Ulysse nardin on ebay ....kosher??
Ulysse nardin on ebay ....kosher??
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Sir Snaz

Original Poster:

571 posts

217 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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Hi chaps ......just seen this on the bay (mods please remove links if it breaks the rules )

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ulysse-nardin-sonata-cat...

a quick google search shows these things retailing for around £30k ??

do we think hooky?

snaz

toohuge

3,501 posts

247 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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Cash on collection not available.....

The photographs look ok, but I imagine you'll receive a different watch if you win the auction.

Furthermore, the sonata is a very complex watch. You'd not want to buy one sight unseen unless from a very reputable dealer/seller as the sevicing costs for one of these can be astronomical.

I'd avoid if I were you.

Chris

Dominic H

3,289 posts

263 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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Peter,

Looking at the sellers' insistence of payment in full by Paypal prior to dispatch. I wouldn't be too convinced that I would be getting the watch shown in the images. It looks like the script and probably the images have at some point been copied from eBay US, as we don't use the term '18k white gold' in the UK, we use the term '18ct white gold'.

In short, you'd be daft buying this watch unseen from a seller who's only ever sold a pair of shoes for £11. Sure, you may have some redress with Paypal once the goods aren't as described (though this is limited I think). If it looks too good to be true, then it certainly is.

Could be wrong.......

D

PS. How's the Portuguese? wink

Sir Snaz

Original Poster:

571 posts

217 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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just what I thought smile ....far too good to be true! ..... still wearing the portuguese every day Mr H cool ..... it must be due a service at some point ......

blindswelledrat

25,257 posts

263 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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fraudster said:
SALES TERMS
Payment required immediately after auction ends through PayPal !!!
I'll dispatch the item as soon as the payment is cleared through a reputable delivery company, insured and track able
Cash on Collection is NOT an option !!!
Bidders with less than 5 feedback contact me prior to bid

PLEASE DON'T BID IF YOU DISAGREE THE SALES TERMS
I wouldn't even gamble a tenner on it.

PJ S

10,842 posts

258 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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The images used are not showing up elsewhere, which is normally a good sign.
His user avatar is the same – not one of someone's facebook photos resized.
The concern is that all his purchases have been private, by the looks of it – no description of the items.

If I were seriously interested, I'd be demanding a contact number to have a chat.
Details of where and when the watch was purchased, and if abroad (so unable to contact the AD) then a letter of authenticity.
But even before that, I'd request a photo of the watch with his username and ebay listing number written on paper – I'd want the rear showing the movement and rotor.

Dominic H

3,289 posts

263 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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All very sensible PJS. But for a very high value item, from a seller with a piss poor description and no selling history, I'd be cash on collection only. Anything else and you are just taking one big, fat punt....

PJ S

10,842 posts

258 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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Agreed, obviously depending on the final price.
If sub £2K, and everything above being met, then no problem with posting.
If a much higher selling price, then absolutely a face-face meeting with bankers draft and a flight/long drive to his locale.

All said and done, it does smack of being too good to be true – so if it is, then it's obvious the chap has put a considerable bit more effort into his scam than is typically the norm.
Reported anyway, with a link to this thread, so it'll be up to eBay to decide if the listing stands or goes due to being a bit fishy.