'Without Prejudice' stated on an invoice???
'Without Prejudice' stated on an invoice???
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nail_it

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238 months

Monday 18th November 2013
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We have a flat and have received the management charges from the new management company that has just taken charge.
On the invoice it states: 'The sums above are demanded without prejudice'
Our vague understanding of the legal term 'without prejudice' seems inappropriate on an invoice.
Advice appreciated please

Simpo Two

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295 months

Monday 18th November 2013
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nail_it

Original Poster:

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238 months

Monday 18th November 2013
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Simpo Two said:
Hey.....thanks smile
But, if there hasn't been a dispute - to our knowledge - why have they included the term?
Does it suggest then, that the management company are expecting challenges to their invoices and trying to cover their arses?

iphonedyou

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187 months

Monday 18th November 2013
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From my understanding - background is dispute resolution and contract drafting in infrastructure - they'll be using the term there to cover themselves in case they wish to demand more, or the same / different sum for a different item. Essentially, to avoid limiting themselves.

It means - rather, they think it to mean - that you can't then approach them later, after they've changed the demand, citing the contents of the original letter as reasoning for not paying the sums they believe due.

nail_it

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Monday 18th November 2013
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iphonedyou said:
From my understanding - background is dispute resolution and contract drafting in infrastructure - they'll be using the term there to cover themselves in case they wish to demand more, or the same / different sum for a different item. Essentially, to avoid limiting themselves.

It means - rather, they think it to mean - that you can't then approach them later, after they've changed the demand, citing the contents of the original letter as reasoning for not paying the sums they believe due.
Cheers.
Interesting as we noted that they have not included a budget forecast.

Simpo Two

92,957 posts

295 months

Monday 18th November 2013
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Another win for the PH Trufflehounds biggrin

anonymous-user

84 months

Thursday 21st November 2013
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Invoices usually say EAOE to cover this, errors and omissions excepted, at least they did in the days when I practiced

mx stu

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253 months

Thursday 21st November 2013
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iphonedyou said:
From my understanding - background is dispute resolution and contract drafting in infrastructure - they'll be using the term there to cover themselves in case they wish to demand more, or the same / different sum for a different item. Essentially, to avoid limiting themselves.

It means - rather, they think it to mean - that you can't then approach them later, after they've changed the demand, citing the contents of the original letter as reasoning for not paying the sums they believe due.
I would have thought that if it's a new management company it's without prejudice to any amounts owed or paid to the old management company.

Fat hippo

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164 months

Thursday 21st November 2013
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Berw said:
Invoices usually say EAOE to cover this, errors and omissions excepted, at least they did in the days when I practiced
Agree that it's probably trying to cover themselves.

I actually used it when I was paying my freeholder for management expenses that they couldn't justify.

OT but i wonder if it works with parking tickets or speeding fines giving the opportunity to pay early to receive the 50% discount but keep options open to go to court to dispute it?