PH thoughts on the homage?
PH thoughts on the homage?
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phil_cardiff

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8,656 posts

239 months

Sunday 15th December 2013
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I've been considering the Seiko SNZF17K1 here http://www.creationwatches.com/products/seiko-dive...

It's a smart looking watch, clearly influenced by the Rolex Submariner. Is purchasing one the equivalent of putting a 355 body kit on a Toyota MR2 or a case of imitation being the sincerest form of flattery?

andy tims

5,606 posts

277 months

Sunday 15th December 2013
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Go for it.

grumbledoak

32,571 posts

264 months

Sunday 15th December 2013
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I would rather been seen wearing a Seiko than a Rolex! biggrin

Mr_C

2,508 posts

260 months

Sunday 15th December 2013
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I've got one. It's a nice watch. I wear it more than any of my other watches at the moment. It's on a brown leather strap but I've got an olive NATO for it too

phil_cardiff

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8,656 posts

239 months

Sunday 15th December 2013
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I'm definitely going to get one but can't decide between the black or pepsi version. It has to be a good all rounder, worn with jeans and a t-shirt but also a suit. Can't decide tonight.

panholio

1,109 posts

179 months

Sunday 15th December 2013
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I have one too. It's an excellent watch. Keeps time very well (better than my more expensive watches). Currently have it on a mesh bracelet.

The lack of a manual wind feature is annoying though...

yeti

10,704 posts

306 months

Sunday 15th December 2013
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Nah, hardy looks like a Sub, definitely had it's own feeling; day-date, no cyclops, minute markers on the rehaut etc.

Some of the Steinhart 'homages' are frankly embarassingly unoriginal. A shame as they produce some original designs which are great!

Revs_Addiction

2,090 posts

262 months

Sunday 15th December 2013
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It's not a homage, you're safe! wink

phil_cardiff

Original Poster:

8,656 posts

239 months

Sunday 15th December 2013
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Apologies for any inaccuracies, I'm not much of a horologist!

phil_cardiff

Original Poster:

8,656 posts

239 months

Monday 16th December 2013
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Well I've bought the black one. Can't wait for it to arrive.

Hoofy

80,167 posts

313 months

Monday 16th December 2013
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phil_cardiff said:
Apologies for any inaccuracies, I'm not much of a homagalist!
EFA?

TheJimi

27,790 posts

274 months

Monday 16th December 2013
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yeti said:
Nah, hardy looks like a Sub, definitely had it's own feeling; day-date, no cyclops, minute markers on the rehaut etc.

Some of the Steinhart 'homages' are frankly embarassingly unoriginal. A shame as they produce some original designs which are great!
Wot 'ee sed yes


westberks

1,461 posts

166 months

Monday 16th December 2013
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phil_cardiff said:
Well I've bought the black one. Can't wait for it to arrive.
good for you; personally do not see the likes of Seiko as homage when compared to some that blatantly copy a watch bar the logo.

R6VED

1,494 posts

171 months

Monday 16th December 2013
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Very nice, just looked on Amazon and it is about £20 more on there and being sold by CW too?

I rather fancy the SKX009K2 as I like the Jubilee bracelet.

I bought myself a brand new Rolex Explorer in August with the aim of quashing my desire to buy new watches as I thought I would never be able to afford anything better.

Didn't work I am a WIS. I can't stop looking at Seiko's on Amazon and have about 6 in my wish list but can't decide - thanks for making me add another one :-)

Edited by R6VED on Monday 16th December 16:00

Oelholm

321 posts

216 months

Monday 16th December 2013
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That's pretty far from a homage - would say that you are on safe grounds smile

Google "Alpha Submariner" for a laugh...

The watch looks good, though the (obvious choice) SKX007 is £18 more on a jubilee bracelet.

RobCh

151 posts

210 months

Monday 16th December 2013
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yeti said:
Nah, hardy looks like a Sub, definitely had it's own feeling; day-date, no cyclops, minute markers on the rehaut etc.

Some of the Steinhart 'homages' are frankly embarassingly unoriginal. A shame as they produce some original designs which are great!
I reckon Steinhart, as a young and small company, are still trying to find a distinctive design style of their own, so the relative safety of a homage or three may be sensible while they build up their skills, experience and customer base. Their own (relatively few) non-derivative designs still to me look as if they have are trying too hard - too many unnecessary bits of detail thrown in, and no sense of a coherent design approach behind it all from which a strong product family identity can emerge. At the moment their in-house watches come across as being developed piecemeal. I'm certain that a stronger visual style of their own will come eventually, and given that they make some good quality stuff and sell it at reasonable prices, I think they're a good thing even with the homages.

Hoofy

80,167 posts

313 months

Monday 16th December 2013
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Good point. I guess it depends on the direction a watch company wants to go. If they want to get established and sell more units then it's best to base their designs on recognised and liked ones such as the Rolex Sub. Alternatively, you have companies like Enzo Mechana and Kaventsmann Uhren producing unique designs but getting a small but strong fan-base of people who like those unusual designs.

RobCh

151 posts

210 months

Monday 16th December 2013
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Hoofy said:
Good point. I guess it depends on the direction a watch company wants to go. If they want to get established and sell more units then it's best to base their designs on recognised and liked ones such as the Rolex Sub. Alternatively, you have companies like Enzo Mechana and Kaventsmann Uhren producing unique designs but getting a small but strong fan-base of people who like those unusual designs.
Yes, there are certainly plenty of good examples of people/companies doing it differently and well. Kaventsmann seem to be very clear on the watches they want to make and the position they want in the marketplace, and are following a very small-scale specialised direction, whereas Steinhart arguably are testing the water on more broad-based appeal and value proposition for their brand. Room for both, undoubtedly.

yeti

10,704 posts

306 months

Monday 16th December 2013
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RobCh said:
I think they're a good thing even with the homages.
No argument for me; I periodically ave a look at them and there are some very desirable ones; I think my favourite is the 1655 Explorer II lookalike. Such an unknown watch generally that the homage is a smart idea.

I might as a beater...

RobCh

151 posts

210 months

Monday 16th December 2013
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yeti said:
No argument for me; I periodically ave a look at them and there are some very desirable ones; I think my favourite is the 1655 Explorer II lookalike. Such an unknown watch generally that the homage is a smart idea.

I might as a beater...
Two minds... It's my daily at the moment.