Friend wrote off my car, need a valuation.
Friend wrote off my car, need a valuation.
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Big News

Original Poster:

1,937 posts

209 months

Tuesday 19th November 2013
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Hi all,

So about a year ago I lent a friend my old car - I'd just got a new one and didn't need it, whereas he's just moved to a new part of the country, had no job and no car. I decided that it would help him out with getting a job if he had a car.
Fast-forward a year, and I've got a call to say he's planted into a barrier and written it off.

He's been offered £90 for scrap for it, though I'd quite like some more because I'd given him a perfectly usable car, and he'd be returning some saucepans...! So, down to how much. Surely it would be fair if he gave me the market value of whatever the car was worth before he crashed it?

To that end, does anyone have a subscription to Glass's/Parker's etc who could run a quick valuation so I could provide hard 'evidence' of what it's worth. In my opinion it'd be worth £450 any day of the week, whereas he seems to think it was worth £250 tops. It's not a lot of money but I haven't got much of it...!

Any other suggestions?

It's a 1999 Ford Focus Zetec, 1.8, 5dr, Silver, 138,000 miles. Reg is T367OCF.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Ben

Monkeylegend

29,373 posts

261 months

Tuesday 19th November 2013
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Meet in the middle.

SrMoreno

546 posts

176 months

Tuesday 19th November 2013
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It's a bit of a cheek of your mate to haggle over the price of a car he's borrowed and written off. You could always tell him that you'll accept it back in the condition you gave it, if that's easier for him.

ajh38

902 posts

180 months

Tuesday 19th November 2013
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GG puts it at 650 from a dealer so yes, 450 sounds reasonable.

I would say that it's a choice between friendship and money here though.

norwichphoto

1,548 posts

254 months

Tuesday 19th November 2013
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Ebay 'sold' service shows 35 1999/2000 5dr 1800's with 100,000 miles plus, cheapest £ 150, most expensive £ 650. Average has got to be around £ 400, and he's had a years motoring in it.

Phil117

1,538 posts

169 months

Tuesday 19th November 2013
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Big News

Original Poster:

1,937 posts

209 months

Tuesday 19th November 2013
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Is that part-ex value?

mnkiboy

4,409 posts

196 months

Tuesday 19th November 2013
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Given that he's also had a years use of the tyres and had a years MOT from you (or did he pay for it?), i'd say £450 is a good price for the car.

What was the arrangement between you though - was he handing the car back at some point, or planning on paying for it when he had the money?

mikeyr

3,399 posts

223 months

Tuesday 19th November 2013
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Maybe a dumb question - but would his insurance not be getting involved?

iloveboost

1,531 posts

192 months

Tuesday 19th November 2013
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mikeyr said:
Maybe a dumb question - but would his insurance not be getting involved?
What I was thinkinh. You make it sounds like you've let your friend with no cash have a car and run it without insurance. If that's the case I don't know what to say.

Silver940

3,967 posts

257 months

Tuesday 19th November 2013
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I assume he's offering 250+ the 90 he's been offered for scrap?

or he could buy you a similar car and return that?

Dr Interceptor

8,183 posts

226 months

Tuesday 19th November 2013
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How much do you need the cash? To not lose a mate, I'd take the £100 and forget about it.

Big News

Original Poster:

1,937 posts

209 months

Tuesday 19th November 2013
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iloveboost said:
What I was thinkinh. You make it sounds like you've let your friend with no cash have a car and run it without insurance. If that's the case I don't know what to say.
Oh no obviously not, but he elected for a £500 excess (don't ask...) so there's no point getting insurance involved.

HustleRussell

26,581 posts

190 months

Tuesday 19th November 2013
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Dr Interceptor said:
How much do you need the cash? To not lose a mate, I'd take the £100 and forget about it.
Assuming it's a good mate. Even so, I'd feel a bit of a mug losing money because my trust was abused.

StottyZr

6,860 posts

193 months

Tuesday 19th November 2013
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I'd want £450 minimum to be honest.

You've lent him a car for an entire year, he's stuck it in a barrier and I get the impression he wants to give you scrap value and move on. Doesn't sound like a decent friend to me, if I were in his situation I'd be paying whatever you asked plus £50 and a beer.

HustleRussell

26,581 posts

190 months

Tuesday 19th November 2013
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Big News said:
Oh no obviously not, but he elected for a £500 excess (don't ask...) so there's no point getting insurance involved.
So £450 is £50 less than his stoopid excess... sounds like he's had a result- £500 is the minimum that an at-fault claim could've cost him.

SuperVM

1,098 posts

191 months

Tuesday 19th November 2013
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I assume he was happily borrowing the car and you weren't pressing for its return, in which case why don't you have him buy another car and use it for a while on the agreement he gives it to you once he has finished with it? Essentially, this new car would be yours and you'd be continuing to lend it to him.

They say you should never lend anything to a friend you expect to be returned. I think that's the best way to avoid causing hurt feelings in such matters, though it sounds as though you were just trying to be a good mate.

onesickpuppy

2,672 posts

187 months

Tuesday 19th November 2013
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OP, I think you maybe need to take his financial situation into account. Is £500 or so reasonably affordable to him at the moment? Otherwise, you could lose a mate over what might not be a lot of money to you.

Silver940

3,967 posts

257 months

Tuesday 19th November 2013
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Plenty of similar on Autotrader for 400-450 so I think you are looking for a fair price, he is taking the mick. Being generous £300+the scrap value I reckon.

mini1380cc

2,949 posts

201 months

Tuesday 19th November 2013
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How adamant is he that its worth £250? If he is hell bent on not stumping up more then how will you get the extra £200? If he is only willing to give you £250 I would say that's all you are getting. What is left of the friendship after that depends on how much you are willing to let go and how far he is willing to take advantage.