RE: Mini Cooper D Clubvan: PH Fleet
RE: Mini Cooper D Clubvan: PH Fleet
Tuesday 19th November 2013

Mini Cooper D Clubvan: PH Fleet

Ex-Mini owner Garlick tries the van. It's good, but there are faults...



I don’t think I’ve written about the PH Mini since it arrived so rather than tell you what I’ve been doing with it (do you really want to hear about my commute?) or what I feel about the way it looks (pictures here for your perusal) I will concentrate on driving the thing, and whether I think it works as a proposition.

Vans aren't meant to be clean, right?
Vans aren't meant to be clean, right?
The Mini has been knocking around for a while now, but sometimes I leave it in favour of other cars; while the PH graphics are eye catching, you don’t exactly blend into the background. Making, ahem, progress has never been so visible. And that progress can be quite swift believe it or not thanks to the van enjoying, perhaps unsurprisingly, the same superb handling characteristics of Mini hatch. Not driven one yet? You should, even if only to surprise yourself.

A few years ago I ran a Mini Cooper S (turbo) with the aftermarket JCW tuning kit fitted. As some of you may remember I shunned the expected wheel upgrade from 17-inch to 18-inch, choosing instead to go for some Cooper (non S) 16-inch wheels on non-runflats instead.

It made for a fast little hatch with handling that outclassed cars costing much, much more. On tracks like Bedford Autodrome West I’d be hustling cars like 911 Turbos through the bends wishing I could get by (and bear in mind I am no hero driver) only for them to blast away on the straight and hold me up again at the next corner. Mini know how to make a good chassis and if you choose to base your opinions of its prowess based on looks you are depriving yourself of a fun car.

Garlick liked the S; he's a fan of this too
Garlick liked the S; he's a fan of this too
Digression aside my point is that the van is as much fun to drive as the hatch, even when fitted with the diesel engine. The torque it offers is enough to go with the flow (or beyond) and the steering and gearbox is as good as any hot hatch you care to name.

The interior is high-quality with all the kit you’d expect and not a creak or rattle from anywhere despite the open luggage compartment behind your head. Impressive, impressive enough for me to contemplate long motorway runs without issue.

But, none of this is a surprise as its more car than van. If I had to load boxes into it daily I’d want a higher load bay to save me ruining my back, I’d want a wider load bay, I’d want an interior that I could get dirty without guilt and I’d certainly want to pay less than £19,500 for the privilege of owning a fancy van.

Not subtle, even in the shade!
Not subtle, even in the shade!
It’s a good car, no, it’s a great car but you’d be better off with the increased visibility of a Clubman and dropping the seats occasionally should you wish to carry a load of any bulk. Or a (proper) van, if that is what you need.

I’ll stand up on a soapbox and sing the praises of the Mini range to anyone who will listen. I like driving the PH van too, but I can’t help but feel it’s flawed as a van unless loads are light, infrequent and clean. If you can run it as a tax break, specced to the hilt, that may be a different matter… especially if a turbo JCW became available. Now there’s a thought.  

 


Fact sheet:
Car:
 Mini Cooper D Clubvan
Run by: Everyone!
On fleet since: June 2013
Mileage: 6,908
List price new: £19,575.50 (Basic list of £14,275 +VAT plus £400 for Midnight Black paint, £1,700 for Media Pack, £55 for Storage Pack, £50 for space saver spare, £105 for leather two-spoke steering wheel, £60 for velour floor mats, £45 for warning triangle and first aid kit and £30 for front passenger airbag deactivation switch. All options prices inclusive of VAT.)
Last month at a glance: Garlick tries the Mini and returns singing its praises (mostly)


Previous reports:
It's a diesel van not a supercar but it has been hanging out with a few

Daily commuting duties reveal the Clubvan is still a Mini at heart

The PH Mini Clubvan is here and straight into the heart of our Le Mans field ops

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Discussion

drthomp82

5 posts

157 months

Tuesday 19th November 2013
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Having had a Cooper d clubman, I can agree totally with whats been said here. If you really want a mini van, then buy the car and rip the insides out!!!

dukebox9reg

Original Poster:

1,721 posts

178 months

Tuesday 19th November 2013
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Still reckon you should get it mapped or stick something like a DTUK box on it to give it more ooopmfh

dbanes

81 posts

307 months

Tuesday 19th November 2013
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BMW Sytner High Wycombe leant me one for a couple of days, local runs, a trip up the M40 to Birmingham and back and it was fun all the way, a bit of echo from the empty back end. Liked it so I've ordered the Cooper D for the business. I don't carry large or grubby loads but do need the VAT refund and BMW's lease came in 20% cheaper than via the banks!

Garlick

40,601 posts

270 months

Tuesday 19th November 2013
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dbanes said:
but do need the VAT refund and BMW's lease came in 20% cheaper than via the banks!
Indeed, as I mentioned I think that is the hook for this car van.

I don't notice the noise from the load bay myself but I do spend a lot of time in noisy cars so this seems nice and quiet

eybic

9,212 posts

204 months

Tuesday 19th November 2013
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When I've driven them I've liked them but as said, I'd probably go for the car option with the seats folded down to lug stuff about.

A JCW van would be awesome, I have suggested it but apparently it wouldn't be economically viable rolleyes

Turbobanana

8,476 posts

231 months

Tuesday 19th November 2013
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I love that you have to pay £55 for a "Storage Pack". In a van...

garypotter

2,073 posts

180 months

Tuesday 19th November 2013
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BMW mini appreciate that this will be sold to vat regd companies so they can charge nearlry £20 for it...

No thanks not for me, not even if I was vat regd

Crazy4557

712 posts

224 months

Tuesday 19th November 2013
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I've just ordered a Clubman in black with a few choice extra's as a runabout instead of using my F10 M5 everyday. Looking forward to an easy drive and judging by the comments a nicely refined one too. As I'm VAT registered it's a great company car sorry Van.

johnoz

1,149 posts

222 months

Wednesday 20th November 2013
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Crazy4557 said:
I've just ordered a Clubman in black with a few choice extra's as a runabout instead of using my F10 M5 everyday. Looking forward to an easy drive and judging by the comments a nicely refined one too. As I'm VAT registered it's a great company car sorry Van.
Clubman or Clubvan?

80quattro

1,821 posts

225 months

Wednesday 20th November 2013
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I read some stat recently about these, that Mini have sold these in very tiny numbers. I'm fairly sure its now out of production.

anonymous-user

84 months

Wednesday 20th November 2013
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Can you fit a mountain bike in the back of these? I am considering as a "tax break".

Garlick

40,601 posts

270 months

Wednesday 20th November 2013
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Dan has, but I think it's a front wheel out job.

anonymous-user

84 months

Wednesday 20th November 2013
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Garlick said:
Dan has, but I think it's a front wheel out job.
That's what I was expecting so that's no issue. I just can't find anyone near me who has one or a garage who has one.

Mark Smith

164 posts

249 months

Wednesday 20th November 2013
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The Mini garage at Two Mills Wirral has a Clubvan on the forecourt. It's in black and looks very nice if you like that sort of thing.

eybic

9,212 posts

204 months

Thursday 21st November 2013
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80quattro said:
I read some stat recently about these, that Mini have sold these in very tiny numbers. I'm fairly sure its now out of production.
They can still be ordered/built and current delivery for them is 4 weeks.

Clivey

5,695 posts

234 months

Sunday 24th November 2013
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My Dad's a driving instructor and uses Cooper D hatches as tuition vehicles (on his third now)…a fun car for anyone to learn to drive in that's for sure biggrin ...but the electric steering's not got the feel of the old hydraulic system from the R53 One D though.