Dealers not bothered about selling
Dealers not bothered about selling
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genericguy

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243 posts

206 months

Sunday 24th November 2013
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I know this comes up all the time but boggles my mind.
Car I fancied on Autotrader, older car so quite cheap (<£4k)but this particular one is the second most expensive one on AT.
Was an option to mail the dealer so did this last night, wouldn't have minded if I hadn't got a response until Monday (I know I'm obviously a bit weird wanting to view cars at the weekend rather than taking a day off) but had a reply this morning asking when I want to view. Mailed him asking if he did viewing today, he said yes, said he wasn't around all day but when did I fancy. Mailed him back and heard nothing.
Thought I'd give him a call and he was absolutely hopeless, explained I was the chap who'd emailed but thought I'd call as no response to last email and he got arsey saying "he was outside not sat in front of his computer all day" (he mailed me from his ipad originally fwiw).
Fair enough, except perhaps in this situation he could have called me on the number I filled in on my original email rather than send an email? (FWIW I had tried to call him yesterday but no answer or voicemail). Then when I asked if there was any time today that would be convenient he just ummed and aahed then said it would be better for both of us if I came over during the week. It wouldn't be better for me.
Genuinely baffles me, if you don't want to sell cars on a Sunday why not ignore the email until Monday, or reply saying you're only open Monday-Friday?


connell757

19 posts

156 months

Sunday 24th November 2013
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Sounds more like a trader than a dealer... Still not great for business i'd imagine.

chr15b

3,467 posts

220 months

Sunday 24th November 2013
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Buy a different one. If he's like this over replying and viewing, whats he going to be like if the engine falls out as you drive away?

JimmyConwayNW

3,648 posts

155 months

Sunday 24th November 2013
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Never understood car dealerships that want to close on a Sunday. Does not make good sense to me.

If that was me and you had emailed I would have been inclined to call you, have a chat about the car and get you to come Down at he earliest opportunity.

nammynake

2,658 posts

203 months

Sunday 24th November 2013
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Nude Model said:
Cool starry bra
Original AND funny. Please keep these gems coming.

blearyeyedboy

6,811 posts

209 months

Sunday 24th November 2013
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Think of it this way: For a lot of people, the person you buy from gives you confidence in the product you're buying... or not.

If he's not too bothered about the image he's projecting, some people would use that as a "soft" indicator that the car they've got is more likely to give you trouble... or if you have trouble, he's going to be less useful to you in trying to sort it out. (Not everyone would agree with me, to be fair.)

If I felt the same way as you did after speaking to a dealer, I'd be grateful for dodging a potential lemon and deal with someone who wants my business, unless what they had was very rare/desirable/at an exceptional price/had something very specific or desirable that appealed to me.

genericguy

Original Poster:

243 posts

206 months

Sunday 24th November 2013
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Car looked good but not so perfect I'd be sad to miss out on it.
Absolutely agree with what others have said though, £4k is a very big deal for me (I realise most PHers have more than that in the change pot in their 335d though wink) and I'll be damned if I'll give it to someone who isn't willing to make a token effort at least.
If you can't manage decent customer service as a dealer than you'd have to have very rare stock or very cheap prices, neither of which apply to this chap.

9mm

3,128 posts

240 months

Sunday 24th November 2013
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He could also be loaded, thick, or both. It's par for course, don't worry about it.

corozin

2,680 posts

301 months

Sunday 24th November 2013
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Just take your business elsewhere, and tell him so.

Strangely the market has a way of fixing these problems itself. If this guy is like this all the time he'll be out of business fairly quickly - there are far too many traders out there competing for bad ones to survive.

Blue Oval84

5,396 posts

191 months

Sunday 24th November 2013
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JimmyConwayNW said:
Never understood car dealerships that want to close on a Sunday. Does not make good sense to me.
Because sales on a Sunday aren't as good as you'd imagine (well they certainly weren't when I did it) Many days it wasn't worth our electricity bill, never mind the wages from what I remember!

rallycross

13,757 posts

267 months

Sunday 24th November 2013
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Maybe Sunday is his only day off from viewings ?
How many days of the week do you have off?
Maybe he wants to have one day off this week?
Also it could be that Sundays brings out the time wasters (no not you but in general).
Or it could just be he is a useless dealer, at least he replied to your email

What are you looking to buy?

Negative Creep

26,106 posts

257 months

Sunday 24th November 2013
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Blue Oval84 said:
JimmyConwayNW said:
Never understood car dealerships that want to close on a Sunday. Does not make good sense to me.
Because sales on a Sunday aren't as good as you'd imagine (well they certainly weren't when I did it) Many days it wasn't worth our electricity bill, never mind the wages from what I remember!
How dare they have an actual day off to spend with their families!? They should be open 24/7 to take my calls

genericguy

Original Poster:

243 posts

206 months

Sunday 24th November 2013
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Blue Oval84 said:
Because sales on a Sunday aren't as good as you'd imagine (well they certainly weren't when I did it) Many days it wasn't worth our electricity bill, never mind the wages from what I remember!
Bit chicken and egg that though isn't it.
If lots of dealers don't open on a Sunday then people won't expect any of them to be open and won't tend to car shop then.

I can understand people wanting days off but maybe they've chosen the wrong industry? I'm sure some people will happily take days off work to view cars or work shifts but the vast majority of people would like to go and view cars in their free time, so this means you might have to be a bit flexible.
Bit like a bouncer saying they'd rather not work nights!

Did think this one had been around a bit longer than the others I saw, put this down to price but maybe he's not letting anyone see it laugh

genericguy

Original Poster:

243 posts

206 months

Sunday 24th November 2013
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Oh, and I'm happy to say what car it is but don't want to get a smack for contravening name and shame rules?
Am I OK to mention it?

surveyor

18,695 posts

214 months

Sunday 24th November 2013
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Perhaps he did not like the sound of you?

It happens, or your email was worded in such a way that he thinks you probably won't buy the car anyway.

Plus it's Sunday and he wants the day off.

confused_buyer

7,130 posts

211 months

Sunday 24th November 2013
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95% of people who look at cars on a Sunday are just bored people who won't make a decision anyway.

The most valued people are those who make an appointment during normal working hours in the week, sometimes having taken some time off work and often travelled some distance. They're usually serious and frequently want to drive off in the new car right away.

If someone really wants to buy a car and you're not about on a Sunday, they'll make time to see it later in the week.

Many dealers have found the costs of opening on a Sunday outweight the revenue so it is a straight business decision.

steve singh

3,995 posts

203 months

Sunday 24th November 2013
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confused_buyer said:
95% of people who look at cars on a Sunday are just bored people who won't make a decision anyway.

The most valued people are those who make an appointment during normal working hours in the week, sometimes having taken some time off work and often travelled some distance. They're usually serious and frequently want to drive off in the new car right away.

If someone really wants to buy a car and you're not about on a Sunday, they'll make time to see it later in the week.

Many dealers have found the costs of opening on a Sunday outweight the revenue so it is a straight business decision.
This is what I would have assumed also.

Blue Oval84

5,396 posts

191 months

Sunday 24th November 2013
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genericguy said:
Bit chicken and egg that though isn't it.
If lots of dealers don't open on a Sunday then people won't expect any of them to be open and won't tend to car shop then.

I can understand people wanting days off but maybe they've chosen the wrong industry? I'm sure some people will happily take days off work to view cars or work shifts but the vast majority of people would like to go and view cars in their free time, so this means you might have to be a bit flexible.
Bit like a bouncer saying they'd rather not work nights!

Did think this one had been around a bit longer than the others I saw, put this down to price but maybe he's not letting anyone see it laugh
Well we were always open Sundays, as were most of the other main dealers in town, however, not many people go buying cars on a Sunday so we were always dead.

If I ran a small operation, I'd probably not bother opening.

JimmyConwayNW

3,648 posts

155 months

Sunday 24th November 2013
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I sell a few cars on Sunday I generally work 7days I just take the odd few hours off here and there as and when required. If I were to close I would probably close on a Monday or Tuesday.


GrizzlyBear

1,108 posts

165 months

Sunday 24th November 2013
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JimmyConwayNW said:
I sell a few cars on Sunday I generally work 7days I just take the odd few hours off here and there as and when required. If I were to close I would probably close on a Monday or Tuesday.
This makes sense, I was thinking that since most of us work 9-5 (if we are lucky), why do so many close on the weekend, it looks like they are just rejecting customers at the one time we can get to look for things we need, I know they want their weekend too, but for most it would seem better to take the 2 days off during the week. I would not object if I could work on the weekend and take 2 days off during the week (when all the shops, banks etc are all open).