What robust, sporty 2+2?
What robust, sporty 2+2?
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Bill

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58,741 posts

285 months

Friday 6th December 2013
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Another topic got me thinking about a return to interesting cars, but as I now have three kids and live on a muddy single track road my criteria have become a bit more, er, agricultural robust...

Budget for this (currently hypothetical) change is tight, so £5k max but £2k would be preferable. It'll be a daily driver so it needs to be reliable, it'll live down a crappy road with muddy, hole filled passing places hence robust. And I'd prefer RWD and more than four cylinders, but can be swayed.

Basically I'm thinking some sort of rally car hehe

I'd love a Merc SEC, but they're not exactly sporty. I'm a bit old for hot hatches, and have had an Impreza. The sensible option is a Forester Turbo, not least because we could squeeze all 5 of us into it when the Landy is off the road, but I'm struggling to get past the idea of a 944.

Finally, I'm sorry. What car topics are dull, and hypothetical ones even more tedious, but at least I'm not asking about something for a motorway commute.

PS if anyone can think of an interesting option that fits three kids in the back they'll receive more Internet beers than they could possibly know what to do with. beer

V8RX7

28,982 posts

293 months

Friday 6th December 2013
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Forester Turbo is the obvious answer, a 944 really isn't suitable as you well know.

If you fancy something different how about a Mitsi RVR or Evo 1,2,3 ?

HustleRussell

26,581 posts

190 months

Friday 6th December 2013
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Believe it or not, 944 sprung to mind when I was reading the first few lines. Standard suspension, small wheels and it should be alright if driven sensibly.

kambites

71,562 posts

251 months

Friday 6th December 2013
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Something like a 200SX? Not sure how tough they are, though.

Bill

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58,741 posts

285 months

Friday 6th December 2013
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V8RX7 said:
a 944 really isn't suitable as you well know.
Why not? (Sorry to seem combative, but you can't piss on my bonfire without giving me a reason. smile)

Krikkit

27,938 posts

211 months

Friday 6th December 2013
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6 cylinder Subaru Outback/Legacy? Lovely engine.

DaveCWK

2,417 posts

204 months

Friday 6th December 2013
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Celica GT-Four.
2+2 - check
Interesting - check
Robust - nothing is more robust than a 1990's Toyota/Honda
Not RWD but still a fun 4wd steer with the rear TorSen diff, just be sure to get one on standard suspension.

Snowboy

8,028 posts

181 months

Friday 6th December 2013
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Right up until you said 'three kids in the back' I was going to say...

Jeep Wrangler.
Rwd.
Good for rutted road.
4l engine.
Straight 6.

Ok... Maybe not.



Edited by Snowboy on Friday 6th December 10:33

Jazoli

9,668 posts

280 months

Friday 6th December 2013
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What about an R33 Skyline gts, plenty around within budget.

HemiCommander

4,238 posts

183 months

Friday 6th December 2013
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Bill said:
I'd love a Merc SEC, but they're not exactly sporty.
Having had a 560 SEC I can say that they are awesome but I really wouldn't recommend one given your requirements and budget. They are not sporty in any way, only have 4 seats, drink a spectacular amount of fuel, will rust if left with arches full of mud and whilst reliable can be an expensive pain if they go wrong. It would cost many thousands every year to run which from your budget I'm assuming is impractical.

The forester turbo sounds like the obvious solution to your requirements though I've never tried one so can't personally comment. In fact most of the Subaru offerings might be ideal.

V8RX7

28,982 posts

293 months

Friday 6th December 2013
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Bill said:
V8RX7 said:
a 944 really isn't suitable as you well know.
Why not? (Sorry to seem combative, but you can't piss on my bonfire without giving me a reason. smile)
Because if you were being reasonable and asking for suggestions of a daily driver for 3 kids a 944 does not come to mind (I've had one)

Also if you ask for a suitable car for travelling a muddy rutted lanes a 944 is not the most suitable.

However I have kids and have many 2 seater cars as I like them - but I recently had to buy a 4 seater to get them to school - E46 330 convertible - kids love it and it's a damn site more practical than a 944.

Sod it you might as well just buy an MX5.

wink

nagsheadwarrior

2,789 posts

209 months

Friday 6th December 2013
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Nissan Stagea
Mitsy Galant vr4 or type S

One of those Lancia Deltas thats one down from the Integrale,Hf Turbo was it?

Someone did the Dakar in a Rolls once?

Bill

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58,741 posts

285 months

Friday 6th December 2013
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nagsheadwarrior said:
Someone did the Dakar in a Rolls once?
I'd love a 70s Corniche, on all terrains hehe

deltashad

6,731 posts

227 months

Friday 6th December 2013
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In my well varied garage lives a clk320 it ticks every box apart from being a clk500

deltashad

6,731 posts

227 months

Friday 6th December 2013
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Delete... double text st phone

Edited by deltashad on Friday 6th December 11:10

Bill

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Friday 6th December 2013
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V8RX7 said:
Because if you were being reasonable and asking for suggestions of a daily driver for 3 kids a 944 does not come to mind (I've had one)

Also if you ask for a suitable car for travelling a muddy rutted lanes a 944 is not the most suitable.

However I have kids and have many 2 seater cars as I like them - but I recently had to buy a 4 seater to get them to school - E46 330 convertible - kids love it and it's a damn site more practical than a 944.
You and your bloody sensible reasoning biggrin I just can't get excited about a 330, which is annoying as the whole 6 cylinder rwd thing is good.

V8RX7

28,982 posts

293 months

Friday 6th December 2013
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Bill said:
V8RX7 said:
Because if you were being reasonable and asking for suggestions of a daily driver for 3 kids a 944 does not come to mind (I've had one)

Also if you ask for a suitable car for travelling a muddy rutted lanes a 944 is not the most suitable.

However I have kids and have many 2 seater cars as I like them - but I recently had to buy a 4 seater to get them to school - E46 330 convertible - kids love it and it's a damn site more practical than a 944.
You and your bloody sensible reasoning biggrin I just can't get excited about a 330, which is annoying as the whole 6 cylinder rwd thing is good.
Oh me neither - it's a dull car to drive - albeit it is a nice place to sit and with the roof down the kids love it.

But I can't get 2 kids into my supercharged MX5 and it's no more boring than every other 2+2 car and I've tried many including Monaro, 911, 944, Supra

If you want to be mean try an RX7 FD - great car but totally unsuitable.


MG511

1,754 posts

271 months

Friday 6th December 2013
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nagsheadwarrior said:
Someone did the Dakar in a Rolls once?
It may have looked like a Rolls Royce, but there were a few mods...
http://www.carclassic.com/stock.asp?Ref=EF34&L...

N Dentressangle

3,453 posts

252 months

Saturday 7th December 2013
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How about the 280CE, the SEC's little brother?



6cyl, rwd, tough enough for Africa blah, blah...

silly

N Dentressangle

3,453 posts

252 months

Saturday 7th December 2013
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...or you could just throw caution and marital relations to the winds and give in to your true desires:



http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Land-Rover-SERIES-2A-88-...