Looking into a Discovery 3 HSE V8 Petrol - What to look for
Discussion
Hi Everyone,
We are looking at getting a Discovery 3 HSE V8 Petrol and I'm after some feedback from owners.
I'm aware of the comical fuel and other associated 'normal' running costs (tyres/tax/etc), so no need to educate me there.
We've seen a potential 2005 vehicle, and other than looking through service history and condition, I'm curious if there are key things to look, and budget for. I'd imagine a must do is check the different terrain response settings click in without warnings on the dash, and check all the suspension height settings... as well as anything electrical !!
I think that we probably need to look to take whatever we buy to a local specialist for a once over when it is bought to ensure any potential future issues are nipped in the bud soon. Obviously its Air Suspension, so from what I've read making sure this is all working right and keeping on top of it is pivotal.
I think if we have a 'horror' fund of £2k, that should cover almost anything that might need sorting. Would be good to know any useful preventative maintenance jobs to get those ticked off quickly (early oil/differential/gearbox fluid changes etc)
Lastly, we're based near Gloucester, so any specialist and dealer recommendation is gratefully received (I was of the view Tim Fry were supposed to be decent, but as with any garage, you see some mixed reviews
)
Thanks in advance everyone !
We are looking at getting a Discovery 3 HSE V8 Petrol and I'm after some feedback from owners.
I'm aware of the comical fuel and other associated 'normal' running costs (tyres/tax/etc), so no need to educate me there.
We've seen a potential 2005 vehicle, and other than looking through service history and condition, I'm curious if there are key things to look, and budget for. I'd imagine a must do is check the different terrain response settings click in without warnings on the dash, and check all the suspension height settings... as well as anything electrical !!
I think that we probably need to look to take whatever we buy to a local specialist for a once over when it is bought to ensure any potential future issues are nipped in the bud soon. Obviously its Air Suspension, so from what I've read making sure this is all working right and keeping on top of it is pivotal.
I think if we have a 'horror' fund of £2k, that should cover almost anything that might need sorting. Would be good to know any useful preventative maintenance jobs to get those ticked off quickly (early oil/differential/gearbox fluid changes etc)
Lastly, we're based near Gloucester, so any specialist and dealer recommendation is gratefully received (I was of the view Tim Fry were supposed to be decent, but as with any garage, you see some mixed reviews
) Thanks in advance everyone !
Just spent a few hours reading forums and got some answers, would be good to get views on what I've found so far:
- Cars are heavy on Front Brakes
- Tyres cost about £800 for a full set (Conti Sport Contact 5 SUV's or similar)
- Tyres wear on inside edge heavily if geometry is out. Get done if you value your tyres
- Needs a good battery. Cheap ones / old ones can cause electric gremlins
- Cars are heavy on drop links and suspension bushes - Usual clunk sounds
- Check the air suspension by making the compressor work, go up and down several times
- Gearbox can feel sluggish. This might be pulling away in 2nd. Put in Manual mode to test
- Gearbox benefits from an oil and filter change as well as a gearbox reset (See below preventative maintenance tasks)
- Bluetooth might not work with my iPhone 4S and my wives iPhone 5S, there is a guy who can do replacement modules with the latest software for £70 - http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic53544.html?high...
- Check the electric parking brake. Screaming when pulling away can be this not releasing
- Apparently 54/05 plate cars can be a bit niggly, this changes post 06. Are 05 cars an absolute no no then?
So not a bad start of things to be aware of...
Importantly, I'd like some clarity still on:
- What are the good preventative maintenance tasks - I'm going to suggest a once over at the specialist, followed by a full fluid & filter refresh
- Are there any specific Petrol V8 issues to be aware of
- Cars are heavy on Front Brakes
- Tyres cost about £800 for a full set (Conti Sport Contact 5 SUV's or similar)
- Tyres wear on inside edge heavily if geometry is out. Get done if you value your tyres
- Needs a good battery. Cheap ones / old ones can cause electric gremlins
- Cars are heavy on drop links and suspension bushes - Usual clunk sounds
- Check the air suspension by making the compressor work, go up and down several times
- Gearbox can feel sluggish. This might be pulling away in 2nd. Put in Manual mode to test
- Gearbox benefits from an oil and filter change as well as a gearbox reset (See below preventative maintenance tasks)
- Bluetooth might not work with my iPhone 4S and my wives iPhone 5S, there is a guy who can do replacement modules with the latest software for £70 - http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic53544.html?high...
- Check the electric parking brake. Screaming when pulling away can be this not releasing
- Apparently 54/05 plate cars can be a bit niggly, this changes post 06. Are 05 cars an absolute no no then?
So not a bad start of things to be aware of...
Importantly, I'd like some clarity still on:
- What are the good preventative maintenance tasks - I'm going to suggest a once over at the specialist, followed by a full fluid & filter refresh
- Are there any specific Petrol V8 issues to be aware of
Your check list is pretty good.
The front lower arms clunk over bumps if the ball joints are gone, if it knocks under braking, the bushes are gone on the arm. Best is to buy a new arm and fit rather than rebush the old as it's less labour and quicker.
Arb bushes can go as well, a new set from land rover is about £80 or so. Make sure you have the latest version of them.
Steering column bush can also wear over time, usually an hour to swap over.
The rear upper arms can wear, along with the hub bushes, fit RRS ones as they are a better design.
Most people fit a set of all terrain tyres, they get better mileage from them over road tyres, and they still perform well on road and in snow. Usually for similar costs.
There is a later version of the compressor if the one goes faulty.
Wheel bearings can go from 100k upwards.
Brakes are down to the driver, i know some D3 drivers who can get 90k from a set, other's get 30k...
The engine is pretty reliable, good servicing with proper kits will see it do big miles. I'm also on a mostly US based off road forum adn the V8 is regarded as a great engine that will cover huge miles as long as you give it clean oil. Miles of 3-400k are known with no issues bar a heavy appetite for petrol.
The 04-05 models shouldn't be avoided, they gained an an unfair reputation from garages not having the proper diagnostic tools to plug in to see what was wrong, plus there was some silly errors that will now be corrected. If not, a good indy will be able to spot if they have been done or not and correct them.
A 2 grand slush fund will do, depending on miles will depend on how many of the common wear points have been covered. most of the bushes need done at 80-120k depending on if it's a city car or a motorway cruiser.
Be aware, they are 2.7 tons of car, so they are heavy on bushes and bearings.
They are however, a fantastic car to own. Mine has had all the common issues sorted bar the gearbox oil changed, i run RRS Supercharged Brembo front brakes and upgraded rears so my stopping power is a serious upgrade over the standard efforts.
The front lower arms clunk over bumps if the ball joints are gone, if it knocks under braking, the bushes are gone on the arm. Best is to buy a new arm and fit rather than rebush the old as it's less labour and quicker.
Arb bushes can go as well, a new set from land rover is about £80 or so. Make sure you have the latest version of them.
Steering column bush can also wear over time, usually an hour to swap over.
The rear upper arms can wear, along with the hub bushes, fit RRS ones as they are a better design.
Most people fit a set of all terrain tyres, they get better mileage from them over road tyres, and they still perform well on road and in snow. Usually for similar costs.
There is a later version of the compressor if the one goes faulty.
Wheel bearings can go from 100k upwards.
Brakes are down to the driver, i know some D3 drivers who can get 90k from a set, other's get 30k...
The engine is pretty reliable, good servicing with proper kits will see it do big miles. I'm also on a mostly US based off road forum adn the V8 is regarded as a great engine that will cover huge miles as long as you give it clean oil. Miles of 3-400k are known with no issues bar a heavy appetite for petrol.
The 04-05 models shouldn't be avoided, they gained an an unfair reputation from garages not having the proper diagnostic tools to plug in to see what was wrong, plus there was some silly errors that will now be corrected. If not, a good indy will be able to spot if they have been done or not and correct them.
A 2 grand slush fund will do, depending on miles will depend on how many of the common wear points have been covered. most of the bushes need done at 80-120k depending on if it's a city car or a motorway cruiser.
Be aware, they are 2.7 tons of car, so they are heavy on bushes and bearings.
They are however, a fantastic car to own. Mine has had all the common issues sorted bar the gearbox oil changed, i run RRS Supercharged Brembo front brakes and upgraded rears so my stopping power is a serious upgrade over the standard efforts.
Thanks for the post. Hugely appreciated.
How much did the uprated brake setup cost ? I'd imagine in the region of £1k ?
By much improved, I presume we are talking about car lengths here?
Interesting what you said about the tyres. When you say increased mileage do you mean from the tyres, or MPG?
How much did the uprated brake setup cost ? I'd imagine in the region of £1k ?
By much improved, I presume we are talking about car lengths here?
Interesting what you said about the tyres. When you say increased mileage do you mean from the tyres, or MPG?
I needed new brakes all round plus new hand brake shoes.
I got the calipers for £300, brand new, £77 for front disc's, £80 for EPC yellowstuff pads. £115 for upgraded rear disc's and EPC pads and £70 for new shoes. Then labour on top of that for fitting.
More like car lengths, the Brembo's are designed to haul 400bhp RRS down from speed.
You may lose 1-2 mpg but you get 40k minimum from the tyres.
I have Duratrac's on mine, they did give a drop of 3mpg but since i've had the brakes and suspension done, it's came back up to what the mpg was before...
Also, check the rear brake lines as they rust due to LR making them from steel.
You don't need to lift the body to change them, anyone who say's they do, would be getting challenged as it's not needed to do.
I got the calipers for £300, brand new, £77 for front disc's, £80 for EPC yellowstuff pads. £115 for upgraded rear disc's and EPC pads and £70 for new shoes. Then labour on top of that for fitting.
More like car lengths, the Brembo's are designed to haul 400bhp RRS down from speed.
You may lose 1-2 mpg but you get 40k minimum from the tyres.
I have Duratrac's on mine, they did give a drop of 3mpg but since i've had the brakes and suspension done, it's came back up to what the mpg was before...
Also, check the rear brake lines as they rust due to LR making them from steel.
You don't need to lift the body to change them, anyone who say's they do, would be getting challenged as it's not needed to do.
Interesting. The brembos just bolt on, or do you need different carriers etc? Sounds like you used Same size, just uprated discs ... Right ?
Sounds like a total bargain. Do you have a V8 also?
I'm hoping to average mid to high teens, but prepared for less. Maybe hit 20mpg on a run ....
Sounds like a total bargain. Do you have a V8 also?
I'm hoping to average mid to high teens, but prepared for less. Maybe hit 20mpg on a run ....
I have the tdv6, I really wanted a V8 but couldn't afford the fuel bills.
Tdv6 rears with brembo fronts, the fronts are larger, the Brembos bolt straight on, as the D3 and RRS are the same T5 chassis. The pads show the best difference though. Yellows are fronts and blacks are rears and are the same as the fronts.
Tdv6 rears with brembo fronts, the fronts are larger, the Brembos bolt straight on, as the D3 and RRS are the same T5 chassis. The pads show the best difference though. Yellows are fronts and blacks are rears and are the same as the fronts.
Thanks for the update, really useful.
I'd got my eyes on one thats just been sold, and finding the spec we want is proving to be challenging.
I'm checking PH Classifieds, AutoTrader and Disco 3 forums... any other 'must check' locations?
Looking for a V8 Petrol HSE 7 Seater, ideally 1 owner, Full Service History (happy to accept some specialist/LR Independent history) and ideally sub 60,000 miles - but will buy on condition. That said, I'm not interested in a vehicle with 140,000 miles !
I'd got my eyes on one thats just been sold, and finding the spec we want is proving to be challenging.
I'm checking PH Classifieds, AutoTrader and Disco 3 forums... any other 'must check' locations?
Looking for a V8 Petrol HSE 7 Seater, ideally 1 owner, Full Service History (happy to accept some specialist/LR Independent history) and ideally sub 60,000 miles - but will buy on condition. That said, I'm not interested in a vehicle with 140,000 miles !
You'll be very lucky to find a car that fits your very exact spec.
The V8 only was on sale for 2-3 years and wasn't a huge seller so you may be waiting a while to get the car you want.
When i was buying, it had to be an HSE, auto, black interior with privacy glass in silver or black... there were 12 within 200 miles that suited my criteria.
The V8 only was on sale for 2-3 years and wasn't a huge seller so you may be waiting a while to get the car you want.
When i was buying, it had to be an HSE, auto, black interior with privacy glass in silver or black... there were 12 within 200 miles that suited my criteria.
V8s already have bigger brakes than the Logburner IIRC, though the Brembos are another world entirely.
As for horrendous fuel consumption, ours has averaged 20mpg over 60k, and my pal's LogV6 has managed 24mpg. With diesel 7ppl more expensive, it's the V8 that is more economical....
It's now knocking on the door of 100k, and has had new front wishbones within the last 5k or so. Poor brute has led a hard life as it's a proper muddy countryside Landie, barring the ridiculous chrome (it was first registered in Chelsea ffs), and now runs on a nice set of MTRs. I can't remember the last time I cleaned it - it's there for the school run, family pottering, and getting crap thrown in the back of it.
£800 sounds extremely steep for a set of tyres, I think I paid about £160 each last time around, on the standard HSE 19"s. V8s don't suffer the numerous Loggie EGR problems and the like, nor by all reports do they have the nasty habit of lunching themselves for a laugh. They're also slightly lighter in the nose, so allegedly handle better, though my HSE clocked up at 2850kg on a weighbridge, so that may well be pissing in the wind!
As for buying, they're rare as the proverbial - there were loads around 4 years ago when everyone was swan diving from 4x4s convinced we'd have petrol at £15 a litre by the end of the week, and a lot of the V8s were snapped up. We bought ours back then, and paid about £8k less than an equivalent age/milage TDV6 which was barking. There were 60k 4 year old cars for sale for £8k ffs. We ended up deciding spec (HSE, no contest, we wanted the 3x sun roofs), and interior colour (couldn't abide black, so had to be Alpaca) and then basically would have taken any car in the right condition thereafter. I missed two lovely ones, a green and a cairns blue, before having to settle for Chelsea Drug Dealer Black and Chrome.... wouldn't be on the list if I had more to chose from, but they were going fast.
On the whole it seems you don't hear much about the V8s - primarily as there aren't all that many about (they sadly ditched the engine before too long, and never offered the 5 litre in the D4 in the UK at all :cryfloods, but also that as AJM says, apart from the "usual" Disco bugbears, the engines are pretty bombproof.
As for horrendous fuel consumption, ours has averaged 20mpg over 60k, and my pal's LogV6 has managed 24mpg. With diesel 7ppl more expensive, it's the V8 that is more economical....
It's now knocking on the door of 100k, and has had new front wishbones within the last 5k or so. Poor brute has led a hard life as it's a proper muddy countryside Landie, barring the ridiculous chrome (it was first registered in Chelsea ffs), and now runs on a nice set of MTRs. I can't remember the last time I cleaned it - it's there for the school run, family pottering, and getting crap thrown in the back of it.
£800 sounds extremely steep for a set of tyres, I think I paid about £160 each last time around, on the standard HSE 19"s. V8s don't suffer the numerous Loggie EGR problems and the like, nor by all reports do they have the nasty habit of lunching themselves for a laugh. They're also slightly lighter in the nose, so allegedly handle better, though my HSE clocked up at 2850kg on a weighbridge, so that may well be pissing in the wind!
As for buying, they're rare as the proverbial - there were loads around 4 years ago when everyone was swan diving from 4x4s convinced we'd have petrol at £15 a litre by the end of the week, and a lot of the V8s were snapped up. We bought ours back then, and paid about £8k less than an equivalent age/milage TDV6 which was barking. There were 60k 4 year old cars for sale for £8k ffs. We ended up deciding spec (HSE, no contest, we wanted the 3x sun roofs), and interior colour (couldn't abide black, so had to be Alpaca) and then basically would have taken any car in the right condition thereafter. I missed two lovely ones, a green and a cairns blue, before having to settle for Chelsea Drug Dealer Black and Chrome.... wouldn't be on the list if I had more to chose from, but they were going fast.
On the whole it seems you don't hear much about the V8s - primarily as there aren't all that many about (they sadly ditched the engine before too long, and never offered the 5 litre in the D4 in the UK at all :cryfloods
, but also that as AJM says, apart from the "usual" Disco bugbears, the engines are pretty bombproof.RedLeicester said:
V8s already have bigger brakes than the Logburner IIRC, though the Brembos are another world entirely.
As for horrendous fuel consumption, ours has averaged 20mpg over 60k, and my pal's LogV6 has managed 24mpg. With diesel 7ppl more expensive, it's the V8 that is more economical....
It's now knocking on the door of 100k, and has had new front wishbones within the last 5k or so. Poor brute has led a hard life as it's a proper muddy countryside Landie, barring the ridiculous chrome (it was first registered in Chelsea ffs), and now runs on a nice set of MTRs. I can't remember the last time I cleaned it - it's there for the school run, family pottering, and getting crap thrown in the back of it.
£800 sounds extremely steep for a set of tyres, I think I paid about £160 each last time around, on the standard HSE 19"s. V8s don't suffer the numerous Loggie EGR problems and the like, nor by all reports do they have the nasty habit of lunching themselves for a laugh. They're also slightly lighter in the nose, so allegedly handle better, though my HSE clocked up at 2850kg on a weighbridge, so that may well be pissing in the wind!
As for buying, they're rare as the proverbial - there were loads around 4 years ago when everyone was swan diving from 4x4s convinced we'd have petrol at £15 a litre by the end of the week, and a lot of the V8s were snapped up. We bought ours back then, and paid about £8k less than an equivalent age/milage TDV6 which was barking. There were 60k 4 year old cars for sale for £8k ffs. We ended up deciding spec (HSE, no contest, we wanted the 3x sun roofs), and interior colour (couldn't abide black, so had to be Alpaca) and then basically would have taken any car in the right condition thereafter. I missed two lovely ones, a green and a cairns blue, before having to settle for Chelsea Drug Dealer Black and Chrome.... wouldn't be on the list if I had more to chose from, but they were going fast.
On the whole it seems you don't hear much about the V8s - primarily as there aren't all that many about (they sadly ditched the engine before too long, and never offered the 5 litre in the D4 in the UK at all :cryfloods, but also that as AJM says, apart from the "usual" Disco bugbears, the engines are pretty bombproof.
I can't tell you how reassuring your post is.As for horrendous fuel consumption, ours has averaged 20mpg over 60k, and my pal's LogV6 has managed 24mpg. With diesel 7ppl more expensive, it's the V8 that is more economical....
It's now knocking on the door of 100k, and has had new front wishbones within the last 5k or so. Poor brute has led a hard life as it's a proper muddy countryside Landie, barring the ridiculous chrome (it was first registered in Chelsea ffs), and now runs on a nice set of MTRs. I can't remember the last time I cleaned it - it's there for the school run, family pottering, and getting crap thrown in the back of it.
£800 sounds extremely steep for a set of tyres, I think I paid about £160 each last time around, on the standard HSE 19"s. V8s don't suffer the numerous Loggie EGR problems and the like, nor by all reports do they have the nasty habit of lunching themselves for a laugh. They're also slightly lighter in the nose, so allegedly handle better, though my HSE clocked up at 2850kg on a weighbridge, so that may well be pissing in the wind!
As for buying, they're rare as the proverbial - there were loads around 4 years ago when everyone was swan diving from 4x4s convinced we'd have petrol at £15 a litre by the end of the week, and a lot of the V8s were snapped up. We bought ours back then, and paid about £8k less than an equivalent age/milage TDV6 which was barking. There were 60k 4 year old cars for sale for £8k ffs. We ended up deciding spec (HSE, no contest, we wanted the 3x sun roofs), and interior colour (couldn't abide black, so had to be Alpaca) and then basically would have taken any car in the right condition thereafter. I missed two lovely ones, a green and a cairns blue, before having to settle for Chelsea Drug Dealer Black and Chrome.... wouldn't be on the list if I had more to chose from, but they were going fast.
On the whole it seems you don't hear much about the V8s - primarily as there aren't all that many about (they sadly ditched the engine before too long, and never offered the 5 litre in the D4 in the UK at all :cryfloods
, but also that as AJM says, apart from the "usual" Disco bugbears, the engines are pretty bombproof.The V8 is the one for me for most of the reasons you cover. The added complication around the engine just didn't make the diesel worth it in any way for me.
I'd calculated based on the petrol getting 22, and the diesel getting 27 (publicised combined figures) as a finger in the air assessment of how bad it could be. Last time I passed a Shell garage around here diesel was 10p a litre more than diesel, and that made the petrol about £300 per 10,000 miles more expensive. When you think that a lot of the diesels out there are screaming to pop a turbo/have an EGR/injector fault... you can't argue with a 4.4 V8 and a light 300bhp tune. They appear to cost the same to tax for the 2005 year, but I'd imagine later V8's cost a bit more (maybe even double I'd imagine in this mad island).
I was also under the impression that the diesels 'lunch' the auto box more often, but I'd imagine they probably are fundamentally different in some way, even if it is just ratio's. The volume of diesels to petrol probably indicated they are about the same though.
I've had someone on Disco 3 contact me about a V8, but I'm thinking its too many miles (120k) as I just missed out on one today that had 56k and 1 previous owner (Black, HSE spec, cream leather) so they must exist ... somewhere.
I think getting some wanted posts out in as many places as possible, and contacting local garages saying what I'm after is a good starter for 10.
I've heard of the V8 Petrols covering mental mileage, but its the wear on everything else that I'm concerned about. At 100k + I'm thinking it immediately is going to be close to a suspension refresh, and whilst that isn't a huge problem as the car would cost considerably less, I find it tough to get past it in my mind - stupid, I know.
I will of course buy on condition, so if there is a mint 120k mile car out there, I'm unsurprisingly interested
conanius said:
I've heard of the V8 Petrols covering mental mileage, but its the wear on everything else that I'm concerned about. At 100k + I'm thinking it immediately is going to be close to a suspension refresh, and whilst that isn't a huge problem as the car would cost considerably less, I find it tough to get past it in my mind - stupid, I know.
I will of course buy on condition, so if there is a mint 120k mile car out there, I'm unsurprisingly interested
That's the ticket. Like I said, mine is nearly 100k and hasn't been too onerous on parts yet, but then neither was my previous L322 Rangie (also a V8 of course!), whereas wife's X5 seemed to like eating my wallet. For breakfast.I will of course buy on condition, so if there is a mint 120k mile car out there, I'm unsurprisingly interested
Oh and I forgot the other minor detail about the V8 - unlike the Loggie which has a 0-6 time measured in ice ages, the V8 is indecently quick for a three ton semi-detached house. Mid-range there isn't much in it, but particularly around the country lanes, it's nice having instant poke and being able to dash out of juntions or round tractors without having to really think about it.... whilst it remains serene and quiet, not like Beelzebub unleashing his bag of spanners under the bonnet.
Milage does not bother me as longs the vehicle has been maintained correctly and has not been maintained on a tight budget.
I got my land cruiser for a cracking price otherwise I would have got the petrol version for the reasons you mentioned. My disco is diesel as erm well I brought it with my heart but it was maintained to a high standard.
I got my land cruiser for a cracking price otherwise I would have got the petrol version for the reasons you mentioned. My disco is diesel as erm well I brought it with my heart
but it was maintained to a high standard. Edited by TLandCruiser on Monday 16th December 23:57
RedLeicester said:
A.J.M said:
black interior
Yuck!
Here we go again!
The V8 has an inch bigger disc's than the tdv6, the V8 upgrade is popular with diesel owners as it gives bigger braking effort for little outlay.
The V8 is faster by 3 or so seconds on the dash to 60 and overtaking would be equally better.
D3 members say the diesel is better for towing though, so swings and roundabouts really. You don't need to rev it to get the best from it, it has the low down torque that the V8 lacks.
However, given £800, i expect my log burner to give Red's V8 a run for it's money once i turn the wick up on it.
One remap, bigger IC, decat and exhaust for mine.The D3 gearbox is the same for both petrols and diesel's and is also fitted to the RRS TDV8 and supercharged models, failure is down to not changing the oil and filter, for years LR claimed it was a sealed for life box, ZF have in the last year said, it's not the case and oil changes should be done every 75-100k depending on if it tows or not.
EGR blanking is £60, and all diesels from the last decade and older have them fitted.
I get 22-25 average due to my nature of driving, for work i do lots of short town driving journeys with no huge amounts of motorway driving. The V8 would be mid teens for me at best...
Anyway, i wouldn't be taking much advice from a man who has in 60k of driving hasn't got rid of tacky chrome bits, has the wrong interior fitted and has tyres from 2005 fitted....
Out of interest, what performance (bhp, lb/ft, 0-60) do you expect post your £800 tune ?
I'd imagine then you will egr delete, so just two turbos and high pressure injection to worry about as the 'complicated diesel bits'
I'm off to look at a 2005 HSE at a local dealer that is a TD to see what it's like, but really unless something magical happens, it will just be a benchmark for the V8 I'm chatting to someone about already :-)
I'd imagine then you will egr delete, so just two turbos and high pressure injection to worry about as the 'complicated diesel bits'
I'm off to look at a 2005 HSE at a local dealer that is a TD to see what it's like, but really unless something magical happens, it will just be a benchmark for the V8 I'm chatting to someone about already :-)
Standard figures are 188 bhp, 325 lb ft or torque and 0-60 in 11 seconds.
A good remap will give 230-240bhp and about 400-425 lb ft or torque.
I can get a decat made up for £80-90.
An exhaust system for £280.
I'm waiting on my mechanic to give a final price for the cooler but I would expect it under £200. An alisport is £550 and is a smaller one.
I'm hoping for 260/270bhp once done, and over 450 lb ft of torque. 0-60 yikes don't bother me, I just want good mid range punch and a deep growl from the back.
My mechanic, myself and a mate will try and record the engine figures for standard, a decat, one with the exhaust and also with remap so we can see what the stages are like.
The 2.7 only has one turbo to worry about. Common issue is a sticky actuator, easily fixed for £6.
A good remap will give 230-240bhp and about 400-425 lb ft or torque.
I can get a decat made up for £80-90.
An exhaust system for £280.
I'm waiting on my mechanic to give a final price for the cooler but I would expect it under £200. An alisport is £550 and is a smaller one.
I'm hoping for 260/270bhp once done, and over 450 lb ft of torque. 0-60 yikes don't bother me, I just want good mid range punch and a deep growl from the back.
My mechanic, myself and a mate will try and record the engine figures for standard, a decat, one with the exhaust and also with remap so we can see what the stages are like.
The 2.7 only has one turbo to worry about. Common issue is a sticky actuator, easily fixed for £6.
A.J.M said:
Standard figures are 188 bhp, 325 lb ft or torque and 0-60 in 11 seconds.
A good remap will give 230-240bhp and about 400-425 lb ft or torque.
I can get a decat made up for £80-90.
An exhaust system for £280.
I'm waiting on my mechanic to give a final price for the cooler but I would expect it under £200. An alisport is £550 and is a smaller one.
I'm hoping for 260/270bhp once done, and over 450 lb ft of torque. 0-60 yikes don't bother me, I just want good mid range punch and a deep growl from the back.
My mechanic, myself and a mate will try and record the engine figures for standard, a decat, one with the exhaust and also with remap so we can see what the stages are like.
The 2.7 only has one turbo to worry about. Common issue is a sticky actuator, easily fixed for £6.
Oh really, I thought the 2.7 was a twin turbo diesel? is that only on the Jag? A good remap will give 230-240bhp and about 400-425 lb ft or torque.
I can get a decat made up for £80-90.
An exhaust system for £280.
I'm waiting on my mechanic to give a final price for the cooler but I would expect it under £200. An alisport is £550 and is a smaller one.
I'm hoping for 260/270bhp once done, and over 450 lb ft of torque. 0-60 yikes don't bother me, I just want good mid range punch and a deep growl from the back.
My mechanic, myself and a mate will try and record the engine figures for standard, a decat, one with the exhaust and also with remap so we can see what the stages are like.
The 2.7 only has one turbo to worry about. Common issue is a sticky actuator, easily fixed for £6.
Lovely figures, torque curve should be interesting
I only mentioned the 0-60 as 'a' figure, its the wrong car if you are chasing that stat !
A.J.M said:
Anyway, i wouldn't be taking much advice from a man who has in 60k of driving hasn't got rid of tacky chrome bits, has the wrong interior fitted and has tyres from 2005 fitted....
Tyres were fitted last winter
I didn't know about the gearbox thing, probably worth getting mine done next service then. I do regret not being able to tune the V8, I'd always intended to tweak a V6 if I couldn't find a decent V8, so go for it, it'll be ace!
I didn't give an update.
I went to see the TD V6 HSE Model locally yesterday. Lovely kit level, and certainly the sort of vehicle that I want to end up with. I purposely chose this one due to its mileage being comparable to.........
... the viewing on a V8 tomorrow. The current owner has very kindly sent me scans of all of the service history which I've spent the day going through. Still using a Main Dealer even now for servicing, and recently shod with 4 Goodyear Duratrac tyres. I think looking at the invoices this is a real example of 'no expense spared' motoring. Seems like it could be a good one.
Car looks good from the pictures, but need to see it up close and personal to be sure.
I went to see the TD V6 HSE Model locally yesterday. Lovely kit level, and certainly the sort of vehicle that I want to end up with. I purposely chose this one due to its mileage being comparable to.........
... the viewing on a V8 tomorrow. The current owner has very kindly sent me scans of all of the service history which I've spent the day going through. Still using a Main Dealer even now for servicing, and recently shod with 4 Goodyear Duratrac tyres. I think looking at the invoices this is a real example of 'no expense spared' motoring. Seems like it could be a good one.
Car looks good from the pictures, but need to see it up close and personal to be sure.
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