Last day weird behaviour
Discussion
So today is my last day.
I found it very odd that my Managers boss (the Technical Director) who I've dealt with on a regular basis when he is over (he's French) has gone back to France with not so much as a "thanks" or a "good luck".
I'm not sure why but it's pissed me off quite a lot.
Do I do/say anything, or sit safe in the knowledge it's not the role/company for me?!
I found it very odd that my Managers boss (the Technical Director) who I've dealt with on a regular basis when he is over (he's French) has gone back to France with not so much as a "thanks" or a "good luck".
I'm not sure why but it's pissed me off quite a lot.
Do I do/say anything, or sit safe in the knowledge it's not the role/company for me?!
You need to act with integrity and with a strong moral code. Many industries are small and people move around, so I would "suck it up" and move on with good conscience. The moral highground is better than a chain of e-mails/conversations with colleagues which can come back to haunt you
The jiffle king said:
You need to act with integrity and with a strong moral code. Many industries are small and people move around, so I would "suck it up" and move on with good conscience. The moral highground is better than a chain of e-mails/conversations with colleagues which can come back to haunt you
You're right, thank you! It is however very tempting! For the record this is a different role/industry to "my norm" and I've no intention of being back in that industry, but fully agree not to burn any bridges.
Well there is nothing you can do or say that will make any difference anyway.
As for him, you are probably not that high on his list of priorities, as an employer someone leaving is another problem, it isn't something that makes them grateful to you or pleased with you. There is no more reason for him to seek you out than for you to seek him out and thank him for working there etc. etc.
As for him, you are probably not that high on his list of priorities, as an employer someone leaving is another problem, it isn't something that makes them grateful to you or pleased with you. There is no more reason for him to seek you out than for you to seek him out and thank him for working there etc. etc.
Edited by Siscar on Friday 20th December 09:19
I left my last employer in Sep 2012 after 15 years. Of my 4 managers (I'm a PA), only one even said goodbye. I did feel bitter about it for a while but figured that life was too short to get hung up about absent farewells from people I may never see again. That's not to say that you shouldn't maintain the moral high ground, though!
You are a cog in a machine. The cog needs maintaining while it's part of the machine to ensure reliable working in the future. You've chosen to be a cog in a different machine, so the maintenance of you stopped, to focus attention on maintaining other cogs.
You leaving is important to you. It's a big event for you. For them it's just a bit of a personnel change. Once your work is handed over why must anybody else care? Some might care. But why this desperation that everybody has to? Baffles me.
You leaving is important to you. It's a big event for you. For them it's just a bit of a personnel change. Once your work is handed over why must anybody else care? Some might care. But why this desperation that everybody has to? Baffles me.
Munter said:
You are a cog in a machine. The cog needs maintaining while it's part of the machine to ensure reliable working in the future. You've chosen to be a cog in a different machine, so the maintenance of you stopped, to focus attention on maintaining other cogs.
You leaving is important to you. It's a big event for you. For them it's just a bit of a personnel change. Once your work is handed over why must anybody else care? Some might care. But why this desperation that everybody has to? Baffles me.
This. It's work, not your last day at school.You leaving is important to you. It's a big event for you. For them it's just a bit of a personnel change. Once your work is handed over why must anybody else care? Some might care. But why this desperation that everybody has to? Baffles me.
People are focusing on their jobs, their lives, their responsibilities.
You may get a few people wishing you well - one would hope so. But some people just aren't the 'goodbye' sort.
Remember, these people are colleagues, not friends.
I've had a few people leave who seem to have expected some tearful fanfare on departure from the building where we all get down on our knees and beg them to stay. My 10 second 'goodbye, good luck' (if I'm in the office) seems to deflate them a little.
It's not intentionally unkind, it's just business.
Munter said:
You are a cog in a machine. The cog needs maintaining while it's part of the machine to ensure reliable working in the future. You've chosen to be a cog in a different machine, so the maintenance of you stopped, to focus attention on maintaining other cogs.
You leaving is important to you. It's a big event for you. For them it's just a bit of a personnel change.
This, I'm afraid. You leaving is important to you. It's a big event for you. For them it's just a bit of a personnel change.
When I resigned from my previous employer, I got locked out of the entire company operating system for the duration of my 30 day notice period, and they sent someone over from the UK (I was working in China as a lone representative of the company) to watch over me for the final week, and ensure I'd vacated the apartment rented for my residence, and indeed escorted me to the port to ensure I'd left the country!
shakotan said:
When I resigned from my previous employer, I got locked out of the entire company operating system for the duration of my 30 day notice period, and they sent someone over from the UK (I was working in China as a lone representative of the company) to watch over me for the final week, and ensure I'd vacated the apartment rented for my residence, and indeed escorted me to the port to ensure I'd left the country!
Last time I was told to go on gardening leave within an hour of being told I was being made redundant. I didn't complain too much!shakotan said:
When I resigned from my previous employer, I got locked out of the entire company operating system for the duration of my 30 day notice period, and they sent someone over from the UK (I was working in China as a lone representative of the company) to watch over me for the final week, and ensure I'd vacated the apartment rented for my residence, and indeed escorted me to the port to ensure I'd left the country!
The not saying goodbye as mentioned by OP - I can kind of see why that's annoying if you've done very good work for that manager. But those things happen.But whats mentioned above in the post that ive quoted - im sorry but that sort of nonsense from companies just p
s me off. People rightly talk about not burning bridges with a company as you may be working with them again etc - quite right too.
But this stupid childish behaviour of locking people out of company computer systems - and escorting you out of the gate - is just
inducing.Its certainly one way to completely turn one off from working from that company again - nothing quite sends the signal - "we don't like you", "please f
k off" "Can't wait to get rid of you" - quite as well as having someone escort you off the premises or indeed lock you out of the work system you need to do your job.I can kind of see why companies do it - but tbh - if you have that little trust in the employee that's leaving - for whatever reason - just put them on gardening leave for the notice period.
Rant over
Munter said:
You are a cog in a machine. The cog needs maintaining while it's part of the machine to ensure reliable working in the future. You've chosen to be a cog in a different machine, so the maintenance of you stopped, to focus attention on maintaining other cogs.
You leaving is important to you. It's a big event for you. For them it's just a bit of a personnel change. Once your work is handed over why must anybody else care? Some might care. But why this desperation that everybody has to? Baffles me.
LOL I'd agree if The Bosses just carried on as normal however do go out of their way to ignore, annoy and/or cock things up for people on their way out smacks of madness to me. Boot on the other foot I'd wish them well and carry on as normal, small world and all that.You leaving is important to you. It's a big event for you. For them it's just a bit of a personnel change. Once your work is handed over why must anybody else care? Some might care. But why this desperation that everybody has to? Baffles me.
TX.
davepoth said:
Last time I was told to go on gardening leave within an hour of being told I was being made redundant. I didn't complain too much!
Fair point - but the situation in the post both you and I have quoted seems different - the poster was still working for the company (abroad) - and in all fairness locking someone out of a computer system and escorting them out of the accommodation is a bit taking the urine really.And as for making sure they left the country - once you've left the company premises and have finished the work to be done - what the
does it matter whether hes left the country or not.If you've got a good worker - who has done great work for you - then a bit of professionalism and respect can't be too much to expect surely.
Sir Fergie said:
shakotan said:
When I resigned from my previous employer, I got locked out of the entire company operating system for the duration of my 30 day notice period, and they sent someone over from the UK (I was working in China as a lone representative of the company) to watch over me for the final week, and ensure I'd vacated the apartment rented for my residence, and indeed escorted me to the port to ensure I'd left the country!
The not saying goodbye as mentioned by OP - I can kind of see why that's annoying if you've done very good work for that manager. But those things happen.But whats mentioned above in the post that ive quoted - im sorry but that sort of nonsense from companies just p
s me off. People rightly talk about not burning bridges with a company as you may be working with them again etc - quite right too.
But this stupid childish behaviour of locking people out of company computer systems - and escorting you out of the gate - is just
inducing.Its certainly one way to completely turn one off from working from that company again - nothing quite sends the signal - "we don't like you", "please f
k off" "Can't wait to get rid of you" - quite as well as having someone escort you off the premises or indeed lock you out of the work system you need to do your job.I can kind of see why companies do it - but tbh - if you have that little trust in the employee that's leaving - for whatever reason - just put them on gardening leave for the notice period.
Rant over
shakotan said:
The company was run like a school. The owner was a physical incarnate of Mr Burns from The Simpsons, both in physical form and his attitude. You'd get sent home if you didn't wear a tie to the office, you weren't allowed an opinion and could only speak when spoken to.
It wasn't based in Notts and specialised in Payroll/HR software and services by any chance was it?Gassing Station | Jobs & Employment Matters | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff