3rd gen toyota hilux surf 3.0 tdi
Discussion
Been looking to buy something I want to drive as opposed to being sensible and boring.
I've been looking at vans - really enjoy driving position and size of boot for when I transport crap about - but insurance is nearly double what I pay now.
I've always fancied a 4x4 but nothing particularly stood out to me except the old ones like the hilux surf.
From what I've read they're bullet proof, gen 3's are the one to aim for and they're good both on and off road. Insurance is cheap aswell.
Which is better auto or manual?
What's real world mpg like? I'm used to 50mpg but my miles are low as you'll read below.
I currently do 20-40 personal miles and maybe 60-100 work miles at the moment, chances are that won't increase.
Will it survive short journeys? It's normally 16 mile round trip to shopper market.
What to look out for on them? Will probably be around 100k on clock as looking to spend sub £4k but have up to £7k ish
I've been looking at vans - really enjoy driving position and size of boot for when I transport crap about - but insurance is nearly double what I pay now.
I've always fancied a 4x4 but nothing particularly stood out to me except the old ones like the hilux surf.
From what I've read they're bullet proof, gen 3's are the one to aim for and they're good both on and off road. Insurance is cheap aswell.
Which is better auto or manual?
What's real world mpg like? I'm used to 50mpg but my miles are low as you'll read below.
I currently do 20-40 personal miles and maybe 60-100 work miles at the moment, chances are that won't increase.
Will it survive short journeys? It's normally 16 mile round trip to shopper market.
What to look out for on them? Will probably be around 100k on clock as looking to spend sub £4k but have up to £7k ish
smiffy180 said:
Is there any reason to avoid one that's had a suspension lift or anything?
As long as its done properly it shouldn't be a problem.Some of the 3.0td (non-intercooled) motors have a bit of a reputation for doing head gaskets/heads, but certainly nowhere near as bad as the old 2.4td - AFAIK its mostly a maintenance issue with the 3.0, the cooling system needs to be kept in good order.
GravelBen said:
As long as its done properly it shouldn't be a problem.
Some of the 3.0td (non-intercooled) motors have a bit of a reputation for doing head gaskets/heads, but certainly nowhere near as bad as the old 2.4td - AFAIK its mostly a maintenance issue with the 3.0, the cooling system needs to be kept in good order.
To be honest I was going to get as late as possible and possibly look at uprated intercooler, exhaust and filter depending on price. Some of the 3.0td (non-intercooled) motors have a bit of a reputation for doing head gaskets/heads, but certainly nowhere near as bad as the old 2.4td - AFAIK its mostly a maintenance issue with the 3.0, the cooling system needs to be kept in good order.
I know the 2.4 is to avoid, is it gen 2 3.0 that has cooling issues?
smiffy180 said:
JM said:
Good call, apparently on par if not better on fuel than diesel? Seems strange. Also quite fancy the 3.4 now you've pointed out a petrol!

But if there's a bigger petrol I'd probably want that if possible too.
JM said:
I had to have a look at them on Ebay after your initial post, the petrol stood out to me.
But if there's a bigger petrol I'd probably want that if possible too.
Only slight problem I have is wbac will only give £3.5k for my car when it's worth £6k easy! Might be able to get them to hold it with a deposit whilst i try a quick sale But if there's a bigger petrol I'd probably want that if possible too.

JM said:
I suppose it depends on why they are selling, if they need the cash quick too. 
But worth a try.
If it's there in about 2 weeks max I should be able to buy it out right but then I'll have 2 cars and will need both insured unless I take one off the road in the garden? 
But worth a try.

Need a drive

smiffy180 said:
JM said:
I suppose it depends on why they are selling, if they need the cash quick too. 
But worth a try.
If it's there in about 2 weeks max I should be able to buy it out right but then I'll have 2 cars and will need both insured unless I take one off the road in the garden? 
But worth a try.

Need a drive

I usually end up with 2 or none when changing.
Though having said that I also have a work vehicle as well, so actually it's usually 3 or 1 when getting a 'new' car.

JM said:
Just part of the hassle of buying and selling privately.
I usually end up with 2 or none when changing.
Though having said that I also have a work vehicle as well, so actually it's usually 3 or 1 when getting a 'new' car.

I usually end up with 2 or none when changing.
Though having said that I also have a work vehicle as well, so actually it's usually 3 or 1 when getting a 'new' car.

lucky git.If I had a work car it would make this twice as easy!
.smiffy180 said:
GravelBen said:
Some of the 3.0td (non-intercooled) motors have a bit of a reputation for doing head gaskets/heads, but certainly nowhere near as bad as the old 2.4td - AFAIK its mostly a maintenance issue with the 3.0, the cooling system needs to be kept in good order.
To be honest I was going to get as late as possible and possibly look at uprated intercooler, exhaust and filter depending on price. I know the 2.4 is to avoid, is it gen 2 3.0 that has cooling issues?
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