ZERO drink drive limit - yes or no?
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No, far too restrictive. As it stands one can have a sociable drink and still drive home which for some people is the only viable option. I'd imagine most people exercise even greater caution when driving after a drink, which must all but make up for any drop off in reaction time/perception.
Depends, I'm 20 so I don't touch it at all if I'm driving as I know the risks are probably greater with myself than a 40 year old man.
On the other hand, I go to the pub with my dad most weekends while we wait for a Chinese and we'll have a couple of pints and then he'll drive home. It's too far to walk to the pub so if they brought in a zero tolerance limit then that would stop.
I think the limit is fine, people just need self-control if they're driving. When I'm out with my mates I tell myself I don't want one. If I change my mind then I'll drink all night and pay the premium for a taxi
On the other hand, I go to the pub with my dad most weekends while we wait for a Chinese and we'll have a couple of pints and then he'll drive home. It's too far to walk to the pub so if they brought in a zero tolerance limit then that would stop.
I think the limit is fine, people just need self-control if they're driving. When I'm out with my mates I tell myself I don't want one. If I change my mind then I'll drink all night and pay the premium for a taxi

No, because firstly plenty of non beverage things can give you an alcohol content. Plus, a drink is Ok.
I would say that if the drink driving numbers are rising then it may be linked to the fact that beer and wine strengths have been increasing?
Pretty hard to find a 3% beer in many urban bars. It's all 5%+ stuff.
I have to say that if I can only drink lager then I'll have it as a shandy when driving or not bother.
I would say that if the drink driving numbers are rising then it may be linked to the fact that beer and wine strengths have been increasing?
Pretty hard to find a 3% beer in many urban bars. It's all 5%+ stuff.
I have to say that if I can only drink lager then I'll have it as a shandy when driving or not bother.
As ever, the reply to this is "show us the evidence of people crashing with currently legal alcohol levels"
Is doesn't exist so far as I can see, the prangs seem to be people who are all sloshed and if introduced this would be used for lazy profiteering "easy pseudo law enforcement" against easy prey just going about our biz just like parking, speeding regulations etc
Is doesn't exist so far as I can see, the prangs seem to be people who are all sloshed and if introduced this would be used for lazy profiteering "easy pseudo law enforcement" against easy prey just going about our biz just like parking, speeding regulations etc
Krikkit said:
No.
The hardcore DD'ers will continue drinking, but it stops people being able to enjoy a couple of drinks over a meal then drive home - there are several gastropubs/restaurants I can think of in my local area which would probably close/see a large reduction in business.
This. The hardcore DD'ers will continue drinking, but it stops people being able to enjoy a couple of drinks over a meal then drive home - there are several gastropubs/restaurants I can think of in my local area which would probably close/see a large reduction in business.
I'm strongly against criminalising a vast majority in a futile attempt to stop the stupid minority who won't care about the limit being zero anyway.
saaby93 said:
Why shouldnt it stop people having a couple of drinks before driving home 
Isnt that the problem - they have one, oh and another, oh ta very much
No, that isn't the problem. 
Isnt that the problem - they have one, oh and another, oh ta very much
Adults generally have good self-restraint, as demonstrated weekly by millions of them having a pub drink and driving home legally and safely. Making it lower will make negligible difference to road safety.
The ZERO would not be as it sounds because the zero setting would probably be a little above true zero to allow for what the body might produce naturally
The have a zero for non full licence holders in OZ and from looking at the TV programmes it seems to work well enough there
As its proven that even a small amount can affect driving then surely it makes sense ?
The have a zero for non full licence holders in OZ and from looking at the TV programmes it seems to work well enough there
As its proven that even a small amount can affect driving then surely it makes sense ?
No stupid idea ! If you use a mouthwash you fail the test based on a zero value. A zero value also means no drinking the night before you drive. No Xmas pudding at that meal out !! Having a pint/equivalent is no worse than driving if you had a bad nights sleep or have a bit of a cold. It will penailse otherwise law abiding people and have zero effect on dangerous drivers. The current limit is fine , people go over because the chance of getting caught is almost zero. In over 30 years of driving I have been breathalized twice. Make it more likely you will get tested and people might think twice.
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