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Pumajay

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1,072 posts

226 months

Monday 18th November 2013
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As of next year I'm hoping to start competing in the new series for the Ford Puma, I'm booking my ards test to gain the necessary licenses but I'm just wondering what's best to buy when it comes to race suits/helmet etc.

Is it worth checking eBay for a second hand bargain or does anyone have any recommendations for a cheaper option. I don't have £££'s to spend so I'm looking for good quality but on a tight budget.


spyderman8

1,748 posts

178 months

Monday 18th November 2013
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You can certainly buy a used suit off eBay (got my first one that way) but don't buy a helmet sight unseen - go to one of the better shops like GP Racewear at Silverstone and try them. Different makes suit different heads!

HustleRussell

26,036 posts

182 months

Monday 18th November 2013
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I wouldn't buy a used helmet full stop. Hedtec and V2 pro both have new, snell approved helmets for under £150.

Pumajay

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1,072 posts

226 months

Monday 18th November 2013
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Yeh I wouldn't buy a second hand helmet myself, I might have to have a look at those 2 and see if they fit me, I have a unusually large head....

NJH

3,021 posts

231 months

Monday 18th November 2013
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Never been but apparently the Autosport show is supposed to be good for all this stuff. I got my race suit from GPR when they had a clearance sale on, always worth checking when a sale is on especially given that unless one is doing test days you have about 4 to 5 months till it is all needed. Next time I will get one made to my measurements by someone like AWS.

If you're doing Puma Cup UK I may well be joining you at some point, talked to Alex a lot about this new series and now it has become sort of public knowledge its pretty clear there is a bit of a buzz around it.

SimonMason

31 posts

159 months

Monday 18th November 2013
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Agreed with advice given. Go to Autosport show to buy what you haven't found as a bargain on Ebay BUT always buy your helmet new and DO buy a balaclava to go with it. The helmet is, in my opinion the most valuable and important piece of your kit so make sure you buy the best (lightest and best made) you can possibly afford. It will last for years if you look after it so its an investment in your life NOT just a requirement to go racing.

Pumajay

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1,072 posts

226 months

Tuesday 19th November 2013
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NJH said:
If you're doing Puma Cup UK I may well be joining you at some point, talked to Alex a lot about this new series and now it has become sort of public knowledge its pretty clear there is a bit of a buzz around it.
Yeah, its the Puma Cup UK, ive been offered an opportunity to compete in a friends team that is being setup for next year and beyond.

Just trying to workout if i can do it

andy97

4,780 posts

244 months

Tuesday 19th November 2013
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"Plays-Kool" offer pretty decent products and prices for overalls, gloves and fire resistant balaclava/ T shirts/ socks etc for those on a budget.

http://www.plays-kool.co.uk/


NJH said:
If you're doing Puma Cup UK I may well be joining you at some point, talked to Alex a lot about this new series and now it has become sort of public knowledge its pretty clear there is a bit of a buzz around it.
Where are the details - I haven't seen anything in public about it.

Edited by andy97 on Tuesday 19th November 12:51

Pumajay

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1,072 posts

226 months

Tuesday 19th November 2013
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it hasnt gone public yet, i think its being announced at autosport show

andy97

4,780 posts

244 months

Tuesday 19th November 2013
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Also, seriously consider getting a HANS device. They are not cheap (although there are slightly less expensive versions available now) but they are well worth it in my view. I would not race without one, and just as important as the helmet.

As my wife said to me when I announced that I wanted to take up racing, "get a HANS or make sure that when you have an accident you die, because you will be terrible to live with as a quadraplegic!!!!"


simes43

196 posts

255 months

Tuesday 19th November 2013
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I separate my car/racing budget from my personal safety gear budget.

Autosport show will allow you to try on lots of gear and get a deal too.

Pumajay

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1,072 posts

226 months

Tuesday 19th November 2013
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andy97 said:
Also, seriously consider getting a HANS device. They are not cheap (although there are slightly less expensive versions available now) but they are well worth it in my view. I would not race without one, and just as important as the helmet.

As my wife said to me when I announced that I wanted to take up racing, "get a HANS or make sure that when you have an accident you die, because you will be terrible to live with as a quadraplegic!!!!"
thats one of the things i am going to be buying.

Will try and get a good deal on most of it at autosport... i'l be trying loads of gear on there to find something nice and comfy

anonymous-user

76 months

Thursday 21st November 2013
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I don't agree with lots of people on helmets, if a cheap one meets the standard and fits it's fine, the difference between expensive helmets and cheap helmets is the weight and in the quality of the lining straps etc, I admit that expensive helmets last longer, as you can remove the linings to wash etc and the straps don't fray, but if you change helmet out as you should then the life of linings etc is not the issue. All helmets are made of polystyrene, and Arial and Shoie polystyrene comes from the same chemical plant as the Chinese helmets. I use SQL helmets, made in Taiwan they fit me and their bike helmets meet DOT stds and their car ones meet FIA. I do however agree with the Hans, two weeks ago had off at around 80mph, hit another car hard enough to bruise my ribs even in a gel seat and a 6 point, I'm sure that without the Hans I'd have had some serious whiplash.

binnerboy

488 posts

172 months

Thursday 21st November 2013
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andy97 said:
"Plays-Kool" offer pretty decent products and prices for overalls, gloves and fire resistant balaclava/ T shirts/ socks etc for those on a budget.

http://www.plays-kool.co.uk/
I went to their stand and v2 and a couple of others at autosport this year. playskool said they would do the lot (helmet , suit, boots and gloves) for £500. the HANS helmet would have made it about £30 more so probably worth it. helmets met the relevant bluebook standards, i was looking at stuff for sprinting rather than circuit, not sure if there is much of a difference.

Go to autosport wander around for the day then in the last hour try to get a bargain

Pumajay

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1,072 posts

226 months

Thursday 21st November 2013
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well after much thought, ive decided 2014 isnt going to be my year and im focusing on hopefully getting out there for 2015.

Just have far too many other commitments for the next 12 months, wedding/house/holidays/new job.... just doesnt make sense to add racing to the list of expenses for the moment.

but thanks for the advice and im still planning on bagging a bargain at autosport!

unless of course some one wants to sponsor me.......

tapkaJohnD

2,000 posts

226 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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You could buy a race suit second hand, but you should have nomex underwear too, and buying that second hand? Lets just say, I wouldn't....
JOhn

norwichphoto

1,434 posts

246 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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The show prices at Autosport are usually negated by the car park and ticket price!

mollytherocker

14,396 posts

231 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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Pumajay said:
, I have a unusually large head....
You will fit in just fine.....

NJH

3,021 posts

231 months

Saturday 23rd November 2013
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PumaJay if you want to get out for 2015 and have never raced before then honestly IMHO you should get the car done and start driving it through next year. Best advice I ever read on this forum was from a guy who said to track and test and get instruction at one local track until you have mastered it then move on to other tracks and racing i.e. don't race in season 1 just get as much time as possible getting up to speed in your car. Just the experience of driving against the clock for anyone who hasn't done it before is enough of a challenge without everything else that goes on. I did the complete opposite and dived straight in, the car broke down 3 out of the first 3 and TBH it really did knock my confidence for six. Spent the past 3 seasons meandering about going nowhere really but I don't regret the experience I have gained. That experience tells me a methodical one step at a time approach would have been better and undoubtedly much cheaper.

Oilchange

9,526 posts

282 months

Saturday 23rd November 2013
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this is sense, I owned my car for 13 years and tracked it before racing it so I knew a lot about it, how it would handle, what could go wrong and how expensive etc but if I had a new car (to me) I would test and track day it to get up to speed. I make use of instruction whenever I can as a matter of course anyway, nothing is better for learning a new track really