Speeding....so probably drunk
Speeding....so probably drunk
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catso

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16,423 posts

296 months

Tuesday 9th November 2004
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On BBC news this morning, apparently Drink-Driving at an all time high and been on the increase for the last 8 years. Up 33% in England and 50% in N. Ireland.

They showed a cop with a hand held speed detection device pulling a motorist with the announcement 'Speeding....so probably drunk' ??? and they wonder why Drink Driving is on the increase - they haven't got a fg clue

Don

28,378 posts

313 months

Tuesday 9th November 2004
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Brilliant.

So it appears you can get as pissed as you like but if you drive under the speed limit you'll get away with it - unless a non-existent Trafpol spots you - chances of that low and falling.

I feel sorry for the Trafpol chaps on here. Blimmin' uphill struggle if you ask me.

bryan35

1,906 posts

270 months

Tuesday 9th November 2004
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I feel almost ashamed for saying, but I do tend to have a pint or two some evening before setting of home from work. Didn't use to, but there are no trafic police on the motorway I drive on, only the occasional scam vam, so why not?

lanciachris

3,357 posts

270 months

Tuesday 9th November 2004
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Because it will make you drive worse and eventually you will crash because of it and kill someone?

Not really the trickiest thing to figure out.

mondeoman

11,430 posts

295 months

Tuesday 9th November 2004
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lanciachris said:
Because it will make you drive worse and eventually you will crash because of it and kill someone?

Not really the trickiest thing to figure out.


Two pints isn't going to make anyone crash.

And its right, there are hardly any trafpol around outside major cities these days. Plot, lost, completely.

Dibble

13,276 posts

269 months

Tuesday 9th November 2004
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Don said:
Blimmin' uphill struggle if you ask me.


Very much so.

Rats and sinking ship, anyone?

www.pistonheads.co.uk/gassing/topic.asp?t=134824&f=10&h=0

Don

28,378 posts

313 months

Tuesday 9th November 2004
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Ahhh now. Lets not get too worked up.

I know some people don't think so but I see a world of difference between co-workers enjoying a beer together before going home on a Friday and feckless scrotes who don't give a toss who are prepared to get completely smashed and then drive.

We should not lump both categories in together. IMO.

Bryan35: Surely you didn't mean to suggest you consider driving whilst knowingly over the limit? That would be utterly reprehensible - even if the chances of being caught are minimal. If what you meant was you feel happy to enjoy a pint (and possibly a half) before driving home and feel it is safe to do so then I understand.

james_j

3,996 posts

284 months

Tuesday 9th November 2004
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catso said:
They showed a cop with a hand held speed detection device pulling a motorist with the announcement 'Speeding....so probably drunk' ??? and they wonder why Drink Driving is on the increase - they haven't got a fg clue


What an utterly moronic thing to say.

How many drivers have points on their licence - tens of thousands, millions? ...and they were probably all drunk! Even less respect now for some puppet enforcers

Streetcop

5,907 posts

267 months

Tuesday 9th November 2004
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I'm presuming it was the media that put the caption up..and not the BiB....

After all..the majority of drink drivers I've dealt with haven't been speeding, but have driven a bit vague or have had something wrong with their car..(light out etc)...

Street

catso

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16,423 posts

296 months

Tuesday 9th November 2004
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james_j said:


What an utterly moronic thing to say.

How many drivers have points on their licence - tens of thousands, millions? ...and they were probably all drunk! Even less respect now for some puppet enforcers


To be fair it wasn't the cop that made the comment but the reporter......however it was the cop using the speed gun

Never the less the comment was made on national TV. and wasn't it once mentioned that certain Police bosses were targeting people with points as potential criminals for other offences, something to do with "the kind of person who breaks one law is more likely not to respect others".

I have points on my licence but never drink & drive, (not even 1 drink) and have never robbed/mugged anyone etc. but never the less I am a Criminal who has been to court for my heinous crime - I always had respect for the law & Police but now that's fast disappearing and there must be many more that feel like I do why do the powers that be not see this? could it be that they are looking through revenue-tinted spectacles? is the Scam money that important that they are prepared to ruin this country for it?

And do they not think that anyone who is knowingly over the limit will just drive slowly

Streetcop

5,907 posts

267 months

Tuesday 9th November 2004
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catso said:

To be fair it wasn't the cop that made the comment but the reporter......however it was the cop using the speed gun


The media talk a load of bollox at the best of times...i'm not in the bit surpised by what you've said...

The film footage could have been for a speeding story, but the editor decided to put it on the drink driving report...because it involved a traffic policeman....

gone

6,649 posts

292 months

Tuesday 9th November 2004
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mondeoman said:

Two pints isn't going to make anyone crash.



Thats a very bold statement

Two pints of what exactly?
Had anything to eat?
Tired?

Any reasonable amount of alcohol will affect your ability to judge a situation and how to deal with it.

Those 2 pints might make the difference between a decision that saves you or a decision that does not!

Streetcop

5,907 posts

267 months

Tuesday 9th November 2004
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Gone

catso

Original Poster:

16,423 posts

296 months

Tuesday 9th November 2004
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Streetcop said:


The media talk a load of bollox at the best of times...i'm not in the bit surpised by what you've said...

The film footage could have been for a speeding story, but the editor decided to put it on the drink driving report...because it involved a traffic policeman....




"...because it involved a traffic policeman...." breathylising his 'catch' who, incidentally hadn't been drinking.

But thousands of 'potential Drink-drivers' will have seen that report and perhaps taken the advice and thousands of law abiding citizens will have seen it and thought 'speeding the root of all evil today' - a major contribution to road safety

And yes, I agree that the media talk 'a load of bollox' but then so do politicians - a breed which includes many top Police Officers.

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Streetcop

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267 months

Tuesday 9th November 2004
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ATG

23,733 posts

301 months

Tuesday 9th November 2004
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Ironically, according to a former west mercia policeman I know, one of the easiest way to spot drink drivers around closing time is to look out for cars doing 30mph on the nail perfectly aligned in the middle of their lane. Driver is concentrating like fury because they know they are half pissed.

catso

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16,423 posts

296 months

Tuesday 9th November 2004
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ATG said:
Ironically, according to a former west mercia policeman I know, one of the easiest way to spot drink drivers around closing time is to look out for cars doing 30mph on the nail perfectly aligned in the middle of their lane. Driver is concentrating like fury because they know they are half pissed.


That'll be everyone with points on their licences or on known Scamera routes then

gone

6,649 posts

292 months

Tuesday 9th November 2004
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ATG said:
Ironically, according to a former west mercia policeman I know, one of the easiest way to spot drink drivers around closing time is to look out for cars doing 30mph on the nail perfectly aligned in the middle of their lane. Driver is concentrating like fury because they know they are half pissed.


The problem they have is that while they are concentrating so hard on the speed limit to be at 30mph on the nail, they forget about the rest of it!

Constantly touching the brake pedal to get the speed back down. Unecessary braking for minimal hazards.
Forgetting to steer in an appropriate way for the road they happen to be on etc!

einion yrth

19,575 posts

273 months

Tuesday 9th November 2004
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gone said:

ATG said:
Ironically, according to a former west mercia policeman I know, one of the easiest way to spot drink drivers around closing time is to look out for cars doing 30mph on the nail perfectly aligned in the middle of their lane. Driver is concentrating like fury because they know they are half pissed.



The problem they have is that while they are concentrating so hard on the speed limit to be at 30mph on the nail, they forget about the rest of it!

Constantly touching the brake pedal to get the speed back down. Unecessary braking for minimal hazards.
Forgetting to steer in an appropriate way for the road they happen to be on etc!

So rather like driving past a scamera eh?

gone

6,649 posts

292 months

Tuesday 9th November 2004
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einion yrth said:


The problem they have is that while they are concentrating so hard on the speed limit to be at 30mph on the nail, they forget about the rest of it!

Constantly touching the brake pedal to get the speed back down. Unecessary braking for minimal hazards.
Forgetting to steer in an appropriate way for the road they happen to be on etc!



gone said:
So rather like driving past a scamera eh?


When they are pissed they do not see/care about the camera

>> Edited by gone on Tuesday 9th November 10:54