Does my car have full service history if...
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So that service should have included a spark plug change but it wasn't done at your request? So part of the service was not done? But the book was still stamped and the service indicator extinguished?
How can you have a full service history then, other than having all the stamps?
So a car that's due new plugs every 20k say. You sell at 21k and the new owner thinks he got new plugs a thousand miles ago. But he didn't? Not the end of the world I guess.
How can you have a full service history then, other than having all the stamps?
So a car that's due new plugs every 20k say. You sell at 21k and the new owner thinks he got new plugs a thousand miles ago. But he didn't? Not the end of the world I guess.
No, the book wasn't stamped as an inspection service, just an oil and filter service. So there is no incorrect information in the book, it's just that a different type of service was carried out to the one recommended. You would only notice this if you knew the exact service schedule the car was supposed to have, and it's pretty confusing to work out. I'm just trying to decide how i should advertise it.
Depends how literally a prospective buyer interprets the term.
By the letter of the maintenance schedule of your vehicle, it has not been "fully serviced" according to the manufacturer's recommendations.
But, you do have available for inspection a complete record with supporting documents of all servicing work the vehicle has ever received. That's better than 90% of times the "FSH" label is applied, privately or by trade sellers, so I wouldn't consider you a particularly disingenuous vendor.
I would however question why you didn't bother servicing the vehicle as per the manufacturer's recommended schedule. To "save" the cost of a set of plugs and bit of labour? To subsequently only spend the same or greater later on through a less than optimally efficient engine, costing you more in fuel consumption and potentially increasing wear on other components, reducing longer term longevity/reliability of the engine.
For example, the old Oil Service, Insp 1, Oil Service, Insp 2 regime on BMWs, I wouldn't consider a car that had just oil service stamps from BMW to have a FBMWSH. It would mean additional inspection items (Insp 2 often features a change of gearbox and diff oil, given that only occured every ~60k miles, it's a lot of extra wear and tear if not carried out). Things like Running In Service skipped on M cars is a huge problem if you're aware what actually happens at that service, sufficiently so to render a car missing that stamp unsellable within the trade, at any price, let alone a significantly reduced one over the same car with the stamp.
So if a future potential buyer of your car is just happy to see a bunch of Audi stamps at the right dates and mileages, then you likely won't have an issue. If you get someone a bit more critical, they might decide not to buy your car at all for that reason. But somebody will.
By the letter of the maintenance schedule of your vehicle, it has not been "fully serviced" according to the manufacturer's recommendations.
But, you do have available for inspection a complete record with supporting documents of all servicing work the vehicle has ever received. That's better than 90% of times the "FSH" label is applied, privately or by trade sellers, so I wouldn't consider you a particularly disingenuous vendor.
I would however question why you didn't bother servicing the vehicle as per the manufacturer's recommended schedule. To "save" the cost of a set of plugs and bit of labour? To subsequently only spend the same or greater later on through a less than optimally efficient engine, costing you more in fuel consumption and potentially increasing wear on other components, reducing longer term longevity/reliability of the engine.
For example, the old Oil Service, Insp 1, Oil Service, Insp 2 regime on BMWs, I wouldn't consider a car that had just oil service stamps from BMW to have a FBMWSH. It would mean additional inspection items (Insp 2 often features a change of gearbox and diff oil, given that only occured every ~60k miles, it's a lot of extra wear and tear if not carried out). Things like Running In Service skipped on M cars is a huge problem if you're aware what actually happens at that service, sufficiently so to render a car missing that stamp unsellable within the trade, at any price, let alone a significantly reduced one over the same car with the stamp.
So if a future potential buyer of your car is just happy to see a bunch of Audi stamps at the right dates and mileages, then you likely won't have an issue. If you get someone a bit more critical, they might decide not to buy your car at all for that reason. But somebody will.
sting3r70 said:
No, the book wasn't stamped as an inspection service, just an oil and filter service. So there is no incorrect information in the book, it's just that a different type of service was carried out to the one recommended. You would only notice this if you knew the exact service schedule the car was supposed to have, and it's pretty confusing to work out. I'm just trying to decide how i should advertise it.
It's not FSH, I'd advertise it with very good service history.Thanks for that, good reply. I decided not to pay for the full inspection service as it was over double the price and when i asked what i was paying for, all they could give me was spark plugs. So i declined but went through with the service to maintain the Audi stamps/history. I figured i could get the plugs done later by an independant or do them myself a lot cheaper, as it was i never bothered as i only do 5000 a year anyway.
nonuts said:
Do you mean it's a BMW and you skipped an inspection 1 / 2? If so there is no way you have a full service history, there are a lot of things that need doing on top of oil and filter.
Things that need doing or things that need "checking" ?i had my E36 BMW with full BMWSh until around 130000 miles when at the first independent service after that they pointed out that the fuel filter was the original one complete with date of manufacture ie never been replaced although been invoiced for it several times over the years. Always wondered if they actually "check" all the things they are meant to.
edit - I suddenly remembered that BMW main dealers always "check" the condition of the tyre tread depth so they can try sell you new ones. Told my sister she definitely needed 4 new run flats but when I queried it and popped over to check myself - in that 20 minute interval they re- checked and it ws down to only one tyre that was worn unevenly and 3 mm depth. Thank goodness I double checked their "checking"
Edited by arguti on Monday 2nd December 09:19
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