police blocking bus lanes
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Spotted this in todays paper, lets hope the council re think letting the police use its bus stops for its cameravans, another good example of police revenu generating and not caring who it affects!!
Spotted this in todays paper, lets hope the council re think letting the police use its bus stops for its cameravans, another good example of police revenu generating and not caring who it affects!!
towman said:
All I can see is a bus driver who cant be bothered to make the effort to reach the kerb. IMO the van is not a problem. Whether or not it should be there is another matter.
Steve
That's all I'm seeing as well. Its not like the scamera van is in the middle of the stop parked nose on to the kerb.
gh0st-preop said:
What????
Any news to discredit the scamerati is good news surely???
Yes, but in my book the two kind of cancel each other out - but thats me.
Technically arent they liable for a fine for infringing said bus lane if the scamera van is operated by a civilian? Now that would be karmically perfect :P
TheLemming said:
As a pretty much unstated policy, we the PH masses hate bus lanes almost as much as innapropriate speed limits, excessive scameras and chavs...
Personally, I luv `em. Mainly because half the mindless morons who drive in this country are too stupid to read the signs. Gives me a free lane all to myself after 7pm.
Steve
Streetcop said:
Streetcop said:
Did loads in the bus lanes yesterday
well I hope you cleared it up after you.
Funny enough...it's surprising how often one needs to go to the toilet when you're standing out for hours on end, with no facilities nearby....
Street
Could be something to do with the cold weather. Atb Derek.
TripleS said:
Streetcop said:
Did loads in the bus lanes yesterday
well I hope you cleared it up after you.
A bit like "The Two Ronnies" and their joke about the elephant that did a ton on the M1. Drivers were advised to treat it as a roundabout!
Best wishes all,
Dave.
Thats terrible! You ought to be banned for life for even thinking of posting that!!!
Streetcop said:Is this just too boring to answer, doesn't anyone have the answer, or is the answer too embarassing for those that do? Or, perhaps, my oft repeated question was, as ever, too complicated and convoluted for todays soundbite society?
Did loads in the bus lanes yesterday.....the ones that don't have the permission to be there..
As far as I am aware, bus lanes are supposed to stop short of junctions to allow drivers to turn off without blocking what little of the road is left for divers without necessitiating a handbrake turn.
Ie
a) The legal requirement as I understand it - bus lane stops short of junction by a specified distance, leaving a left filter lane for people in the car lane to pull off the car lane into, and decelerate in, for the junction, so not blocking the car lane - everything legal and hunky-dory.
b) Typical bus lane has white line (which you cannot touch with your wheels legally?) running right up to, and level with, the side road, forcing drivers to either approach their turn at speed and do a handbrake turn, or slow right down (and so slow all following traffic) and execute a turn using forward and reverse gears to avoid clipping the end of the bus lane - illegal and every thing is hunky-dory for Street
to hit his targets, albeit illegally? The Question (yet again)........
i) If the bus lane does not stop the specified distance back, never mind goes right up to the very corner of the junction, is it illegal?
ii) If it is not legal, is it then legal to drive in the bus lane (at least in order to turn left without blocking following traffic)?
iii) If it is legal to drive in the bus lane, is it not illegal to prosecute people for doing it?
Supplementary question....
1v) If one section of the bus lane, between two junctions, stops the specified distance back, does that section become legal, or does the fact that (all the) other sections are illegal make the whole of the bus lane illegal?
Over to you, Boyz in Blue.
where a left turn is in the middle of a bus lane..the solid white line between bus lane and normal lane should be broken into a dotted white line allowing turners to turn left....
Nearside mirror first...or else you'll hit some numpty in a Nova teararsing down the bus lane, overtaking everyone on the inside...
Nearside mirror first...or else you'll hit some numpty in a Nova teararsing down the bus lane, overtaking everyone on the inside...
Streetcop said:Thanks for that Street. So I now have the answer to....
where a left turn is in the middle of a bus lane..the solid white line between bus lane and normal lane should be broken into a dotted white line allowing turners to turn left....
diesel ed said:
Is this just too boring to answer, doesn't anyone have the answer, or is the answer too embarassing for those that do? Or, perhaps, my oft repeated question was, as ever, too complicated and convoluted for todays soundbite society?
As far as I am aware, bus lanes are supposed to stop short of junctions to allow drivers to turn off without blocking what little of the road is left for divers without necessitiating a handbrake turn.
Ie
a) The legal requirement as I understand it - bus lane stops short of junction by a specified distance, leaving a left filter lane for people in the car lane to pull off the car lane into, and decelerate in, for the junction, so not blocking the car lane - everything legal and hunky-dory.
Now all we need is someone who knows the anser to.....
diesel ed said:
b) Typical bus lane has [a solid] white line (which you cannot touch with your wheels legally?) running right up to, and level with, the side road, forcing drivers to either approach their turn at speed and do a handbrake turn, or slow right down (and so slow all following traffic) and execute a turn using forward and reverse gears to avoid clipping the end of the bus lane - illegal and every thing is hunky-dory for Street
The Question (yet again)........
i) If the bus lane does not stop the specified distance back [ie change to a broken white line for the specified distance], never mind goes right up to the very corner of the junction [with a solid white line], is it illegal?
ii) If it is not legal, is it then legal to drive in the bus lane (at least in order to turn left without blocking following traffic)?
iii) If it is legal to drive in the bus lane, is it not illegal to prosecute people for doing it?
Supplementary question....
1v) If one section of the bus lane, between two junctions, stops the specified distance back [has the broken white line for the specified distance], does that section become legal, or does the fact that (all the) other sections are illegal make the whole of the bus lane illegal?
Over to you, Boyz in Blue.
diesel ed said:
Typical bus lane has [a solid] white line (which you cannot touch with your wheels legally?) running right up to, and level with, the side road, forcing drivers to either approach their turn at speed and do a handbrake turn, or slow right down (and so slow all following traffic) and execute a turn using forward and reverse gears to avoid clipping the end of the bus lane - illegal and every thing is hunky-dory for Street
That's incorrect...well in my force area anyways...the bus lane's solid white line ends about 10 metres from the juntion and an arrow pointing from the car lane into what was the bus lane is painted on the floor.
At the other side of the junction, the bus lane re starts.
95% of people were managing it very easily...even heavy goods vehicles...So how the Kevins, Dwaynes and Kylie's in their cars didn't accomplish it correctly is beyond me....Oh wait, no it isn't...It's because they didn't want to wait in a queue and felt their importance was more than the other people's....that's why they blatted down the bus lane...
This quote at the end seems to fit the picture of most towns, the way the local authorities seem to be "managing" traffic flow and their hidden agenda:
"...I’ve tried to get Reading Borough Council to support me on this but perhaps they just want Reading to grind to a halt so they can push the Government for congestion charges..."
"...I’ve tried to get Reading Borough Council to support me on this but perhaps they just want Reading to grind to a halt so they can push the Government for congestion charges..."
Quite right James ....
Another thing ..it seems these 'low floor' buses were put there to help disabled and partially sighted people but only do that if they can get next to the kerb .... so that scamera van is making life difficult for the disabled. Perhals here political correctness may actually be of some use .....
Another thing ..it seems these 'low floor' buses were put there to help disabled and partially sighted people but only do that if they can get next to the kerb .... so that scamera van is making life difficult for the disabled. Perhals here political correctness may actually be of some use .....
diesel ed said:
where a left turn is in the middle of a bus lane..the solid white line between bus lane and normal lane should be broken into a dotted white line allowing turners to turn left....
Thanks for that Street. So I now have the answer to....
diesel ed said:
Is this just too boring to answer, doesn't anyone have the answer, or is the answer too embarassing for those that do? Or, perhaps, my oft repeated question was, as ever, too complicated and convoluted for todays soundbite society?
As far as I am aware, bus lanes are supposed to stop short of junctions to allow drivers to turn off without blocking what little of the road is left for divers without necessitiating a handbrake turn.
Ie
a) The legal requirement as I understand it - bus lane stops short of junction by a specified distance, leaving a left filter lane for people in the car lane to pull off the car lane into, and decelerate in, for the junction, so not blocking the car lane - everything legal and hunky-dory.
Now all we need is someone who knows the anser to.....diesel ed said:
b) Typical bus lane has [a solid] white line (which you cannot touch with your wheels legally?) running right up to, and level with, the side road, forcing drivers to either approach their turn at speed and do a handbrake turn, or slow right down (and so slow all following traffic) and execute a turn using forward and reverse gears to avoid clipping the end of the bus lane - illegal and every thing is hunky-dory for Street
The Question (yet again)........
i) If the bus lane does not stop the specified distance back [ie change to a broken white line for the specified distance], never mind goes right up to the very corner of the junction [with a solid white line], is it illegal?
ii) If it is not legal, is it then legal to drive in the bus lane (at least in order to turn left without blocking following traffic)?
iii) If it is legal to drive in the bus lane, is it not illegal to prosecute people for doing it?
Supplementary question....
1v) If one section of the bus lane, between two junctions, stops the specified distance back [has the broken white line for the specified distance], does that section become legal, or does the fact that (all the) other sections are illegal make the whole of the bus lane illegal?
Over to you, Boyz in Blue.
thats remarkably similar to a poster who once went by the name bogbrush!
Hmm..i wonder?
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