New engine fitted to car
New engine fitted to car
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matt21

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4,400 posts

234 months

Monday 18th November 2013
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A friend purchased a 2004 Passat 2.5 TDI last month. Dealer trading from home, claimed it has FSH, cambelt just done, viewed car, all seemed fine, purchase made.

He showed me the car and I noted it wasn't heating up properly. No issue probably just needs a thermostat.

Took it I'm for the stat and was told it has a new engine fitted. Rung the guy that did the cambelt who confirms a new engine was fitted.

Does he have any comeback to the dealer? I told him not but thought I'd check first.

wolf1

3,100 posts

280 months

Monday 18th November 2013
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Comeback for what?

matt21

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4,400 posts

234 months

Monday 18th November 2013
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For not declaring engine swap.

P I Staker

3,308 posts

186 months

Monday 18th November 2013
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I would hate to buy a car with an engine with less miles then I thought it had on it, sounds terrible. I really sympathise with your friend OP.

AndyLB

428 posts

194 months

Monday 18th November 2013
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Other than the heating up issue is there anything else wrong with it?

If not, as before - no hope for redress over it having a new engine (if your friend isn't happy about that). Little hope for redress after a month on the thermostat issue (may have taken the thermostat out due to overheating, often a bodge remedy for a broken fan / water temperature switch) - especially as a dodgy dealer from home type person.

Unless the dealer specifically said "Has original engine fitted" then he hasn't misrepresented anything.

lbc

3,338 posts

247 months

Monday 18th November 2013
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Diesels don't heat up quickly, and especially so this time of year, so probably nothing wrong with it.

matt21

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4,400 posts

234 months

Monday 18th November 2013
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P I Staker said:
I would hate to buy a car with an engine with less miles then I thought it had on it, sounds terrible. I really sympathise with your friend OP.
He reckon it has 200k.....

TankRizzo

8,025 posts

223 months

Monday 18th November 2013
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matt21 said:
For not declaring engine swap.
Doesn't have to.

matt21

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234 months

Monday 18th November 2013
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TankRizzo said:
Doesn't have to.
As suspected...

Lowtimer

4,293 posts

198 months

Monday 18th November 2013
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I don't get it. What is he upset about? He's bought a car that is in a very significant respect much better than what he thought he was buying, with no downside whatsoever.

sandman77

3,407 posts

168 months

Monday 18th November 2013
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matt21 said:
He reckon it has 200k.....
What does? The replacement engine? What makes him think that?

matt21

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4,400 posts

234 months

Monday 18th November 2013
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My mistake. I meant new as in replacement.

TooLateForAName

4,933 posts

214 months

Monday 18th November 2013
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You're not being very clear.

What's the issue? Are you saying the car has done 200K but has a new engine and a lower mileage claimed?
Or a replacement used engine with huge miles? or...?

joewilliams

2,004 posts

231 months

Monday 18th November 2013
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matt21 said:
P I Staker said:
I would hate to buy a car with an engine with less miles then I thought it had on it, sounds terrible. I really sympathise with your friend OP.
He reckon it has 200k.....
Does he have any solid evidence that the engine fitted to the car has done significantly more miles or is in a substantially worse condition than the rest of the car?

DKS

1,917 posts

214 months

Monday 18th November 2013
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I think the point here is that the FSH is meaningless now it's got a totally unknown engine fitted.

matt21

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4,400 posts

234 months

Monday 18th November 2013
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Sorry folks, trying to rush type. Not been clear.

He has bought a Passat with 120k and FSH.

He then finds out it has had an engine change. The garage, who is independent in all this, states the seller provided car and sourced his own engine.

Based not the fact the car is pretty old, and that the seller sourced his own engine and didn't communicate it at sale implies, only implies, that it has equally had some use through its life.

The issue is that he bought a car in good faith with FSH, yet the engine is now a mystery. He has convinced himself it was sourced from a scrap yard off a high mileage car and the fact the thermostat doesn't work, cambelt off job, and vibration from the engine at 2.5k suggests it may not be the best example.

I do believe he has no come back but thought I'd bounce it off people. I've suggested he chalks it up to experience and gets a years use out of it.

backwoodsman

2,508 posts

159 months

Monday 18th November 2013
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TankRizzo said:
Doesn't have to.
Unless asked by the buyer.

JimmyConwayNW

3,653 posts

155 months

Monday 18th November 2013
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why would you mention that when trying to sell the car.

When buying privately its presumable to save a few quid, you get no comeback.

By all means pay a bit more and buy from a reputable (yes there are some) trader and you should have some form of comeback.

In this instance even if it were off a larger trader, I fail to see what they could do other than fix any issue within 3months.

bearman68

4,940 posts

162 months

Monday 18th November 2013
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Be aware as well that fitting an engine is a huge job, and easily, with the best will in the world entails a few teething troubles. Why not ask the dealer if he would be good enough to sort those teething troubles.

HustleRussell

26,581 posts

190 months

Monday 18th November 2013
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Your mate just wants peace of mind. A mechanic can perform basic checks on the engine quickly and cheaply to ascertain it's health. At the end of the day, a 200k mike engine can be better than a 40k one which has been abused/neglected.