Help please - Golf TDI 'miss-firing'
Help please - Golf TDI 'miss-firing'
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ean21

Original Poster:

421 posts

229 months

Wednesday 18th December 2013
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its a W-reg 1.9 tdi (pre-PD) engine with 200,000 miles, and it has started miss-firing really badly. Here's the symptoms, any ideas?

Does it hot or cold.
Has not been recently refuelled. Has 1/4 tank of 2-week old fuel in it.
Tickover is fine, and it starts instantly.
On light throttle it sounds like it's dropping to 3 cylinders, and then it is smoky.
Its better on full throttle, but drops dead (cuts out) at c.3000rpm
It is not smoky when its not missfiring
Glow plug light is flashing after a lot of missfiring
Glow plug light will not come on if driven full-throttle/no-throttle only (tricky!!)
ABS light has come on as well. ABS is not functioning.
Turbo is sounding normal
Exhaust has a leak just after the cat
No bubbles visible in the clear fuel pipe
Disconnecting vacuum from EGR has no effect.
Bizarrely it seems fine in reverse.
No fault codes showing on OBDII codereader.

Any ideas?


conkerman

3,517 posts

165 months

Wednesday 18th December 2013
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Check for the following.

Split/broken boost pipes.

Unplug the MAF and see if that makes any difference.

Might be worth finding someone who has VAGCOM to have a poke about.

steveo3002

11,212 posts

204 months

Wednesday 18th December 2013
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if its fine in reverse then have a good look round , a work or broken engine mount might be allowing a hose to get kinked or something

hedges88

690 posts

175 months

Wednesday 18th December 2013
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Check the coil pack

mwstewart

8,579 posts

218 months

Wednesday 18th December 2013
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hedges88 said:
Check the coil pack
silly

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

220 months

Wednesday 18th December 2013
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With a diesel it has to be fuel as it's compression ignition. Check for a split fuel line sucking in air, can be hard to spot. If it isn't this, then it's likely to be injector related, either the injector itself or something electrical preventing it from working properly.

I've encountered both of these, the first on a Pug 106 diesel and the latter a wiring loom fault on a Td5 Disco.

SSBB

698 posts

186 months

Wednesday 18th December 2013
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hedges88 said:
Check the coil pack
Good luck finding this...

*Al*

3,830 posts

252 months

Wednesday 18th December 2013
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SSBB said:
hedges88 said:
Check the coil pack
Good luck finding this...
Ah true, how silly! It must be the spark plug then. smile

sleep envy

62,260 posts

279 months

Wednesday 18th December 2013
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SSBB said:
hedges88 said:
Check the coil pack
Good luck finding this...
If it's missing that's the cause of the miss-fire.

oh yes

spats

838 posts

185 months

Wednesday 18th December 2013
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could be the injector loom breaking down.

One side isnt supported very well and after 200k of vibrating diesel action its prone to failure.

Happened to ours and the part was about 40 quid. Get someone to VAGCOM the car to show the fault, or get yourself a cheap ebay code reader which is what I did to diagnose ours.

ean21

Original Poster:

421 posts

229 months

Wednesday 18th December 2013
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Thanks all, some stuff for me to be checking there.

ean21

Original Poster:

421 posts

229 months

Friday 20th December 2013
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Update -
The weather's been too nasty to go outside and fiddle with the car, so I nipped to a friendly garage and got the codes read properly.

Its showing as an intermittent electrical failure at the diesel pump. Which is quite bad news as that'll be expensive. The good news is that disconnecting and reconnecting the plug has fixed it, so it seems like just a dicky connection, fingers crossed.

BGarside

1,568 posts

167 months

Friday 20th December 2013
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Has it fired it's mistress?

hedges88

690 posts

175 months

Friday 20th December 2013
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*Al* said:
SSBB said:
hedges88 said:
Check the coil pack
Good luck finding this...
Ah true, how silly! It must be the spark plug then. smile
smile Clearly I didn't read the words T, D and I boxedin