When was your last dpf regen?
When was your last dpf regen?
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HertsBiker

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6,443 posts

301 months

Wednesday 11th December 2013
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Think I saw one after 3000 miles last night. Finally had a clear motorway and saw the temp go up then drop. Was this the fabled regen?

SteBrown91

3,144 posts

159 months

Wednesday 11th December 2013
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Possibly? I have done 3k in my first car with a DPF and no issues yet

Krikkit

27,938 posts

211 months

Wednesday 11th December 2013
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Ever get out and notice an odd smell?

Monkeylegend

29,365 posts

261 months

Wednesday 11th December 2013
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Never notice a temp change with mine, but it smells like burning rubber when mine regenerates.

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

197 months

Wednesday 11th December 2013
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I don't have a diesel car, that would be stupid, but the company vehicle is diesel. Big arguments (mainly by the market leader) about the best way to deal with the emissions, DPF or DEF. Our use DEF so do EGR or DPF, just pump some Add Blue in the tank every now and then and no regen nonsense, well not until they have to meet the next round of regs anyway.

CB2152

1,555 posts

163 months

Wednesday 11th December 2013
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Monkeylegend said:
Never notice a temp change with mine, but it smells like burning rubber when mine regenerates.
My Dad bought his first diesel a couple of years ago, and didn't know they did this. He got out of the car and started checking all the tyres, thinking one must be dragging and burning.
He was very relieved that his brand new car didn't have massively wonky suspension alignment after I had told him what it probably was hehe

sweendoggydog

47 posts

189 months

Wednesday 11th December 2013
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Willy Nilly said:
I don't have a diesel car, that would be stupid, but the company vehicle is diesel. Big arguments (mainly by the market leader) about the best way to deal with the emissions, DPF or DEF. Our use DEF so do EGR or DPF, just pump some Add Blue in the tank every now and then and no regen nonsense, well not until they have to meet the next round of regs anyway.
there are systems around that already use all three add blue or def as its also know gets jetted into the exhaust, regen should be done actively as long as there is not to much idling, but there should be a passive regen if the soot build up gets to high

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

197 months

Wednesday 11th December 2013
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sweendoggydog said:
Willy Nilly said:
I don't have a diesel car, that would be stupid, but the company vehicle is diesel. Big arguments (mainly by the market leader) about the best way to deal with the emissions, DPF or DEF. Our use DEF so do EGR or DPF, just pump some Add Blue in the tank every now and then and no regen nonsense, well not until they have to meet the next round of regs anyway.
there are systems around that already use all three add blue or def as its also know gets jetted into the exhaust, regen should be done actively as long as there is not to much idling, but there should be a passive regen if the soot build up gets to high
Off road we are at Tier 3b I think and some (about 3%) urea is enough for that. On road must be Tier 5 (?). IIRC for the next round of regs that will apply to us off road will either go to more urea or a bit of urea and EGR and DPF.

itcaptainslow

4,782 posts

166 months

Wednesday 11th December 2013
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Regens will probably happen a lot more than you think. They should do it anywhere between 500-1000 miles depending on the vehicle and usage.

sweendoggydog

47 posts

189 months

Wednesday 11th December 2013
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Willy Nilly said:
sweendoggydog said:
Willy Nilly said:
I don't have a diesel car, that would be stupid, but the company vehicle is diesel. Big arguments (mainly by the market leader) about the best way to deal with the emissions, DPF or DEF. Our use DEF so do EGR or DPF, just pump some Add Blue in the tank every now and then and no regen nonsense, well not until they have to meet the next round of regs anyway.
there are systems around that already use all three add blue or def as its also know gets jetted into the exhaust, regen should be done actively as long as there is not to much idling, but there should be a passive regen if the soot build up gets to high
Off road we are at Tier 3b I think and some (about 3%) urea is enough for that. On road must be Tier 5 (?). IIRC for the next round of regs that will apply to us off road will either go to more urea or a bit of urea and EGR and DPF.
im not sure on uk regs but when i left the industry in England it was already at tier 6, i know in the US and Canada they already have every after treatment system available getting fitted, but there are so many flaws in the systems out of every vehicle going into the shop 70% of them where for DPF or EGR problems, the other issue is the use of the variable geometry turbo that is also used for to get it into regulation for emissions

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

197 months

Wednesday 11th December 2013
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sweendoggydog said:
Willy Nilly said:
sweendoggydog said:
Willy Nilly said:
I don't have a diesel car, that would be stupid, but the company vehicle is diesel. Big arguments (mainly by the market leader) about the best way to deal with the emissions, DPF or DEF. Our use DEF so do EGR or DPF, just pump some Add Blue in the tank every now and then and no regen nonsense, well not until they have to meet the next round of regs anyway.
there are systems around that already use all three add blue or def as its also know gets jetted into the exhaust, regen should be done actively as long as there is not to much idling, but there should be a passive regen if the soot build up gets to high
Off road we are at Tier 3b I think and some (about 3%) urea is enough for that. On road must be Tier 5 (?). IIRC for the next round of regs that will apply to us off road will either go to more urea or a bit of urea and EGR and DPF.
im not sure on uk regs but when i left the industry in England it was already at tier 6, i know in the US and Canada they already have every after treatment system available getting fitted, but there are so many flaws in the systems out of every vehicle going into the shop 70% of them where for DPF or EGR problems, the other issue is the use of the variable geometry turbo that is also used for to get it into regulation for emissions
The market leader has egr, dpf and variable geometry turbos and their associated fun and games and runs ad campaigns about how they are better than using 2 "fuels" and their disciples lap it up. We are waiting with baited breath to see how the spin their way around it when they have to use urea. Theirs will be 14% better than everyone elses. My machine does a lot of idling so EGR and the other stuff would be a problem.

sweendoggydog

47 posts

189 months

Wednesday 11th December 2013
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Willy Nilly said:
sweendoggydog said:
Willy Nilly said:
sweendoggydog said:
Willy Nilly said:
I don't have a diesel car, that would be stupid, but the company vehicle is diesel. Big arguments (mainly by the market leader) about the best way to deal with the emissions, DPF or DEF. Our use DEF so do EGR or DPF, just pump some Add Blue in the tank every now and then and no regen nonsense, well not until they have to meet the next round of regs anyway.
there are systems around that already use all three add blue or def as its also know gets jetted into the exhaust, regen should be done actively as long as there is not to much idling, but there should be a passive regen if the soot build up gets to high
Off road we are at Tier 3b I think and some (about 3%) urea is enough for that. On road must be Tier 5 (?). IIRC for the next round of regs that will apply to us off road will either go to more urea or a bit of urea and EGR and DPF.
im not sure on uk regs but when i left the industry in England it was already at tier 6, i know in the US and Canada they already have every after treatment system available getting fitted, but there are so many flaws in the systems out of every vehicle going into the shop 70% of them where for DPF or EGR problems, the other issue is the use of the variable geometry turbo that is also used for to get it into regulation for emissions
The market leader has egr, dpf and variable geometry turbos and their associated fun and games and runs ad campaigns about how they are better than using 2 "fuels" and their disciples lap it up. We are waiting with baited breath to see how the spin their way around it when they have to use urea. Theirs will be 14% better than everyone elses. My machine does a lot of idling so EGR and the other stuff would be a problem.
all company's are as bad as each other and all have various issues with there technologies, but it is still new technology so there will be problems, stationary regens are the only way around when there are no way the vehicle can get up to temp to do a active or passive regen, what is your machine?

vladcjelli

3,370 posts

188 months

Wednesday 11th December 2013
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Four fiat doblos (diablos?) delivered to my work for the Christmas period.

I have personally static regenerated one van twice in a week and a half. It's total mileage? Two hundred and twenty nine miles from new.

How big is the DPF? Thimble? Egg cup?

Max M4X WW

5,030 posts

212 months

Wednesday 11th December 2013
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Never? I'm not sure! 2012 Octavia Greenline 1.6CR 48k miles (It has a hard life)

snotrag

15,686 posts

241 months

Wednesday 11th December 2013
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Willy Nilly said:
I don't have a diesel car, that would be stupid, but the company vehicle is diesel. Big arguments (mainly by the market leader) about the best way to deal with the emissions, DPF or DEF. Our use DEF so do EGR or DPF, just pump some Add Blue in the tank every now and then and no regen nonsense, well not until they have to meet the next round of regs anyway.
:lol: I work for a commercial vehicle manufacturer, current joke is that for Euro 6 what you actually get is an exhaust, with a little engine attached to it.

There is an ECU, for the the exhaust. Bonkers.


( Funniest thing about all this emissions tech is that when you eventually do release all your nasty stuff, it all comes out in one big cloud hehe )

sweendoggydog

47 posts

189 months

Wednesday 11th December 2013
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snotrag said:
:lol: I work for a commercial vehicle manufacturer, current joke is that for Euro 6 what you actually get is an exhaust, with a little engine attached to it.

There is an ECU, for the the exhaust. Bonkers.


( Funniest thing about all this emissions tech is that when you eventually do release all your nasty stuff, it all comes out in one big cloud hehe )
i know your pain, ive just finished working for a large diesel engine manufacturer, and i spend most of my time pulling dpf of trucks lol, it gets old very quickly,

MG CHRIS

9,322 posts

197 months

Wednesday 11th December 2013
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sweendoggydog said:
snotrag said:
:lol: I work for a commercial vehicle manufacturer, current joke is that for Euro 6 what you actually get is an exhaust, with a little engine attached to it.

There is an ECU, for the the exhaust. Bonkers.


( Funniest thing about all this emissions tech is that when you eventually do release all your nasty stuff, it all comes out in one big cloud hehe )
i know your pain, ive just finished working for a large diesel engine manufacturer, and i spend most of my time pulling dpf of trucks lol, it gets old very quickly,
My boss went to a training course about future developments and euro 6 mind boggling comes to mind. And it doesn't actually remove the nasty stuff just stores it then dumps it.

Sticking with petrol no matter what anyone else says also old petrol's that is stuff from the 90s.

edc

9,657 posts

281 months

Wednesday 11th December 2013
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I don't think I have ever noticed any of my company diesels do a regen!

Baryonyx

18,288 posts

189 months

Wednesday 11th December 2013
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edc said:
I don't think I have ever noticed any of my company diesels do a regen!
Most of our cars at work don't have DPF's. However, as they are all now over 100,000 of the hardest miles known to man, they are starting to smoke terribly (and they're only 1.3CDTi Astras!). I was driving one a few weeks ago that was akin to the James Bond smokescreen! Of course, a bit of smoke from the exhaust is the lesser of two evils as unlike a DPF'd car, it'll still work when it's old and coked.

tehguy

178 posts

161 months

Thursday 12th December 2013
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In the year that I had a car with a DPF, it never went into regen