Losing My Job - Advice Needed
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I have just been told this morning that I will be out of a job at the end of December.
This is a huge blow as opportunities like this dont come around very often. I have worked my arse off over the last 4 1/2 months in a tough environment. Learned more in a short space of time than I have ever learned before. Pushed through several obstacles along the way. Ultimately, I just didnt have the experience or skills to make myself invaluable to this company. I was offered the job knowing that it was a huge step up but, perhaps naievely, thought it was too good to pass on.
We moved across the country for this job, away from friends and family, and put ourselves on the line to make it work.
I feel like the rug has been swept from under my feet and am truly gutted.
I am sitting here in my home office trying to think of what to do next. I have time on my side with regards to getting another job. Do I start looking straight away?
I have the option of sorting my customer estate out before passing on to the rest of the team, or, handing in my kit and buggering off. I hate to leave loose ends untied...do I make the transition smooth or just put it all behind me and let them pick up the pieces?
I have a car on finance that was being payed by the company...I wont be needing anything like this to get around over the next few months and, without a guaranteed income, cant afford to run it. I cant even afford a snotter at the moment after moving houses etc...how can I get rid of the car bearing in mind it wont be worth as much now as I payed for it.
Wife is being amazingly supportive at the moment but I know it will be tough on her too.
Bit of a rant but also genuinely looking for some advice, I just cant gather my thoughts.
This is a huge blow as opportunities like this dont come around very often. I have worked my arse off over the last 4 1/2 months in a tough environment. Learned more in a short space of time than I have ever learned before. Pushed through several obstacles along the way. Ultimately, I just didnt have the experience or skills to make myself invaluable to this company. I was offered the job knowing that it was a huge step up but, perhaps naievely, thought it was too good to pass on.
We moved across the country for this job, away from friends and family, and put ourselves on the line to make it work.
I feel like the rug has been swept from under my feet and am truly gutted.
I am sitting here in my home office trying to think of what to do next. I have time on my side with regards to getting another job. Do I start looking straight away?
I have the option of sorting my customer estate out before passing on to the rest of the team, or, handing in my kit and buggering off. I hate to leave loose ends untied...do I make the transition smooth or just put it all behind me and let them pick up the pieces?
I have a car on finance that was being payed by the company...I wont be needing anything like this to get around over the next few months and, without a guaranteed income, cant afford to run it. I cant even afford a snotter at the moment after moving houses etc...how can I get rid of the car bearing in mind it wont be worth as much now as I payed for it.
Wife is being amazingly supportive at the moment but I know it will be tough on her too.
Bit of a rant but also genuinely looking for some advice, I just cant gather my thoughts.
Without knowing what line you're in I can't comment on the market at the moment, and I can't help you with the car thing however...
- Might there be opportunities for you further afield in more temporary roles, contracting for instance?
- Could you do something on your own?
- Definitely start looking now. (If something comes up then you can use your 'bail out' card.)
- What about your clients? Could they use someone like you?
- Maybe time for a career change? Perhaps look at something else?
I was made redundant about 12 years ago six months after buying a house I could barely afford and three weeks before Christmas and it was the best thing that happened to me workwise. Now self employed and only looked back once when the market went a bit flat around the time my Son was born and got cold feet.
- Might there be opportunities for you further afield in more temporary roles, contracting for instance?
- Could you do something on your own?
- Definitely start looking now. (If something comes up then you can use your 'bail out' card.)
- What about your clients? Could they use someone like you?
- Maybe time for a career change? Perhaps look at something else?
I was made redundant about 12 years ago six months after buying a house I could barely afford and three weeks before Christmas and it was the best thing that happened to me workwise. Now self employed and only looked back once when the market went a bit flat around the time my Son was born and got cold feet.
My heart does go out to you OP - what a rubbish timing. Were you on a contract? Have you tried negotiating with your employer given your circumstance?
My advise is never burn bridges no matter how tempted you are. Words travel around quickly and you don't want any negative impact on future career prospects.
Start seeking employment now of course, worse case is to take temp Christmas jobs just to get the money coming in.
My advise is never burn bridges no matter how tempted you are. Words travel around quickly and you don't want any negative impact on future career prospects.
Start seeking employment now of course, worse case is to take temp Christmas jobs just to get the money coming in.
It depends on whether "sorting out your customer estate" involves you contacting the customers, in which case there may be scope you you maintaining contact after your departure or maybe even one of them offering you a job. I wouldn't storm off in a huff, because that wouldn't reflect well on you, but I would devote all your attentions to finding another job for yourself now.
You don't say where you've moved from, but if you're based in Hants then you're at least in the right part of the country for new jobs.
You don't say where you've moved from, but if you're based in Hants then you're at least in the right part of the country for new jobs.
Bluebarge said:
It depends on whether "sorting out your customer estate" involves you contacting the customers, in which case there may be scope you you maintaining contact after your departure or maybe even one of them offering you a job. I wouldn't storm off in a huff, because that wouldn't reflect well on you, but I would devote all your attentions to finding another job for yourself now.
You don't say where you've moved from, but if you're based in Hants then you're at least in the right part of the country for new jobs.
Alton, Hampshire.You don't say where you've moved from, but if you're based in Hants then you're at least in the right part of the country for new jobs.
I have no intention of being falmboyant and trying to come out with the bigger dick...never works out well.
Hadn't considered customers might be interested but then I have only been in the industry for a few months and havent had time to build properly useful relationships. I will ask around though
Put more effort into finding another job outside of work. I guess you're not going to get redundancy payout (unless they're very nice?) so if you found another job now, you're sorted and can jump ship without loss. BUT, don't do it at work at the expense of your current employer - they're still paying you to do a job and will be until you leave on your last day.
And chin up mate, there is always a light at the end of the tunnel. It's just sometimes quite a long tunnel, but it's there somewhere.
And chin up mate, there is always a light at the end of the tunnel. It's just sometimes quite a long tunnel, but it's there somewhere.
Don't burn your bridges, especially if it's a fairly specialist industry. I still regularly do work for customers I used to work for before taking redundancy from my previous employers so it pays to keep friendly with everyone, however don't let that stop you leaving early if you find another job.
There's a lot of potential in B.I. solution sales. SAP are a generalist and (IMHO) the only decent product in their portfolio is Business Object. Look at Oracle and IBM, both of whom have good B.I. Solution centres.
PS - I am just anti SAP, it's a personal thing!
PPS - I have been delivering B.I. solutions for over 25 years and count myself as an authority
PS - I am just anti SAP, it's a personal thing!
PPS - I have been delivering B.I. solutions for over 25 years and count myself as an authority
You mention the car on finance being paid by the company - I presume the contract is in your name and that you needed the car for your role.
Ask the company what they intend to do about that as I presume you would not have bought it but for the job - they certainly have some moral responsibility.
Ask the company what they intend to do about that as I presume you would not have bought it but for the job - they certainly have some moral responsibility.
Jonboy_t said:
BUT, don't do it at work at the expense of your current employer - they're still paying you to do a job and will be until you leave on your last day.
This will need clarifying by someone in the know, but I believe if they have told the OP he has lost his job then they need to be supportive in finding him another role. ie allowing time out for interviews etc.Puggit said:
Jonboy_t said:
BUT, don't do it at work at the expense of your current employer - they're still paying you to do a job and will be until you leave on your last day.
This will need clarifying by someone in the know, but I believe if they have told the OP he has lost his job then they need to be supportive in finding him another role. ie allowing time out for interviews etc.Thanks for the advice so far everyone, I am looking at job-boards at the moment to see what is out there.
Network Network network!
Get active on linkedin - market yourself for the job you want and not the job you have/had. Use linkedin daily to keep yourself high up in the search database (the more you use the higher you are). Get recommended, endorsed, etc....
Contact recruitment consultants ASAP and get yourself visible - make sure everyone and their dog knows your available and you're a benefit to their business.
Remember - STAR - Situation, Timing, Achievements, Results. Everything you put on linkedin, your CV and what you say should loosely follow STAR.
"In a difficult market with reduced budgets I was tasked with improving performance in record time. I motivated the team, brought in new and creative consultants, lead a totally new approach that resulted in overachieving by x%"
Don't bother with monster jobs and the other crap - direct approach with bespoke CV's and cover letters. 75% of jobs are not advertised!
Big yourself up because no-one else is going to do it for you.
Don't be down - Youre new full time job is finding a job - no excuses. Its your responsibility and no-one will do it for you. The harder you work the more success you will have!
Best of luck!
Get active on linkedin - market yourself for the job you want and not the job you have/had. Use linkedin daily to keep yourself high up in the search database (the more you use the higher you are). Get recommended, endorsed, etc....
Contact recruitment consultants ASAP and get yourself visible - make sure everyone and their dog knows your available and you're a benefit to their business.
Remember - STAR - Situation, Timing, Achievements, Results. Everything you put on linkedin, your CV and what you say should loosely follow STAR.
"In a difficult market with reduced budgets I was tasked with improving performance in record time. I motivated the team, brought in new and creative consultants, lead a totally new approach that resulted in overachieving by x%"
Don't bother with monster jobs and the other crap - direct approach with bespoke CV's and cover letters. 75% of jobs are not advertised!
Big yourself up because no-one else is going to do it for you.
Don't be down - Youre new full time job is finding a job - no excuses. Its your responsibility and no-one will do it for you. The harder you work the more success you will have!
Best of luck!
elanfan said:
You mention the car on finance being paid by the company - I presume the contract is in your name and that you needed the car for your role.
Ask the company what they intend to do about that as I presume you would not have bought it but for the job - they certainly have some moral responsibility.
This. I left a job last summer having bought a car to visit a new site a looong way away at least once a week. It was definitely a bargaining point for my leaving arrangements.Ask the company what they intend to do about that as I presume you would not have bought it but for the job - they certainly have some moral responsibility.
Oh, and download the free version of QlikView. If you know BO it's dead simple, get some of the samples on the support forum and analyse them. Lots of work on QV out there.
dazzztay said:
Network Network network!
Get active on linkedin - market yourself for the job you want and not the job you have/had. Use linkedin daily to keep yourself high up in the search database (the more you use the higher you are). Get recommended, endorsed, etc....
Contact recruitment consultants ASAP and get yourself visible - make sure everyone and their dog knows your available and you're a benefit to their business.
Remember - STAR - Situation, Timing, Achievements, Results. Everything you put on linkedin, your CV and what you say should loosely follow STAR.
"In a difficult market with reduced budgets I was tasked with improving performance in record time. I motivated the team, brought in new and creative consultants, lead a totally new approach that resulted in overachieving by x%"
Don't bother with monster jobs and the other crap - direct approach with bespoke CV's and cover letters. 75% of jobs are not advertised!
Big yourself up because no-one else is going to do it for you.
Don't be down - Youre new full time job is finding a job - no excuses. Its your responsibility and no-one will do it for you. The harder you work the more success you will have!
Best of luck!
^^^ what he said ^^^Get active on linkedin - market yourself for the job you want and not the job you have/had. Use linkedin daily to keep yourself high up in the search database (the more you use the higher you are). Get recommended, endorsed, etc....
Contact recruitment consultants ASAP and get yourself visible - make sure everyone and their dog knows your available and you're a benefit to their business.
Remember - STAR - Situation, Timing, Achievements, Results. Everything you put on linkedin, your CV and what you say should loosely follow STAR.
"In a difficult market with reduced budgets I was tasked with improving performance in record time. I motivated the team, brought in new and creative consultants, lead a totally new approach that resulted in overachieving by x%"
Don't bother with monster jobs and the other crap - direct approach with bespoke CV's and cover letters. 75% of jobs are not advertised!
Big yourself up because no-one else is going to do it for you.
Don't be down - Youre new full time job is finding a job - no excuses. Its your responsibility and no-one will do it for you. The harder you work the more success you will have!
Best of luck!
Linkedin can be a real godsend too.
mr_spock said:
Oh, and download the free version of QlikView. If you know BO it's dead simple, get some of the samples on the support forum and analyse them. Lots of work on QV out there.
Or if you're good at software sales, QilkView could probably use you. Their sales/demo people don't have the greatest people/sales skills, certainly not the ones I've met (sorry if there's any on here). They're recuiting for sales positions in Winnersh which wouldn't be the most horrific commute. Implemented properly, it's a nice concept and product.Gassing Station | Jobs & Employment Matters | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff