Heat and sound shielding
Heat and sound shielding
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Alex93

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115 posts

148 months

Wednesday 18th December 2013
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What product have people used to shield heat and/or sound from the cockpit? Just looking to purchase some for my build but with that many to choose from I thought I'd ask you guys. I imagine everyone has an opinion so why have people used what they have? Thoughts?
Alex

UltimaCH

3,181 posts

211 months

Wednesday 18th December 2013
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I've used Thermo-Tec stuff in my build.

Alex93

Original Poster:

115 posts

148 months

Wednesday 18th December 2013
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Which? Thermo-guard?

356Speedster

2,294 posts

253 months

Wednesday 18th December 2013
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Heat shielding: DEI reflect-a-gold
Sound proofing: FatMat Max

UltimaCH

3,181 posts

211 months

Wednesday 18th December 2013
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Alex93 said:
Which? Thermo-guard?
Cool-It Mat and Gold heat barrier. I'll be covering the fuel tanks with Thermo-Shield

BarPilot

174 posts

157 months

Wednesday 18th December 2013
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This stuff



Alex93

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115 posts

148 months

Wednesday 18th December 2013
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BarPilot said:
This stuff

Looks very nice! Did you use a specific adhesive or will any contact adhesive do?

DHGTR

1,196 posts

265 months

Wednesday 18th December 2013
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What have you used above the cross brace? Are you boxing in the roll bar?

leem5

243 posts

238 months

Wednesday 18th December 2013
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356Speedster said:
Heat shielding: DEI reflect-a-gold
Sound proofing: FatMat Max
This is what we have gone for too. Would post a picture but not sure how! Though the build is on a Twitter feed if you'd like the link.

Alex93

Original Poster:

115 posts

148 months

Wednesday 18th December 2013
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leem5 said:
This is what we have gone for too. Would post a picture but not sure how! Though the build is on a Twitter feed if you'd like the link.
Yeah send the link please

Storer

5,024 posts

237 months

Wednesday 18th December 2013
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Do be aware that some products used for acoustic proofing the car do so by turning the sound into heat, so you solve one problem and create another....


Paul

Alex93

Original Poster:

115 posts

148 months

Wednesday 18th December 2013
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Storer said:
Do be aware that some products used for acoustic proofing the car do so by turning the sound into heat, so you solve one problem and create another....


Paul
True, maybe then multiple layers of different materials of differing thermal conductivity would help this?

BarPilot

174 posts

157 months

Thursday 19th December 2013
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For the bulkhead above the cross race I'll be using DEI reflect but I can't fit that until the body is on as mine is the full welded roll cage. The Mat comes with adhesive already and is sticky as!

The thermotec you can see in my upload is between the two skins so the DEI will hopefully reduce temperatures before they reach the acoustic layer.

356Speedster

2,294 posts

253 months

Thursday 19th December 2013
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Alex93 said:
Yeah send the link please
Here you go Alex......

I put FatMat on both side skins, in the floor cavity, in the rear bulkhead cavity, in a front bulkhead cavity I made and on the sides / back of the luggage pods. I insulated the radiator pipes too (as you can see in the pics below).

I used DEI Reflect-a-Gold on the radiator facing side of the front bulkhead, in the engine bay on the upper & lower portions of the bulkhead (see pic below), on the ending facing sides of the fuel tanks, on the outside of the airbox and I lined the inside of the rear clam with it too (instead of using the factory supplied mat).

Hope these help!




Alex93

Original Poster:

115 posts

148 months

Thursday 19th December 2013
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Thank you! Aside from the positive effects on heat levels, it looks nice too! I'll certainly be using some in my build. Thanks for the help

UltimaCH

3,181 posts

211 months

Thursday 19th December 2013
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Mark, now that you have done some trips and travels with the Spyder, what is your opinion with the insulation solutions? I'm principally interested in the heat insulation aspect, not so much the sound as the intake is next to your ears and there is nothing you can do about that, except perhaps wear ear plugs, but then where is the pleasure of not listening to your V8 breath and live biggrin

As the Factory feels no insulation is necessary, are there any owners with Factory build vehicles (without insulation I imagine), it would be also nice to hear from them too.

356Speedster

2,294 posts

253 months

Thursday 19th December 2013
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UltimaCH said:
Mark, now that you have done some trips and travels with the Spyder, what is your opinion with the insulation solutions? I'm principally interested in the heat insulation aspect, not so much the sound as the intake is next to your ears and there is nothing you can do about that, except perhaps wear ear plugs, but then where is the pleasure of not listening to your V8 breath and live biggrin

As the Factory feels no insulation is necessary, are there any owners with Factory build vehicles (without insulation I imagine), it would be also nice to hear from them too.
Well, as you know, my car isn't exactly std, so that's my first caveat ;-) Regarding noise, I have a custom intake ontop of the engine that breathes thru' the intake on the front of the clamshell, right next to my head...... the noise is AWESOME! Not too loud, but completely intoxicating! I can still listen to music on the CarPC (via hidden under dash speakers) no problems.

Regarding insulation, it's definitely doing a good job of cutting down the heat coming into the cabin. I've been in a few non-insulated cars and the difference is obvious. In my car, the side & bulkhead panels don't heat up at all. Heat transmitted into the cabin is coming from the water pipes looping into the under dash area & the matrix, radiating from the front GRP and then of course out of the radiator and up over the aeroscreen.

Over the winter, I'm going put some lagging on the water pipes to cut that radiant heat and then some further insulation on the inside of the dash GRP, as well as some more Reflect-a-Gold on the GRP in the battery area. That should cut things further still.

On the main radiator tubes, the lagging also works very well in cutting the radiant heat into the cabin. And it's not impacted engine cooling either (as many on here said it would do). Water warms up quickly and temps are controlled by the rad fans without a problem, even in stop-start 30 degree heat for hours on end!

In short, yes, the insulation is well worth it. I've not found a single downside / issue with the work I've done in this area, it's all thumbs up from me!

crossram

291 posts

146 months

Sunday 22nd December 2013
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Thermo Tec is a superior product and it sticks to aluminum really well