Which, ironically, is made in the UK. And only £125 for a 10ml bottle on the NHS!In America where it has been legal for medicinal use for some time now they have come up with a strain that is mainly CBD rather than THC so you get all the medicinal benefits without the high. Unfortunately due to our draconian drug laws many people have been deprived of effective pain relief.
There is sites which ship to the UK from legal states in the US which will provide you with safe medicine rather than risk the street crap often pushed in the UK. Prohibition ruins quality while making it more accessible to our youth.
GTDNB said:
are you sure about that? I was prescribed Tramadol when nothing else worked. I found it was fairly unpleasant stuff, made me much more dazed and confused than any weed!
Very, tramadol is a synthetic opioid that is a very weak μ-opioid receptor agonist.In layman terms it has very little effect on the receptors in the brain and generally on the scale of painkillers is only just above ibuprofen/paracetamol and pretty much in line with codeine, the idea behind it is that in theory it's less addictive than codeine and hence why it's prescribed.
Another easy way to tell is if something is prescribed in the hundreds of milligrams then it's not strong, as you go up the opioid scale the dosages get smaller until you get to fentanyl which is dosed in thousandths of a milligram.
Looks like I missed a few relivent points.
My wife is open to the idea of trying it. And she already smokes cigarettes, so would smoke it, and not take any other way.
She is under a pain management consultant.
She was a heroin user for 5 years but been clean for 17 years now, but this limits what the doctors will give her.
My wife is open to the idea of trying it. And she already smokes cigarettes, so would smoke it, and not take any other way.
She is under a pain management consultant.
She was a heroin user for 5 years but been clean for 17 years now, but this limits what the doctors will give her.
Oakey said:
Such as what? Sativex? Which, ironically, is made in the UK. And only £125 for a 10ml bottle on the NHS!
That wasn't available unfortunately when my dad was ill and you might find the NHS are extremely reluctant to hand it out partly down to the price you've mentioned. I was referring to the unregulated street market where quality is not great compared to the medical grade cannabis herb sent to your door in in less than a week for $250 an oz. Whats the point of Sativex when you can vaporise some OG Kush for a fraction of the price.
Edited by jogon on Friday 8th November 08:01
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