led headlights

[V8Dom]

hi

just had the new Peugeot 308 delivered with led headlights, dip and main,, tail, fog, indicator etc etc fitted

got me thinking about the ppor dip beams on the ultima... can we fit after market led bulbs to brighten things up? anyone tried the led route not the hud route?

thanks dom

[macgtech]

V8Dom said:

hi

just had the new Peugeot 308 delivered with led headlights, dip and main,, tail, fog, indicator etc etc fitted

got me thinking about the ppor dip beams on the ultima... can we fit after market led bulbs to brighten things up? anyone tried the led route not the hud route?

thanks dom

Hi Dom,

Its a bit different, but we are redesigning our front headlight pods to fit LED's all round - proper Cree units - not just aftermarket bulbs. Will keep you posted with the results.

Jonny

[UltimaCH]

I,m interested

[Verde]

I am interested as well.
Thx,
V

[Steve_D]

This may not apply to those who have replied to this thread but it is worth noting that LED or HID lights require self leveling and washer systems for IVA test.

However, at this time, an MOT test only requires that level and wash systems work 'if fitted' without them actually being a requirement.

Steve

[JohnMcL]

There could be scope for satisfying the IVA requirement.

Note 3: Where vehicles are fitted with Gas Discharge or LED Headlamps, the requirement for automatic headlamp self-levelling system or self-levelling suspension shall be deemed to be complied with where evidence is provided at the application stage that the vehicle meets the requirements of 6.2.6.1.2 of ECE Regulation 48.03 in all loading conditions.

Washing is a good idea anyway and “E” marked lamps exist so the challenge is to meet the regs for levelling.

Reg. 48, revision 9, 18 Feb. 2013 is about:
Uniform Provisions concerning the approval of vehicles with regard to the installation of lighting and light-signalling devices.
6.2.6.1.2 sets the standard for dipped beam inclination and the limits for variation under conditionns of load.

Annex 5 describes the various loadings of people, luggage and fuel.

Annex 6 shows how to measure.

An Ultima or similar is likely to satisfy the regulation so the evidence could be provided at the application stage for IVA.

VOSA note to MOT stations already provides:-
“It is also worthy of note that a few high performance vehicles fitted with HID headlamps that have barely any luggage space and stiff suspension do not require a self-levelling system.”

The only downside is that the measurement is needed for every car.

[Steve_D]

JohnMcL said:

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The only downside is that the measurement is needed for every car.

I also think the 'Evidence' would have to come from a recognised test house.

Steve

[V8Dom]

Steve_D said:

This may not apply to those who have replied to this thread but it is worth noting that LED or HID lights require self leveling and washer systems for IVA test.

However, at this time, an MOT test only requires that level and wash systems work 'if fitted' without them actually being a requirement.

Steve

hi Steve
the new 308 doesn't have self levelling or washers as standard. so if a production car doesn't maybe we will be ok?

[Steve_D]

V8Dom said:

Steve_D said:

This may not apply to those who have replied to this thread but it is worth noting that LED or HID lights require self leveling and washer systems for IVA test.

However, at this time, an MOT test only requires that level and wash systems work 'if fitted' without them actually being a requirement.

Steve

hi Steve
the new 308 doesn't have self levelling or washers as standard. so if a production car doesn't maybe we will be ok?

As I said maybe not for MOT but at this time it is written into the IVA manual and is quite clear.

Steve

[V8Dom]

any updates guys on this or even what bulbs people are using.. looking for mega bright dip beam as im tinting headlight covers and dont want to loose visability....:0)

[Pedders]

I need to source the headlights for my build. It's more likely that I will end up buying the factory items for ease, but quite fancied incorporating something like this:

http://www.carbuildersolutions.com/uk/70mm-project...

to give a more modern look - I have seen similar units advertised as meeting IVA requirements.

[tjlees]

V8Dom said:

any updates guys on this or even what bulbs people are using.. looking for mega bright dip beam as im tinting headlight covers and dont want to loose visability....:0)

You chav

Next you will be tinting the side windows ... wait that's me!

Seriously where are those LED headlights - they will look the dogs bks - I mean turn night into day.

[ROWDYRENAULT]

First of all I applaud all of my fellow ultima owners in England for attaining their law degree in order to avoid the pit falls of IVA. The 70mm light shown above is the same as the Hella unit I used on my 27 ford lakester. From Hella it was a couple of times more expensive then shown on the link above. But its a Hella unit and the quality is very high and the performance is incredible. If the quality and name are worth the money is up to the individual, just thought I would share. Lee

[macgtech]

Ours are unbelievable - so bright that the photographers were complaining when we had them on on a bright sunny day!

We have 4 units, each with a 2800LM and a 400m penetration range.

Also have a light bar to fit for night races - all of this with less Ampage than 2 x 50W bulbs.

Find them here:

http://www.wildernesslighting.co.uk/wilderness-lig...

They are also incredibly robust. Highly recommended!

[UltimaCH]

I imagine they are not road legal as I didn't find anything saying so in the description. In any case, LED's are the future, so guess we need to wait some more before seeing something which could be used on a road going Ultima and pass all the inspections and tests...

[macgtech]

UltimaCH said:

I imagine they are not road legal as I didn't find anything saying so in the description. In any case, LED's are the future, so guess we need to wait some more before seeing something which could be used on a road going Ultima and pass all the inspections and tests...

When I spoke to them a few months ago they were awaiting CE marking (due imminently at the time) which would enable them to be used on the road.

[UltimaCH]

macgtech said:

When I spoke to them a few months ago they were awaiting CE marking (due imminently at the time) which would enable them to be used on the road.

Ah, that's good to know. I'll be following up

[tjlees]

UltimaCH said:

I imagine they are not road legal as I didn't find anything saying so in the description. In any case, LED's are the future, so guess we need to wait some more before seeing something which could be used on a road going Ultima and pass all the inspections and tests...

50,000+ hour lifespan
5 years continuous use
94% optical reflector efficiency
Unbreakable & scratch resistant lens on both sides
6063 Aluminum housing
Durable UV resistant painting technology
9-36 Volt DC input
Low power consumption
Instant on/off, no warm up
Over/under voltage protection
Sealed waterproof connector
Operating temp -40 ~ +145 deg
IP69K Rating (water & dust proof at high pressure & high temperatures)
CE & Rohs certification
MIL810-STDG vibration certified
Shock proof
Salt & fog certified
Waterproof housing
Off road use only

[BogBeast]

http://www.bmac.ltd.uk/pbrowser/shop/shop.php?acti...

BMAC Duo-Lux LED Headlights

Note the cheapest but are E approved

http://www.incarmotorfactors.co.uk/en/11118402-lig...

[Pedders]

BogBeast said:

http://www.bmac.ltd.uk/pbrowser/shop/shop.php?acti...

BMAC Duo-Lux LED Headlights

Note the cheapest but are E approved

http://www.incarmotorfactors.co.uk/en/11118402-lig...

Smart. Incidentally, am I right in thinking that, of the three head lamp units in each side (excluding the indicator) the standard set up involves one for dipped beam, and two for main beam (one of which incorporates a side light)?

Many thanks.