Looking at used Golf R (Mk6) - tips?

[orangebaresi]

I'm currently considering getting a 2010-2011 Golf R (Mk6) and have a few questions that I'd like some input on:

1) Manual or DSG
I've never driven a DSG before but my main concern is the relaibility and running costs associated with this technology. Is DSG more expensive to maintain and replace than a manual? What are the important milestones and what is the expected working life for a DSG system?

2) Cambelt/timing chain?
Firstly, I've read conflicting literature about what the Golf R has. Can anyone confirm and what is the difference? If it's a timing chain, does this really last as long as the engine or does it need to be replaced at similar internvals to a cambelt?

3) Any other useful suggestiosn on what to look out for?

Cheers

Orangebaresi

[Dr G]

1) By personal preference. DSG box needs an oil change very 38k and this is important. Failures of this installation of the DSG/S-Tronic box are rare. They're good for the power even when mildly tuned.

2) Belt. The Golf R did not migrate to the newer 2.0T (EA888 range) when the rest of the range did. VW say every 4 years or 60k. Audi say 5 years or 75. VW/Audi America say 115k. Go figure.

[SMB]

I went Scirocco R instead of Golf in the end, I was willing to trade a bit of practicality for the lower/wider body, and the Golf was just not to me as much fun, almost too competent.

I went DSG ( first auto ever) and it takes time to learn how to get the best out of it, it makes for a very rapid cross country car. With a knee issue and regular rush hour trips round the mM25, dsg makes it easy. I prefer to drive in manual mode once away from traffic though. I may even have the dsg service at 3 years rather than 40k just to be sure.

Things to look for at that age
- accident damage/repair
- belt change coming up soon, and haldex service
- tyres, not cheap if 19"
- and usual performance car stuff

[AndrewJB]

Dr G said:

1) They're good for the power even when mildly tuned.

Guess you aint seen APR's Golf R

Mildy tuned aint the word haha

[Dr G]

I've chased Milltek's one around Castle Combe...

...then watched it drive away on the straighter bits

I was referring to the gearbox re. power - I realise the cars are massively tunable too of course. We've one service customer with the best part of 400 PS in a completely standard looking S3. I've driven a fair few with 'just' a map on and they're plenty rapid for me.

[AndrewJB]

Yep think APR's was about 450ps it was mad, DSG coped well

[orangebaresi]

Thanks for the advice.

Next step is to test drive one with DSG and continue to scan the classifieds.

[chrisx666]

orangebaresi said:

Thanks for the advice.

Next step is to test drive one with DSG and continue to scan the classifieds.

You can lease a brand new manual mk7 R for £2250 down then £269 a month for 24 months inc. VAT. Probably a lot cheaper than a used one if you can wait for delivery?

[orangebaresi]

chrisx666 - is that via ano fficial vw dealer?

I've looked into some lease deals but still can't get comfortable with the concept of pcp/lease as opposed to owning outright. However, those figures you mention would cause me to seriously creconsider my approach to car ownership...

[folos]

chrisx666 said:

You can lease a brand new manual mk7 R for £2250 down then £269 a month for 24 months inc. VAT. Probably a lot cheaper than a used one if you can wait for delivery?

Where is this deal? Sounds like a VERY tempting proposition for replacing my mk5 R32 next year.

Edit, if I can find this deal i'll sell my R now and waft about in a bargain barge for a few months while I wait

Edited by folos on Tuesday 31st December 12:03

[chrisx666]

http://www.bluechillicars.com/personal-contract-hi...

I ordered one last week. Adding 5dr, Nav and metallic paint upped it to £302 a month inc. VAT but still too tempting to miss..

[va1o]

chrisx666 said:

http://www.bluechillicars.com/personal-contract-hi...

I ordered one last week. Adding 5dr, Nav and metallic paint upped it to £302 a month inc. VAT but still too tempting to miss..

That looks like an awesome deal, quite amusing that its cheaper than the GTD

How much does the DSG 'box add?

[folos]

chrisx666 said:

http://www.bluechillicars.com/personal-contract-hi...

I ordered one last week. Adding 5dr, Nav and metallic paint upped it to £302 a month inc. VAT but still too tempting to miss..

Incredible, thanks! When will yours be delivered?

[chrisx666]

I actually requested a later delivery for May (to sync with my current lease and insurance etc. and I didn't want to miss the deal as the allocation is limited). The chap said they were looking at late March otherwise. I didn't ask for a DSG quote but from past experience I would guess at £25-£35 per month extra.

[folos]

chrisx666 said:

http://www.bluechillicars.com/personal-contract-hi...

I ordered one last week. Adding 5dr, Nav and metallic paint upped it to £302 a month inc. VAT but still too tempting to miss..

Incredible, thanks! When will yours be delivered?

[FamilyDub]

chrisx666 said:

http://www.bluechillicars.com/personal-contract-hi...

I ordered one last week. Adding 5dr, Nav and metallic paint upped it to £302 a month inc. VAT but still too tempting to miss..

You're sure it's a Mk7 R...? That seems almost too good to be true!

[chrisx666]

FamilyDub said:

chrisx666 said:

http://www.bluechillicars.com/personal-contract-hi...

I ordered one last week. Adding 5dr, Nav and metallic paint upped it to £302 a month inc. VAT but still too tempting to miss..

You're sure it's a Mk7 R...? That seems almost too good to be true!

Thread running here, several PHers have one on order for delivery March(maybe)/April/May.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

[FamilyDub]

chrisx666 said:

FamilyDub said:

chrisx666 said:

http://www.bluechillicars.com/personal-contract-hi...

I ordered one last week. Adding 5dr, Nav and metallic paint upped it to £302 a month inc. VAT but still too tempting to miss..

You're sure it's a Mk7 R...? That seems almost too good to be true!

Thread running here, several PHers have one on order for delivery March(maybe)/April/May.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

[PapaJohns]

Iv been offered a 10 plate mk6 golf R for my passat,

Any body know how much it's worth to sell privately ?( I'd only be moving it on myself)

Black 3dr
18"wheels
Black leather ,heated ,electric seats
Fsh
93000 miles.......... Yes 93k

Current owner has done 15k mile in the last 5-6 month . Apparently paid £17k for it a little over 6 month ago

I know nothing about golf so any insight into the above would be a great help

[silentbrown]

Try webuyanycar as a starting point. Nothing on autotrader with that many miles that I can see. This if the bay of evil, but the price looks optimistic.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2010-VOLKSWAGEN-GOLF-R-2...

(If you sell it on without using/registering it could you be considered a trader and thus liable for any defects, etc..?)