Is petrol going to get a lot cheaper ?
Is petrol going to get a lot cheaper ?
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zoom star

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519 posts

181 months

Tuesday 17th December 2013
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I saw an article on the BBC news the other night where it was stated that now the US has brokered some sort of deal, and also dropped sanctions against IRAN, IRAN stated that they were now planning on pumping and selling oil like no tomorrow.
Will this extra output lower the international price,lower price,equals lower petrol price, or will it be curbed,and the government control the price as usual and take the opertunity to raise the tax on it.

mcflurry

9,190 posts

283 months

Tuesday 17th December 2013
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zoom star said:
I saw an article on the BBC news the other night where it was stated that now the US has brokered some sort of deal, and also dropped sanctions against IRAN, IRAN stated that they were now planning on pumping and selling oil like no tomorrow.
Will this extra output lower the international price,lower price,equals lower petrol price, or will it be curbed,and the government control the price as usual and take the opertunity to raise the tax on it.
With the amount of duty and VAT on the pump price, I reckon it'll make the price change by about 2 pence biggrin


richwig83

15,798 posts

168 months

Tuesday 17th December 2013
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No

BOBTEE

1,034 posts

194 months

Tuesday 17th December 2013
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[quote]Is petrol going to get a lot cheaper
[/quote]

No.

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

234 months

Tuesday 17th December 2013
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rofl

Petrol cheaper silly

roflrofl

dave7692

683 posts

159 months

Tuesday 17th December 2013
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By the time that the savings trickle down to us through the various distribution levels it'll probably be about 2p, by which time something will have kicked off elsewhere causing a "shortage" and it'll shoot back up again although for some reason it always goes up overnight but takes weeks to come down scratchchin

tbc

3,017 posts

205 months

Tuesday 17th December 2013
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Just won't happen.

Dick Turpin and Boy George (UK Treasury and George Osbourne) know that fuel is a big money spinner. It is regardless of what the Greenpeace and the like say an essential staple.

Fuel sales generate income for the Treasury on a massive scale and therefore they think nothing of shafting the British public for all they are worth.

Nothing is given by the UK Government they always get it back off you somehow.

Unless of course you are a 'breeder' with 10 children by five different fathers. Then you seem to get everything.


Edited by tbc on Tuesday 17th December 11:29

Getragdogleg

10,233 posts

213 months

Tuesday 17th December 2013
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See "price fixing" and "Cartel" on Wikipedia for information on this topic !

Dave Hedgehog

16,351 posts

234 months

Tuesday 17th December 2013
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in theory there could be a petrol surplus as more and more people move over to diesel as crude is 47% petrol and 20% diesel

time to get a V12 smile

Devil2575

13,400 posts

218 months

Tuesday 17th December 2013
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If it results in a drop in the price of oil then it will potentially reduce the price of petrol. However the government could reverse it's decision on freezing the rise of fuel duty in that event.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/christopherhelman/2013...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-25083778

Matt UK

18,084 posts

230 months

Tuesday 17th December 2013
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McWigglebum4th said:
rofl

Petrol cheaper silly

roflrofl
Never a more apt use of the 'ol "+1"

sleep envy

62,260 posts

279 months

Tuesday 17th December 2013
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Yes, soon the govt will be paying us to use petrol.

SSBB

698 posts

186 months

Tuesday 17th December 2013
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The only way is up, baby, for you and me now...

UrbanLegend

15,169 posts

264 months

Tuesday 17th December 2013
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dave7692 said:
By the time that the savings trickle down to us through the various distribution levels it'll probably be about 2p, by which time something will have kicked off elsewhere causing a "shortage" and it'll shoot back up again although for some reason it always goes up overnight but takes weeks to come down scratchchin
Have you noticed how when a general price drop is announced, many garages put it up by the forecast reduction (or more) in advance of the price drop, so that after they have made the reduction it's still at the same price or slightly more.

Bastids!

Devil2575

13,400 posts

218 months

Tuesday 17th December 2013
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UrbanLegend said:
Have you noticed how when a general price drop is announced, many garages put it up by the forecast reduction (or more) in advance of the price drop, so that after they have made the reduction it's still at the same price or slightly more.
No I haven't.

boz1

425 posts

208 months

Tuesday 17th December 2013
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dave7692 said:
By the time that the savings trickle down to us through the various distribution levels it'll probably be about 2p, by which time something will have kicked off elsewhere causing a "shortage" and it'll shoot back up again although for some reason it always goes up overnight but takes weeks to come down scratchchin
I know this topic is often talked about on here and as a purchaser of petrol I find myself thinking the same. However, without wishing to be boring, I should point out that the OFT did look at this issue at the beginning of the year and concluded there wasn't a problem...

"Overall, on the basis of the evidence collected, it appears that competition in the UK road fuels sector is working relatively effectively. The significant rises in petrol and diesel prices that have occurred over the past 10 years have largely been caused by higher crude oil prices and increases in taxation. We have not found any evidence that competition problems have led to increases in pump prices and the margins being made by UK refiners, wholesalers and retailers do not appear to have contributed as significantly to increases in pump prices."


Full report:
http://www.oft.gov.uk/shared_oft/markets-work/oft1...

otolith

69,169 posts

234 months

Tuesday 17th December 2013
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jamieduff1981

8,092 posts

170 months

Tuesday 17th December 2013
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I rather hope the oil price doesn't crash as a result of Iran because if it does the OPEC nations will all run out of income, as will our home grown oil & gas industry where investment will vanish and many thousands employed directly and indirectly in the North Sea will be out of work. Many in the UK may not even be aware they are affected by a healthy oil industry.

There's a lot more to consider than just the pump price.

boz1

425 posts

208 months

Tuesday 17th December 2013
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jamieduff1981 said:
I rather hope the oil price doesn't crash as a result of Iran because if it does the OPEC nations will all run out of income, as will our home grown oil & gas industry where investment will vanish and many thousands employed directly and indirectly in the North Sea will be out of work. Many in the UK may not even be aware they are affected by a healthy oil industry.

There's a lot more to consider than just the pump price.
While a significant fall in the price would have an effect on whether North Sea oil extraction is economically viable and therefore on jobs and investment in our oil industry, it would still quite clearly be overall net positive impact on the economy as a whole.

thatdude

2,660 posts

157 months

Tuesday 17th December 2013
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The prices of petrol shot up, and we all still paid those prices. So if the businesses see the customer is fine paying that (no loss in sales, no public outcry like there was a decade or so ago with big protests and shortages) then why lower the prices?

When I started riding motorcycles 7 years ago, I could fill up 13 litres for about £12. Now its around £18.

I get happy when I pay closer to £18 than to £19