Tyres losing grip - how often?
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Reading a few threads on PH (particularly the winter tyres thread) I'm surprised at how many drivers seem to lose grip/traction on a regular basis. I like to think I drive fairly spiritedly when circumstances allow, I get to drive a wide range of cars (from 63bhp Micras up to 230bhp BMWs) and in over 20 years of driving I've lost grip once (travelling @4mph downhill on sheet ice).
Do people deliberately drive close to the limit or is it simply poor assessment of road conditions?
When was the last time you skidded and why?
Do people deliberately drive close to the limit or is it simply poor assessment of road conditions?
When was the last time you skidded and why?
Ive broken traction under acceleration a few times in the last 2 years.
Some people on here to tend to post as though they go every where sideways.
Perhaps they do. Who knows? This is a car forum after all, and as long as they arent crashing into stuff and putting the public at danger with their sideways antics then it doesnt bother me, personally.
Even when i had my S Type R, it took some serious ham-footed-ness to break traction in a straight line, even in the wet.
Some people on here to tend to post as though they go every where sideways.
Perhaps they do. Who knows? This is a car forum after all, and as long as they arent crashing into stuff and putting the public at danger with their sideways antics then it doesnt bother me, personally.
Even when i had my S Type R, it took some serious ham-footed-ness to break traction in a straight line, even in the wet.
Are you honestly saying you have never got a small amount of wheel spin coming out of a slippery junction? Never deliberately hooned out of a junction lighting up the rears giving it way more power than needed? Or maybe locked a wheel or 4, driving a car with no ABS. Thrown a car about a bit on an empty gravel car park? Tried the emergency change of direction handle when no one was looking? Gone silly in a snowy car park?
Obviously I have never done any of these, ever, oh look my Brake membership pack has arrived!
Obviously I have never done any of these, ever, oh look my Brake membership pack has arrived!
Far too often, any quiet open sighted corner/roundabout when the situation allows.
Th car isn't massively powered either, 286bhp & 300lb/ft wt last dyno run (had manifold and turbo back 3" since then) but the car lends itself to it quite well. Will spin up third if it's ever so slightly damp.
Th car isn't massively powered either, 286bhp & 300lb/ft wt last dyno run (had manifold and turbo back 3" since then) but the car lends itself to it quite well. Will spin up third if it's ever so slightly damp.
When I had my MR2, pretty much every day on my way home from work at the same roundabout.
Now in the Focus, I merrier under steer my way around the same roundabout laughing at the crap grip and hilarious squealing of my "Mohawk" front tyres.
On the bike, it's less so. Last time was laying black lines in the middle of summer on a trackday. Rear was just starting to spin.
Now in the Focus, I merrier under steer my way around the same roundabout laughing at the crap grip and hilarious squealing of my "Mohawk" front tyres.
On the bike, it's less so. Last time was laying black lines in the middle of summer on a trackday. Rear was just starting to spin.
Almost every day...for hours.
On the drive to work yesterday I was cornering at about 1g, lifted off the throttle...the balance of the car shifted..no opposite lock required. Not really losing grip, but great fun.
Got to work. After an hour of prep, I spent the next 7 hours sliding around, doing tyre tests. Losing grip? Yes.
Leave work, messing with the balance of the car on the way home...it never gets boring.
On the drive to work yesterday I was cornering at about 1g, lifted off the throttle...the balance of the car shifted..no opposite lock required. Not really losing grip, but great fun.
Got to work. After an hour of prep, I spent the next 7 hours sliding around, doing tyre tests. Losing grip? Yes.
Leave work, messing with the balance of the car on the way home...it never gets boring.
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