Saab is back...ish
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Art0ir

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9,423 posts

200 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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Article said:
The carmaker will restart production of its 9-3 sedan model at its Trollhattan factory in western Sweden.

The firm will initially make a petrol-powered version of the car with the aim of launching an electric version later.

However, Mr Oestlund said that initial production would be modest.

"We don't want to make promises or forecasts we don't know we can fulfil," he said.

"We are humble and say we'll start the production volume with low figures and be able to increase over time according to the market's demand."
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Kenny Powers

2,618 posts

157 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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Great news. Good luck to them!

Although I've always felt that their problems lied in charging premium prices for mainstream products. Unfortunately a necessity of medium to low volume production.

I hope they can make this work though.

Art0ir

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9,423 posts

200 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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I wonder if many will risk buying one after what happened to residuals when they last went.

Disco You

3,749 posts

210 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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A somewhat old stock image on that BBC article eh?

dave7692

683 posts

159 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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Glad to see them back but surely in terms of something that will get the revenue rolling in regularly again they'd be best off starting with a Diesel?

I know its boring but at the moment its what sells, especially to the sort of target market the 9-3 would appeal to.

bakerstreet

5,050 posts

195 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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As a previous Saab owner, I'm pleased to see that production is starting up agai9n.

Is this to get rid of the stock they had before production stopped?

Although the latest version of the 93 is an amazing looking car, its underpinnings are fairly dated now.


joebongo

1,517 posts

205 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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Make it rwd and return to aeronautic influence in cockpit design and user interface and they will have a winner.

Keep it as a GM clone fwd box and it will do a Rover I fear.

StuntmanMike

15,121 posts

181 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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This is good news.

LuS1fer

43,535 posts

275 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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joebongo said:
Make it rwd and return to aeronautic influence in cockpit design and user interface and they will have a winner.

Keep it as a GM clone fwd box and it will do a Rover I fear.
Saabs have always been front wheel drive though.
The engine they used was a derivation of the Triumph 4 cylinder.

I can't say that a Vectra based car has me reaching for the cheque book. Surely the 9-5 at a bargain price was a better bet?

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

276 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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I hope it's a lot more successful than the re-start of MG production at Longbridge!

saaby93

32,038 posts

208 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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joebongo said:
Make it rwd and return to aeronautic influence in cockpit design and user interface and they will have a winner.

Keep it as a GM clone fwd box and it will do a Rover I fear.
Is FWD or RWD better in snow?
wikipedia guess how many pages mention FWD or RWD
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_Automobile


Apache

39,731 posts

314 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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LuS1fer said:
Saabs have always been front wheel drive though.
The engine they used was a derivation of the Triumph 4 cylinder.

I can't say that a Vectra based car has me reaching for the cheque book. Surely the 9-5 at a bargain price was a better bet?
Although it was a Triumph design, Saab actually used the engine first, which was a surprise to me and phased out in 1981 by Saab

to quote Ed Abbott..."The old ‘9-5’, whilst claimed by many pundits to be ‘all GM’, was infact 90% Saab and the 10% that was originally GM was subsequently modified by Saab to be unique to Saab." I( don't think the current 9-3s have anything to connect them with the Vectra

AnorakUK

91 posts

258 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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Hmm not convinced
As already suggested there wasn't a lot special about the 9-3 GM derivative, the 2nd gen roots being in 2002 I believe.
From a cynical standpoint, If I owned a 9-3 now I'd be perhaps more concerned that this could be a parts bin assembly exercise that could cause issues with spares availability. Bit like MG, the thought of flogging a dead horse comes to mind.

k-ink

9,070 posts

209 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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Shame they did not come back with an all new car. Keep it Swedish, individual, go back to proper high quality, ditch the GM tat.


ImpossiblyDaft

399 posts

211 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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dave7692 said:
Glad to see them back but surely in terms of something that will get the revenue rolling in regularly again they'd be best off starting with a Diesel?

I know its boring but at the moment its what sells, especially to the sort of target market the 9-3 would appeal to.
From what I've read they have a large batch of the petrol engines that have been sitting around. The diesel would require sorting out a supply. Also, these cars are for China and Sweden. I don't know about China but in Sweden diesel/petrol is more like 60/40 than the 95/5 balance in the UK, so it isn't such a big deal. The problem isn't the engine, it's that it isn't cheap enough; it's ~£27k according to Teknikens Värld, which makes it more expensive than a Volvo V40.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

285 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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AnorakUK said:
Bit like MG, the thought of flogging a dead horse comes to mind.
How is it even slightly like MG?

saaby93

32,038 posts

208 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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ImpossiblyDaft said:
in Sweden diesel/petrol is more like 60/40 than the 95/5 balance in the UK, .
can you clarify that balance... what is 95 and what is 5?

AnorakUK

91 posts

258 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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Mr2Mike said:
How is it even slightly like MG?
Poorly managed brand breathing its last. Let it die with what dignity it has left instead of becoming a national joke

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

285 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2013
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AnorakUK said:
Poorly managed brand breathing its last. Let it die with what dignity it has left instead of becoming a national joke
The MG of today is simply a brand name, owned by a very different company to the one that produced the original cars. Has the Saab brand name been bought by the Chinese to apply to a new range of cars?