Is overrun a bad thing?
Is overrun a bad thing?
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Tripps

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5,814 posts

301 months

Friday 5th November 2004
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Obviously sound and attention-wise nothing beats the POP BANG of over-run, but after a boring stop-start drive home last night that had me revving to 3000rpm and releasing for maximum effect it got my wondering....

The noise (and flames if you're lucky ) are caused small explosions by unspent fuel somewhere in the exhaust (manifolds?).

Obviously if this fuel isn't being burnt in the engine its wasted, I can live with that for the factor but does it cause damage to anything in the exhaust or elsewhere at all?

Not that I'd be persuaded not to make use of over-run, but I'm just curious.

ncs

3,974 posts

311 months

Friday 5th November 2004
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Its a bit like breaking wind - loads of fun for the person doing it - but it can be distressing for those in close proximity

And as far as Im aware it doesnt do your internal organs any harm.

Hope this helps.

Nick

Tripps

Original Poster:

5,814 posts

301 months

Saturday 6th November 2004
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ncs said:
Its a bit like breaking wind - loads of fun for the person doing it - but it can be distressing for those in close proximity
I'll bear that in mind whenever I see you in the my rear view mirror then

ukbob

16,277 posts

294 months

Saturday 6th November 2004
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ncs said:
Its a bit like breaking wind - loads of fun for the person doing it - but it can be distressing for those in close proximity

Spoken by a man whose never had a wet fart

Tripps said:

I'll bear that in mind whenever I see you in the my rear view mirror then
Remember to roll down your window so he can smell it

shadowninja

79,993 posts

311 months

Saturday 6th November 2004
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I heard there's the potential of being accused of being into bestiality... you could f**k your cat

Guillotine

5,516 posts

293 months

Saturday 6th November 2004
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WILL bigger your pre-cats if you still have them.

this will cause them to break up causing blockages and associated damage.

will also cause probs to your cat (), with possible bits of pre cat blocking and unburnt fuel cooking. with probable MOT failures forth coming.

then there's the damage to the silencer if you still have one...breaking up and burning the wadding causing a mettalic sound and more db's...

not all bad then!

top if you have a pre-cat!!!

PatHeald

8,058 posts

285 months

Saturday 6th November 2004
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How are you generating the popping and banging on the overrun?

If it happens all by itself, then it suggests that the motor is running a bit rich. In extreme situations, this can lead to engine wear caused by the excessive fuel washing lubricating oil off the bores, rings and maybe valve guides.

It also allegedly knackers catalysts, but who cares about them?

I used to run a 4 litre Jeep with a Powerflow exhaust. The only way I could get it to spit, pop and bang was gently to rest my foot on the throttle whilst the car was on the overrun, preferably down a long hill. In other words, to provoke an artificially rich mixture.

The catalyst on the Jeep collapsed and used to rattle like mad, though whether this was as a result of my abuse is anyone's guess.

It is noteworthy that it still sailed through the emissions test at MOT time, even with the knackered cat.

Shortly afterwards, I took the exhaust off and knocked the guts out of the catalyst, leaving an empty box, followed by a straight through silencer.

I then sold the thing, so I have no idea whether it would ever pass a proper MOT test. It did, however, sound absolutely fantastic.....

Cheers

Pat


White_Van_Man

3,848 posts

278 months

Sunday 7th November 2004
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ncs said:
Its a bit like breaking wind - loads of fun for the person doing it - but it can be distressing for those in close proximity

And as far as Im aware it doesnt do your internal organs any harm.

Hope this helps.

Nick

trooper1212

9,457 posts

281 months

Sunday 7th November 2004
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PatHeald said:
How are you generating the popping and banging on the overrun?

If it happens all by itself, then it suggests that the motor is running a bit rich.



It's a Cerb, they don't run just a "bit" rich

TimW

3,848 posts

276 months

Sunday 7th November 2004
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Or a wild cam.

loose cannon

6,057 posts

270 months

Sunday 7th November 2004
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it has been known for cats that rattle to get sucked into the engine on over run

ukbob

16,277 posts

294 months

Monday 8th November 2004
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loose cannon said:
it has been known for cats that rattle to get sucked into the engine on over run
All the more reason to Decat, just in case

loose cannon

6,057 posts

270 months

Monday 8th November 2004
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dont let off and it will pop out the other end

wixer

373 posts

279 months

Monday 8th November 2004
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My old M3 (the original proper one) at one time was spitting 3 foot flames out the back on over run and when I changed gear, this was due to the fact that the base idle mixture was too rich, thus dumping too much fuel into the engine, a quick re-tune sorted it out.