RE: Skoda Octavia vRS: Review
RE: Skoda Octavia vRS: Review
Monday 2nd December 2013

Skoda Octavia vRS: Review

Golf GTI-based Octavia vRS sounds great, sadly we booked in a GTD-based TDI one by mistake!



Shorn of the space saver, 'Black design pack', sat-nav and 'Sunset from B-pillar black' (nor us) found on this car, the Skoda Octavia vRS TDI costs £24,060. Price will inevitably become a discussion point, so why not deal with it straight away? That figure is actually a few hundred quid less than an Elite-spec Vauxhall Astra 1.7 CDTI (£24,590) and, perhaps more relevantly, over £2K less than a five-door Golf GTD (£26,220) with which it shares so much.

Sounds a bit diesely ... oh, hang on
Sounds a bit diesely ... oh, hang on
Despite a lot of common architecture, there are a few tangible differences between VW and Skoda cousins. Whilst the 2.0-litre diesel makes the same power and torque figures in each car, the Octavia just seems that fraction less willing than even when allowances are made for the extra weight. The appealing, throaty noise of the GTD is missing, replaced by more conventional (if quite subdued) diesel chatter. And where the Golf seemed keen to rev out, for a diesel at least, there was a reluctance in the vRS to go beyond 4,000rpm. And this was in a car with 5,000 miles. Curious.

What may have augmented the Golf's sense of urgency was its DSG 'box. The Octavia came with the six-speed manual which, whilst a surprisingly pleasant thing to use with a short and positive shift, won't change gear as fast as the auto. Unless every last tenth of a second or mpg is important though, the manual is more than acceptable. It's really quite nice in fact.

All it needs to finish look are some blue bulbs...
All it needs to finish look are some blue bulbs...
Unsurprisingly, the rest of the vRS package is very similar to the GTD. However, and this is quite an important caveat, the adjusted remit of the Skoda makes the frustrations of the GTD much less of a concern. In the hatch you can't help but wonder how much more enjoyable the GTI would be (the answer is a fair bit) but outright thrills aren't as vital in a family estate.

Therefore, whilst a non-switchable ESC and entirely predictable dynamics hinder the Golf as a hot hatch, in the Octavia it's arguably less relevant. Instead, it can be really enjoyed up to eight tenths; it turns in keenly, the brakes feel strong and there's greater agility than that chunky silhouette would suggest. And you can turn the 'automated' steering function off, thankfully.

Really push it and the Octavia comes unstuck a little, which is only to be reasonably expected. Though equipped with the VW's XDS 'electronic differential lock', it can be found wanting for traction if 280lb ft is too readily deployed out of a corner. This is where the Golf, with its more advanced XDS+ system, can feel sharper and more planted as it gets power down more smoothly.

Lifestyle stuff handled with room to spare
Lifestyle stuff handled with room to spare
But without wishing to sound too What Car?, that's not really what a prospective vRS buyer is after. They'll be after a swift, economical, spacious and stylish family wagon that won't feel totally out of its depth on a solo drive. The Octavia scores very highly on all those counts.

Traditional family hatches and estates aren't exactly en vogue in 2013, so finding a rival for the Octavia vRS diesel is quite a challenge. The RWD Germans are of course much more expensive, and even the Volvo V60 starts at £29K in D4 guise. Its nearest rival is perhaps the 175hp Mazda 6 estate, but even that's £3,000 more at RRP.

As with the first two generations, the Octavia vRS offers an enjoyably alternative take on familiar VW Group underpinnings. It isn't thrill-a-minute, it never has been, but it will deliver everything you expect of it and possibly a fair bit more. For not an awful lot of money, what more could be asked of it? Now, about that petrol version we meant to get in...


SKODA OCTAVIA VRS
Engine:
1,968cc 4-cyl turbodiesel
Transmission: 6-speed manual, front-wheel drive (six-speed DSG optional)
Power (hp): 184@3,500-4,000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 280@1,750-3,000rpm
0-62mph: 8.2sec
Top speed: 143mph
Weight: 1,470kg
MPG: 61.4 (NEDC combined)
CO2: 119g/km
Price: £24,060 (standard), £25,775 (as tested including £1,350 for Columbus touchscreen sat-nav, £150 for Black design package, £140 for Sunset from B-pillar back and £75 for space saver)

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stumpage

Original Poster:

2,212 posts

256 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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The initial message was deleted from this topic on 02 December 2013 at 13:35

kambites

71,556 posts

251 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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Sounds like a decent if rather dull car, which I suppose is what you'd expect from a mid-sized diesel estate with a Skoda badge on the nose really.

TREMAiNE

4,164 posts

179 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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Absolutely love these cars.

They look fantastic, drive well and are good VFM.

Surely the ultimate all rounder for an 'every man'?

ED209

6,026 posts

274 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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Nice but too much of a leap in price compared to the old model until they start doing vat free or similar offers on them.

£24000 is a lot when i paid about £18100 for a brand new previous generation vrs diesel estate with about £800 of options back in march 2013.

gazzachelt

8 posts

164 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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looks like any other car, VW, AUDI, BMW

TNH

592 posts

177 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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gazzachelt said:
looks like any other car, VW, AUDI, BMW
It looks nothing like a BMW.

Moley RUFC

3,672 posts

219 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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The fake exhaust trim on the diesel still gripes me. Not a deal breaker but why not just have the dual chrome pipes like the FTD and mk2 vRS?

kambites

71,556 posts

251 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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TNH said:
gazzachelt said:
looks like any other car, VW, AUDI, BMW
It looks nothing like a BMW.
For which we should be deeply thankful.

renaultgeek

473 posts

178 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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is the octavia actually comparable in size to V60 and not v40? Considering its golf based..

Podie

46,649 posts

305 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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article said:
'Sunset from B-pillar black' (nor us)
Really?


405dogvan

5,329 posts

295 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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HOW MUCH!?

The thing which made the Octy interesting was that it was notably cheaper than the competition - but it had drawbacks which - at least in earlier models - included a lack of backseat space (it's a Golf, after all)

I don't like to say "£25K for a Skoda is bonkers" - but it is...

kambites

71,556 posts

251 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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405dogvan said:
HOW MUCH!?

The thing which made the Octy interesting was that it was notably cheaper than the competition - but it had drawbacks which - at least in earlier models - included a lack of backseat space (it's a Golf, after all)

I don't like to say "£25K for a Skoda is bonkers" - but it is...
According to the article, it still is significantly (10+%) cheaper than its competition?

The mk2 had significantly more back-seat space than a Golf (or indeed than a 3-series/A4/C-class) but less than a Mondeo or Passat. I'd imagine the mk3 is the same.

Edited by kambites on Monday 2nd December 14:04

Agdavie

48 posts

173 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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ED209 said:
Nice but too much of a leap in price compared to the old model until they start doing vat free or similar offers on them.

£24000 is a lot when i paid about £18100 for a brand new previous generation vrs diesel estate with about £800 of options back in march 2013.
Thats not really fair thought is it! you're comparing a NO VAT deal with a brand new car with new tech etc.

If the old vRS didnt have the VAT Deal the list price has only gone up about 800 if i remember rightly and you get more equipment as standard compared to the previous model as well so really its still much cheaper than its VW counterparts....

If it was all about "price" you'd be buying 2nd hand not brand new, which means that when you bought your vRS you were either to cheap to buy a better new car or realised that there is no point buying a 2nd hand VW/Audi when you can have a brand new skoda for the same price....

Now tell me im wrong....

p.s. this isnt a dig at you but having worked for almost all factions of the VAG i do know the customer demographic very well.....

F1GTRUeno

6,512 posts

248 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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I can't believe how much new cars are nowadays.

£24k for a 1.7 diesel Astra?

Denorth

559 posts

201 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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renaultgeek said:
is the octavia actually comparable in size to V60 and not v40? Considering its golf based..
same about comparison to Mazda6. Makes both Golf and Octavia look overpriced

ED209

6,026 posts

274 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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Agdavie said:
ED209 said:
Nice but too much of a leap in price compared to the old model until they start doing vat free or similar offers on them.

£24000 is a lot when i paid about £18100 for a brand new previous generation vrs diesel estate with about £800 of options back in march 2013.
Thats not really fair thought is it! you're comparing a NO VAT deal with a brand new car with new tech etc.

If the old vRS didnt have the VAT Deal the list price has only gone up about 800 if i remember rightly and you get more equipment as standard compared to the previous model as well so really its still much cheaper than its VW counterparts....

If it was all about "price" you'd be buying 2nd hand not brand new, which means that when you bought your vRS you were either to cheap to buy a better new car or realised that there is no point buying a 2nd hand VW/Audi when you can have a brand new skoda for the same price....

Now tell me im wrong....

p.s. this isnt a dig at you but having worked for almost all factions of the VAG i do know the customer demographic very well.....
But the no vat deal was just a front really for the price that Skoda were willing to sell them for all of the time. I bought it because having researched the best prices on all of the brand new small estates available with a bit of poke it was by far the best value.

Steve vRS

5,402 posts

271 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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It is a good car if the following apply to you:-

Golf too small...

Focus ST not diesel...

320D too BMW...

Mondeo too large...

Steve

Fourmotion

1,032 posts

250 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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ED209 said:
But the no vat deal was just a front really for the price that Skoda were willing to sell them for all of the time. I bought it because having researched the best prices on all of the brand new small estates available with a bit of poke it was by far the best value.
I agree here. I have a September 2011 model, and paid about £18k when the list was way up over £20k. Couldn't fault the value.

At the time the Golf GTD didn't compare on price or size. Very little discount, and a bug bear of mine was no cruise control, part leather seats, or the decent head unit as standard like the Octavia. Would have priced it up even higher for like for like equipment (not necessarily the overall quality).

garypotter

2,072 posts

180 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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A good friend has the previous VRS tdi estate and loves it, has had soporty cars before but really enjoys his Shkoda

ED209

6,026 posts

274 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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Fourmotion said:
ED209 said:
But the no vat deal was just a front really for the price that Skoda were willing to sell them for all of the time. I bought it because having researched the best prices on all of the brand new small estates available with a bit of poke it was by far the best value.
I agree here. I have a September 2011 model, and paid about £18k when the list was way up over £20k. Couldn't fault the value.

At the time the Golf GTD didn't compare on price or size. Very little discount, and a bug bear of mine was no cruise control, part leather seats, or the decent head unit as standard like the Octavia. Would have priced it up even higher for like for like equipment (not necessarily the overall quality).
I cannot remember the exact figure but mine came in 5 and a bit k under full list, if they could do a new model for the same I would be tempted to change even now.