Plane Crash - Fear of Flying on TV last night
Plane Crash - Fear of Flying on TV last night
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CAPP0

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232 months

Tuesday 19th November 2013
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C4 last night had a Fear of Flying programme following a number of people with abject fears of planes etc. We watched it as MrsC is similarly afflicted!

Anyway, they showed a nasty crash where the plane seemed to climb out at a ridiculous rate (it was head-on so slightly difficult to judge), stall at a few hundred feet and just slam into the ground and explode. Anyone know what, where and when that was?

Justin Cyder

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178 months

Tuesday 19th November 2013
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CAPP0

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Tuesday 19th November 2013
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That's the one, thanks!

I see, so the cargo moved - would explain it.


Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Tuesday 19th November 2013
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That was the speculation and the most likely explanation - although it's not been officially reported on yet.

If the programme was about fear of flying i.e. worries passengers might have travelling on airliners, then the crash of a freighter more than likely caused by a massive cargo shift seems rather inappropriate to the topic.

Piersman2

6,676 posts

228 months

Tuesday 19th November 2013
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Justin Cyder said:
Blimey, not gonna be walking away from that one!

coldsnap

867 posts

188 months

Tuesday 19th November 2013
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Eric Mc said:
That was the speculation and the most likely explanation - although it's not been officially reported on yet.

If the programme was about fear of flying i.e. worries passengers might have travelling on airliners, then the crash of a freighter more than likely caused by a massive cargo shift seems rather inappropriate to the topic.
Yes not sure why they showed that at all, terrified my OH who prior to that was OK with flying!

CAPP0

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Tuesday 19th November 2013
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Can only agree with that!

Also they showed some in-cabin footage of turbulence, OK, one event had the staff spilling drinks and having to brace the trolley, but another shot was just a few little bumps but shot from someone's handheld camera so it looked far worse.

I guess it was "entertainment" rather than a self-help therapy course!

Simpo Two

92,670 posts

294 months

Tuesday 19th November 2013
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It does show how a real phobia affects the human body - effectively out of control.

I know someone who won't fly - he either stays in the UK or takes a boat. Not sure if a true phobic or whether he just dislikes flying.

MitchT

17,114 posts

238 months

Tuesday 19th November 2013
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Some of the in-cabin footage of 'severe turbulence' that I've seen is laughable. The plane appears to be all over the place, then you notice someone's glass of water on the tray is barely moving and remember the time you flew through worse without the seatbelt light even coming on.

Munter

31,331 posts

270 months

Tuesday 19th November 2013
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It appeared to be an advert for the virgin fear of flying course.

Hence the lack of significant content about how to cope, but plenty on what scares people.

FurtiveFreddy

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266 months

Tuesday 19th November 2013
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Munter said:
It appeared to be an advert for the virgin fear of flying course.

Hence the lack of significant content about how to cope, but plenty on what scares people.
Indeed...

My OH, who has developed a bit of a flying phobia recently, commented on that clip of the cargo plane as well. They really could have mentioned the circumstances, at least.rolleyes

And bad turbulence is when you end up with your head hitting the overhead locker if you haven't fastened your belt biggrin


RobM77

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263 months

Tuesday 19th November 2013
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Munter said:
It appeared to be an advert for the virgin fear of flying course.

Hence the lack of significant content about how to cope, but plenty on what scares people.
London Zoo do a similar course on fear of spiders. It consists of an hour telling people why spiders are so interesting and how not that many are dangerous to humans, and then you have the chance to hold a spider afterwards. Equally, there are loads of people that'll take your money and teach you how to swim to 'remove your phobia of water'... Like the Virgin course, these sorts of courses will only cure people who don't actually have a phobia at all, just a bit of logical anxiety or fear due to lack of awareness (as in spiders or flying) or inability (as with the swimming); a phobia is something entirely different. These courses are marketed to desperate phobics as a cure, whereas actually they're nothing of the sort.

I'll get off my psychology soap box now!

FurtiveFreddy

8,577 posts

266 months

Tuesday 19th November 2013
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Hmmmmmm..... flying spiders eek

Justin Cyder

12,624 posts

178 months

Tuesday 19th November 2013
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My logical anxiety with flying is not the one moving part doing all the work, but the other 2000 moving parts supplying it. smile

marksx

5,174 posts

219 months

Tuesday 19th November 2013
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"Leave the seat belt light on. If everyone on the right hand side of the plane stood up at once then it would tip over and we would spiral to the ground"

Wow.

Dr Doofenshmirtz

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229 months

Tuesday 19th November 2013
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I turned over after about 20 minutes...I can't stand watching these stupid morons who get on TV.
That blond bimbo...surely if you have a fear of flying, you would wear clothing that would aid, not hinder your escape when the place crashes? i.e. not a tight dress. It's attention seeking, rather than fear.

Bradgate

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176 months

Tuesday 19th November 2013
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I agree that some of the women (who didn't seem very bright) seemed to be hamming it up for the cameras, but the big Scottish guy certainly wasn't. He was a grown man whimpering and crying like a terrified small child. It was hard to watch.

The thing I don't understand is how these silly people can see the unconcerned cabin crew calmly getting on with their work as normal, and yet still think there is some reason to be frightened confused

Simpo Two

92,670 posts

294 months

Tuesday 19th November 2013
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Bradgate said:
The thing I don't understand is how these silly people can see the unconcerned cabin crew calmly getting on with their work as normal, and yet still think there is some reason to be frightened confused
Because a phobia isn't rational.

The one happy point was the teacher, who had been a gibbering wreck during take-off, but after an intelligent chat with the captain had suddenly got it all worked out and seemed to be fine smile

pip t

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196 months

Tuesday 19th November 2013
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Bradgate said:
The thing I don't understand is how these silly people can see the unconcerned cabin crew calmly getting on with their work as normal, and yet still think there is some reason to be frightened confused
Because a true phobia has NOTHING whatsoever to do with logic or logical thought. It is an irrational fear. The fact that the cabin crew are calm and working reduces anxiety in people who are maybe a bit nervous, but that isn't a phobia.

Edit: apologies - Simpo Two got there first!

Simpo Two

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294 months

Tuesday 19th November 2013
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bowtie

It was interesting to see the way their brains 'rationalised' the normal behaviour of the others. It said 'These other people know they are going to die too but are playing it down so as not to upset me'. It's an answer that makes sense to their minds, but is not the right one. And that's mental illness.