Canine Intelligence
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leafspring

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7,032 posts

161 months

Monday 9th December 2013
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Can a dog consciously make the decision to deceive it's owner?

I ask as Dukey has/had injured his rear right foot (screaming yelping, not letting us touch it... no blood and nothing out of place/dislocated)

He's spent a couple of days walking on three legs, or 4 with a heavy limp.

Except today he was limping on the wrong foot confused


Xtriple129

1,173 posts

181 months

Monday 9th December 2013
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Oh yes, dogs are super smart. My little girl (Phoebe) was obsessed with stones when she was young. Of course, the inevitable happened and she swollowed one, had to be operated on and was banned from touching stones ever again. The house, which had looked like an indoor rockery was emptied (even her dog bed was full of the bloody things) and if she went near a stone... stern rebuke.

She was given loads of other toys instead and tennis balls...

A few weeks later stones started appearing round the house again, even though we watched her pretty closely and never saw her with them. One day I watched closely... What she had done was, chewed the fromt off a tennis ball, she'd pick it up open end into her mouth, take it outside, put it down, put a stone in and then carry it back in the house!

Clever buggers dogs!

Saleen836

12,300 posts

233 months

Monday 9th December 2013
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My old chocolate labrador used to try and deceive me, I would get home from work and let her out to do toilet stuff but she would wait round the corner of the house for around 20seconds then come back in all happy and sit waiting for a treat for being good!
Her head would drop in shame when I told her to go back outside and she would slope off back outside and then go to the toilet.

vx220

2,720 posts

258 months

Monday 9th December 2013
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More likely, she has been limping on one leg for a while that she has made the other one sore, just like humans do?

Morningside

24,147 posts

253 months

Wednesday 11th December 2013
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Yes. Mums cocker once got a thorn stuck in her foot. After that she used to limp as she walked past the same spot.

Kiltie

7,505 posts

270 months

Wednesday 11th December 2013
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Morningside said:
Yes. Mums cocker once got a thorn stuck in her foot. After that she used to limp as she walked past the same spot.
biggrin

Not really "deception" though ... but made me smile. smile

Kiltie

7,505 posts

270 months

Wednesday 11th December 2013
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Xtriple129 said:
Oh yes, dogs are super smart. My little girl (Phoebe) was obsessed with stones when she was young. Of course, the inevitable happened and she swollowed one, had to be operated on and was banned from touching stones ever again. The house, which had looked like an indoor rockery was emptied (even her dog bed was full of the bloody things) and if she went near a stone... stern rebuke.

She was given loads of other toys instead and tennis balls...

A few weeks later stones started appearing round the house again, even though we watched her pretty closely and never saw her with them. One day I watched closely... What she had done was, chewed the fromt off a tennis ball, she'd pick it up open end into her mouth, take it outside, put it down, put a stone in and then carry it back in the house!

Clever buggers dogs!
That is absolutely superb!

Thanks, made my day.

bunnyman

61 posts

202 months

Wednesday 11th December 2013
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Interesting topic.
My 3 year old Cockapoo is pretty daft when it comes to most things. However, he loves to grab the TV remote control when he gets a chance and then run round the lounge with it while my wife tries to retrieve it. To stop him doing this she keeps a close eye on said remote.
Several times, the hound has gone upstairs to the bedroom and started barking. The missus goes up stairs to see what he is barking at but he then runs downstairs and grabs the remote while she is distracted! Its hilarious to see!

theshrew

6,008 posts

208 months

Wednesday 11th December 2013
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They can be very clever and thick as st to.

One of mine will do alsorts of things and learns very quick. The other is a muppet ive lost count how many times she has ran into the patio doors at my parents house I have to put something in front of them now because she just doesnt learn its a door lol

bakerstreet

5,005 posts

189 months

Thursday 12th December 2013
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bunnyman said:
Interesting topic.
My 3 year old Cockapoo is pretty daft when it comes to most things. However, he loves to grab the TV remote control when he gets a chance and then run round the lounge with it while my wife tries to retrieve it. To stop him doing this she keeps a close eye on said remote.
Several times, the hound has gone upstairs to the bedroom and started barking. The missus goes up stairs to see what he is barking at but he then runs downstairs and grabs the remote while she is distracted! Its hilarious to see!
Genuine Lol. Has he managed to change channels ect ect. My Mum's Jack Russel once deleted the entire series of frozen planet!

bunnyman

61 posts

202 months

Thursday 12th December 2013
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Yes indeed, he changes channels but he prefers to just chew the remote until it stops working. We have had to buy 3 or 4 new ones since we have had him!

bakerstreet

5,005 posts

189 months

Thursday 12th December 2013
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bunnyman said:
Yes indeed, he changes channels but he prefers to just chew the remote until it stops working. We have had to buy 3 or 4 new ones since we have had him!
I've been looking into becoming a dog owner and the web sites usually list the normal expenses such as food, leads, toys, bedding ect ect but none of them have mentioned Sky Remotes at £18 a pop frown

Kateg28

1,370 posts

187 months

Friday 13th December 2013
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My dog (gone 16 years now cry) was not allowed on the furniture and he used to sit next to me and put one paw carefully on the sofa next to me. He would leave it a few minutes, then put another paw on the sofa. Another few minutes would pass and a third leg would carefully manoeuvre onto the sofa. At this point I would just say "I can see you" and all legs would return to the floor and his face would be a picture of innocence.

He had a guilty face for when he would find our chocolate as he knew it was forbidden and carefully removed from his reach but somehow he often found a way....

Hooli

32,278 posts

224 months

Friday 13th December 2013
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bunnyman said:
Interesting topic.
My 3 year old Cockapoo is pretty daft when it comes to most things. However, he loves to grab the TV remote control when he gets a chance and then run round the lounge with it while my wife tries to retrieve it. To stop him doing this she keeps a close eye on said remote.
Several times, the hound has gone upstairs to the bedroom and started barking. The missus goes up stairs to see what he is barking at but he then runs downstairs and grabs the remote while she is distracted! Its hilarious to see!
rofl

Spiffing

1,855 posts

234 months

Friday 13th December 2013
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My dog fakes a wee to come on from the garden on poor weather, even cocks his leg. He had us fooled for ages until we noticed there was no wet patch. When I'm at my Mum's and get ready to take him for a walk or out he bolts upstairs barges into my bedridden Grandma's room and snuggles down with her on the bed. She immediately perks up and makes a fuss of him, he gets out of another walk or gets to stay there for the night as I feel guilty taking him away from my Grandma. He really is a lazy bugger for a 3yr old collie.

Ilikebeaver

3,185 posts

205 months

Saturday 28th December 2013
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My parents got a mongrel before they had children about 35 years ago.

Then mum got pregnant with my older sister.

As soon as she arrived the dog pretended to be ill.
So I'll it wouldn't get up or move.

My parents were really worried about it and the vet came to visit but couldn't find anything wrong.

Later on, grandpa came to visit and as soon as the dog saw him, lept off his feet to greet him.

Then looked around in embarrassment realising that the game was up.

rambo19

2,932 posts

161 months

Sunday 29th December 2013
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A few months back, my jrt caught his dew claw and it was bleeding, I took him to the vets and they took it off and bandaged his leg.
I came in from work the next day and he was sat in the hallway holding bandaged leg in the air and looking at it as if to say 'dad, ive hurt my leg'.

He also has SAS/ninja skills when it comes to nicking stuff, and when confronted gives the most innocent look ever!

CAPP0

20,562 posts

227 months

Sunday 29th December 2013
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No flies on ours either. She knows exactly what she's allowed to touch and what she's not, but if we're not paying her enough attention when she WANTS attention, she will go to something of ours and disturb it to make us react. Example earlier - we had been out for a long long walk and all I wanted was a cup of tea and mince pies whilst reading PH. She, however, wanted to play with her new Xmas toy. When I didn't respond, she carefully pulled the power lead out of my laptop! She's always doing things like this.

Hooli

32,278 posts

224 months

Sunday 29th December 2013
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CAPP0 said:
she carefully pulled the power lead out of my laptop!
rofl

Ours sits next to us & puts her foot on the keyboard.

leafspring

Original Poster:

7,032 posts

161 months

Sunday 29th December 2013
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Tis as I suspected then... if they're awake they're up to no good scratchchin

No idea what was wrong with his back leg... but he now limps on the front left in an attempt to get sympathy.