Could you charge an i3 by towing it?
Could you charge an i3 by towing it?
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RossP

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2,606 posts

313 months

Saturday 9th November 2013
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This idea just popped into my head and it's a pretty pointless topic really...

But I was thinking that an i3 would make a good car to tow behind a camper van. Potentially could you recharge the i3 battery while it was being towed (on an a-frame)?

kambites

71,565 posts

251 months

Saturday 9th November 2013
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I suppose there's no theoretical reason why not, but you'd have to have it turned on and I dread to think what it would do to the economy of the towing vehicle.

rohrl

8,984 posts

175 months

Saturday 9th November 2013
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If you fitted a magnet on the end of a pole then bolted it to the front bumper you could sneak up behind a lorry on the motorway. Hitch yourself on to it and you get a free tow as well as a recharge.

Benj1984

173 posts

161 months

Saturday 9th November 2013
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If it uses the a similar electrical system to hybrid toyota/lexus then no. They can't be towed any faster than walking pace as it ruins the motor generators.

Benj1984

173 posts

161 months

Saturday 9th November 2013
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If it uses the a similar electrical system to hybrid toyota/lexus then no. They can't be towed any faster than walking pace as it ruins the motor generators.

joewilliams

2,004 posts

231 months

Saturday 9th November 2013
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Even if the electrical system on the car could take it, think about where the power to turn the generators is coming from.

The Moose

23,683 posts

239 months

Saturday 9th November 2013
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Surely it'd use a st load of petrol to tow the thing to charge it up?

You can't get energy "for free" so it'd have to come from somewhere - maybe just smoke around in a normal petrol powered car?!

Debaser

8,542 posts

291 months

Saturday 9th November 2013
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You can charge a Leaf by towing it.

The Moose

23,683 posts

239 months

Saturday 9th November 2013
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Debaser said:
You can charge a Leaf by towing it.
What about lots of Leafs??


Steffan

10,362 posts

258 months

Saturday 9th November 2013
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I do think that the practical answer is no, not at reasonable cost or speed. As others have said the towing speed would not be suitable on the roads and the car generators will burn out. In theory I suppose you could run a charging cable from the towing vehicle direct onto the car itself bur again the losses etc on towing would make this prohibitive I think. Charging in the normal way strikes me as preferable.

Slow

6,973 posts

167 months

Saturday 9th November 2013
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Think he meant for people going camping where they tow smart cars and things behind?

ADEuk

1,911 posts

266 months

Saturday 9th November 2013
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How much fuel would a small petrol/diesel generator need to fully charge one?

rohrl

8,984 posts

175 months

Saturday 9th November 2013
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ADEuk said:
How much fuel would a small petrol/diesel generator need to fully charge one?
Not very much as it could run constantly at it's most efficient speed not being linked to the speed of the roadwheels. You've just invented the Fisker Karma btw.

Debaser

8,542 posts

291 months

Saturday 9th November 2013
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Mave

8,217 posts

245 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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Surely easier to connect the battery of the i3 to the towing vehicle electrically?

RossP

Original Poster:

2,606 posts

313 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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It wasn't really a serious suggestion as being the best way to charge it. I just wondered if it would be possible.

Gilhooligan

2,221 posts

174 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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Possible. But the conservation of energy suggests it's not a great idea.

anonymous-user

84 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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Assuming the car was correctly turned on, and on "drive" then towing the car at any speed above the min regen speed will charge the battery. Of course depending on the torque calibration the system may limit the amount of regen to prevent the system over heating etc

Bobley

730 posts

179 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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Some car towing frames include a mechanism to activate the brakes on the towed car. Conversely you could use a load cell in the tow hitch to activate the accelerator too?

Why not ditch the mechanical tow hitch completely and connect the CAN bus together over Bluetooth and use the active cruise radar/electric steering and just tell the I3 to follow closely behind?

Steffan

10,362 posts

258 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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It is clearly possible to arrange a method of towing an i3 which would produce a charge in the batteries of the car. Whether this would be worthwhile is another question. I do not think it would be worth the effort required because there are a number of existing ways to charge such a car. The losses inherent in the system proposed for this purpose seem to me to be self defeating.