38mm Zenith 36,000vph Chronograph - Is it a ladies watch?
Discussion
Guys, when did 38mm watches become ladies watches?
Don't get me wrong, my collection is dominated by a Deepsea, IWC Spitfire Chrono and a Seadweller, which aren't small watches but I've been looking for something more understated for under a suit/ shirt.
I think my ND Sub and Spitfire are going to make way for another watch and I really fancy a Zenith with the 36,000vph movement.
Effectively, the Seadweller replaces the Sub (and I have a modified Seiko, like a Black Bay on the way) and I need a new Chrono to replace the IWC but I wanted something more 'delicate'.
In an ideal world, I would get a Striking 10th but I have spent far, far too much money recently so I've been scratching around for a deal!
Spotted a couple of Zeniths that I really liked, correct movement and 38mm (subtle)... Some places have them advertised as Men's watches but Zenith themselves say these are ladies watches... The 1969, specifically, looks like a mini Striking 10th.
What say you? Will you all call me out as a jessie if I start wearing a 38mm Zenith? No pink/ diamonds/ cuddly toys feature!
Don't get me wrong, my collection is dominated by a Deepsea, IWC Spitfire Chrono and a Seadweller, which aren't small watches but I've been looking for something more understated for under a suit/ shirt.
I think my ND Sub and Spitfire are going to make way for another watch and I really fancy a Zenith with the 36,000vph movement.
Effectively, the Seadweller replaces the Sub (and I have a modified Seiko, like a Black Bay on the way) and I need a new Chrono to replace the IWC but I wanted something more 'delicate'.
In an ideal world, I would get a Striking 10th but I have spent far, far too much money recently so I've been scratching around for a deal!
Spotted a couple of Zeniths that I really liked, correct movement and 38mm (subtle)... Some places have them advertised as Men's watches but Zenith themselves say these are ladies watches... The 1969, specifically, looks like a mini Striking 10th.
What say you? Will you all call me out as a jessie if I start wearing a 38mm Zenith? No pink/ diamonds/ cuddly toys feature!
And most Rolex were less than 40mm (I'm thinking the abundant Oyster Perps etc) until recently and they were all considered men's watches.
The 38mm 1969 looks like a mini Striking 10th to me and nothing suggests it is a ladies watch at all.
So why are Zenith calling it a ladies watch? It doesn't strike me that it appeals to a lady, specifically!?
I'm clearly not comfortable enough in my own skin to pull the trigger until Zenith tell me it's actually unisex...
Better ask Mrs9 to start wearing the trousers when I'm home next week!
The 38mm 1969 looks like a mini Striking 10th to me and nothing suggests it is a ladies watch at all.
So why are Zenith calling it a ladies watch? It doesn't strike me that it appeals to a lady, specifically!?
I'm clearly not comfortable enough in my own skin to pull the trigger until Zenith tell me it's actually unisex...
Better ask Mrs9 to start wearing the trousers when I'm home next week!
http://www.zenith-watches.com/en_en/collections/el...
This is stunning .I have tried it on. The 42mm version of the Striking ten is just too big.
This is stunning .I have tried it on. The 42mm version of the Striking ten is just too big.
I wore a 35mm Omega MegaQuartz 32KHz yesterday. I only noticed one person pay any attention to it at all and he was wearing an enormous lump of tat that the cuff of his cheap suit couldnt accomodate!
I wore a 34mm Rolex the day before yesterday too. Now, this fellow may have thought that they were ladies watches, but his opinion doesnt count for much.
I wore a 34mm Rolex the day before yesterday too. Now, this fellow may have thought that they were ladies watches, but his opinion doesnt count for much.
Edited by GC8 on Friday 15th November 17:29
GC8 said:
. I only noticed one person pay any attention to it at all and he was wearing an enormous lump of tat that the cuff of his cheap suit couldnt accomodate!
. Now, this fellow may have thought that they were ladies watches, but his opinion doesnt count for much.
A bit harsh on the Breitling wearers but about right ! . Now, this fellow may have thought that they were ladies watches, but his opinion doesnt count for much.
Miguel Alvarez said:
All (not many) of the 1969 I've seen are 40mm. I remember seeing one in a magasine that was 38mm and sold as a ladies watch but then it had loads of diamonds and to be fair looked like a ladies watch.
Mine is 40mm and a perfect size given I've got small wrists. I suppose in the current context with mens' sports watches being 42mm-plus a 38mm case could be considered a ladies' watch if you're a girl who likes big watches!Not sure if you've misread me or just adding but for clarification I think the 1969 is a perfect looking watch and the size is just right. Apart from an old G SHock I have nothing above 40mm.
ETA
This is the one I was referring to that looks like a ladies watch and is a ladies watch. I don't even think the size is an issue here it just looks like a woman's watch.
ETA
This is the one I was referring to that looks like a ladies watch and is a ladies watch. I don't even think the size is an issue here it just looks like a woman's watch.
Edited by Miguel Alvarez on Friday 15th November 13:00
Personally, I've always taken the attitude that if you like it, wear it.
Over the years that's covered everything from 1940s mechanicals at around 28 - 30mm upwards. No-one's ever commented on the smaller stuff except to admire them for what they were - quality watches from an era when size wasn't everything.
An El Primero in a 38mm case = restrained quality that doesn't need to shout about itself. Would the opinion of some uncultured oik who doesn't recognise that really matter to you?
eta: I'd suggest that why Zenith are describing it as a "ladies" model is simply because they can't physically get that movement intp anything much smaller and want something in the range they can offer to both sexes.
Over the years that's covered everything from 1940s mechanicals at around 28 - 30mm upwards. No-one's ever commented on the smaller stuff except to admire them for what they were - quality watches from an era when size wasn't everything.
An El Primero in a 38mm case = restrained quality that doesn't need to shout about itself. Would the opinion of some uncultured oik who doesn't recognise that really matter to you?
eta: I'd suggest that why Zenith are describing it as a "ladies" model is simply because they can't physically get that movement intp anything much smaller and want something in the range they can offer to both sexes.
Edited by Variomatic on Friday 15th November 13:35
Edited by Variomatic on Friday 15th November 13:36
Ok, so there appears to be 2 1969 style watches, both 38mm but one marketed as the Original 1969 for men (C713) and one for women (C709)...
I honestly don't see the difference at all!
Hmmmm... Hang on, in the tech details for the link to the C713, I have found reference to 44mm so maybe there is an error somewhere?!
I honestly don't see the difference at all!
Hmmmm... Hang on, in the tech details for the link to the C713, I have found reference to 44mm so maybe there is an error somewhere?!
Sod it... It might be for a chick (according to Zenith) but I am buying:
Men's El Primero Original 1969 Watch
03-2150-400-69-C713
For around GBP2,750 (seems very reasonable)
My ND Sub, IWC Spitfire Chrono and maybe an old (standard) Tag F1 Chrono will be making way for it... I don't need all of them anymore.
Then I will have:
- Rolex Seadweller
- Zenith Original 1969
- Modded Seiko 0031 to Black Bay specs
As my 'regular rotation'... Ok, and a couple of others (unworn Tag F1 Ltd Ed made for Renault F1 Team) squirreled away!
Men's El Primero Original 1969 Watch
03-2150-400-69-C713
For around GBP2,750 (seems very reasonable)
My ND Sub, IWC Spitfire Chrono and maybe an old (standard) Tag F1 Chrono will be making way for it... I don't need all of them anymore.
Then I will have:
- Rolex Seadweller
- Zenith Original 1969
- Modded Seiko 0031 to Black Bay specs
As my 'regular rotation'... Ok, and a couple of others (unworn Tag F1 Ltd Ed made for Renault F1 Team) squirreled away!
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