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As I'm back in the gym, doing weights and plenty of cardio, essentially to strip away the excess fat, and begin to get leaner for next year, I've decided to have a few sessions with a PT in the new Year.
One thing I'd finally like to get a handle on is, diet, nutrition, and specifically how to amend it for my requirements. A couple of suggestions he made today, as part of an intro was to add in BCAA's and hydrolysed whey protein.
Is there such a thing as a Fitness Nutrion "Bible" to be recommended for those who want to improve their understanding and knowledge on the subject?
One thing I'd finally like to get a handle on is, diet, nutrition, and specifically how to amend it for my requirements. A couple of suggestions he made today, as part of an intro was to add in BCAA's and hydrolysed whey protein.
Is there such a thing as a Fitness Nutrion "Bible" to be recommended for those who want to improve their understanding and knowledge on the subject?
Edited by Digger on Monday 23 December 15:37
Digger said:
As I'm back in the gym, doing weights and plenty of cardio, essentially to strip away the excess fat, and begin to get leaner for next year, I've decided to have a few sessions with a PT in the new Year.
One thing I'd finally like to get a handle on is, diet, nutrition, and specifically how to amend it for my requirements. A couple of suggestions he made today, as part of an intro was to add in BCA's and hydrolysed whey protein.
Is there such a thing as a Fitness Nutrion "Bible" to be recommended for those who want to improve their understanding and knowledge on the subject?
Hold up a sec...you've just signed with a new PT and he's trying to get you to start using supplements right away?One thing I'd finally like to get a handle on is, diet, nutrition, and specifically how to amend it for my requirements. A couple of suggestions he made today, as part of an intro was to add in BCA's and hydrolysed whey protein.
Is there such a thing as a Fitness Nutrion "Bible" to be recommended for those who want to improve their understanding and knowledge on the subject?
What else did he say, with regards to actual foods? Whole foods, unprocessed junk, drink lots of water etc?
The simple things are that simple, unprocessed foods should be avoided. Avoid 'low fat/zero cal' foods as they are loaded with sugars and other crap.
Whole foods, meats, eggs, wholegrain, lots of veg...
I have taken supplements before, nothing crazy, whey protein, glucosamine, fish oils, vitamin B (short period after stopping alcohol), occasionally zinc.
I'll use my own judgement as to his recommendations as and when we meet up in the New Year.
Any suggested reading material in the meantime would be welcomed.
I'll use my own judgement as to his recommendations as and when we meet up in the New Year.
Any suggested reading material in the meantime would be welcomed.
There is no bible as such because we're all slightly different in what we like, how we respond to certain types of food, etc.
Loads of websites around with plenty of recipe ideas and such.
www.rippedrecipes.com
www.bodybuilding.com
www.t-nation.com
Loads of websites around with plenty of recipe ideas and such.
www.rippedrecipes.com
www.bodybuilding.com
www.t-nation.com
Supplementation is useless if you don't put the work in training and diet is poor.
I take ZERO supplements and get the results that I want. How so? Because I do the basics of putting the work in the gym and in the hard yards on the tennis/basketball court. You can get all the nutrition you need from food, yes I'm sure supplements has it's place but don't depend on it to get results because you'll set yourself for a world of fail.
There's no perfect diet that works for all, you have to experiment. Likewise the same with training. You just have to try different things to see what works. Get the balance right and with the right amount of rest too to allow your body to repair/grow.
Good luck
I take ZERO supplements and get the results that I want. How so? Because I do the basics of putting the work in the gym and in the hard yards on the tennis/basketball court. You can get all the nutrition you need from food, yes I'm sure supplements has it's place but don't depend on it to get results because you'll set yourself for a world of fail.
There's no perfect diet that works for all, you have to experiment. Likewise the same with training. You just have to try different things to see what works. Get the balance right and with the right amount of rest too to allow your body to repair/grow.
Good luck
It's about getting "lean"er which in essence, yes, is about stripping excess fat.
I think his suggestion of BCAA's was born of my telling him, and him witnessing how much cardio I like to do in the average session. . .
Typically a 30 minute elliptical "Warm Up" (too long . . . I know that!!), 10 mins gentle, ramping up to a highish 80-90%MHR
Typically 20-30 minutes of throwing metal around. Light to medium weights, out of necessity due to long-term injuries
Typically 60-90 minutes more cardio, a combo of 10-20 minutes of stairclimber, 10-20 minutes bike (not always, due to knee issues from competitive cycling yonks ago), 1hr elliptical
Cardio is generally carried out at quite a high %MHR, higher than recommended for optimum fat loss.
The last couple of days I have replaced the final elliptical 60mins with a 20-30 mins HIIT, . . . the intervals profile included in the elliptical's brain, which is comprised of equal time ON and OFF intensity. I enjoy this more as it requires extra focus and concentration.
PT's job will be to attempt to wean me off the cardio, functional exercises to work around and/or strengthen injuries, diet diet diet . . .
He'll struggle with the cardio aspect as I get such a buzz from it (when motivated).
He explained, and showed me how he expects his clients to do some work . . . email / text him a Daily Food diary so that he can comment, encourage, chastise etc. To me that may well be the most important factor in all this.
I think his suggestion of BCAA's was born of my telling him, and him witnessing how much cardio I like to do in the average session. . .
Typically a 30 minute elliptical "Warm Up" (too long . . . I know that!!), 10 mins gentle, ramping up to a highish 80-90%MHR
Typically 20-30 minutes of throwing metal around. Light to medium weights, out of necessity due to long-term injuries
Typically 60-90 minutes more cardio, a combo of 10-20 minutes of stairclimber, 10-20 minutes bike (not always, due to knee issues from competitive cycling yonks ago), 1hr elliptical
Cardio is generally carried out at quite a high %MHR, higher than recommended for optimum fat loss.
The last couple of days I have replaced the final elliptical 60mins with a 20-30 mins HIIT, . . . the intervals profile included in the elliptical's brain, which is comprised of equal time ON and OFF intensity. I enjoy this more as it requires extra focus and concentration.
PT's job will be to attempt to wean me off the cardio, functional exercises to work around and/or strengthen injuries, diet diet diet . . .
He'll struggle with the cardio aspect as I get such a buzz from it (when motivated).
He explained, and showed me how he expects his clients to do some work . . . email / text him a Daily Food diary so that he can comment, encourage, chastise etc. To me that may well be the most important factor in all this.
Get yourself on MyFitnessPal.com.
TBH you don't need a PTer and if you enjoy cardio then you should keep doing it.
The bottom line is, if you've created a calorie deficit, you lose weight. If you're eating to excess, you will gain weight. Eat 5000 calories of healthy food and you will still put on weight. Eat 5000 calories of kebabs and you will put on weight but be happier.
TBH you don't need a PTer and if you enjoy cardio then you should keep doing it.
The bottom line is, if you've created a calorie deficit, you lose weight. If you're eating to excess, you will gain weight. Eat 5000 calories of healthy food and you will still put on weight. Eat 5000 calories of kebabs and you will put on weight but be happier.
Hoofy said:
Get yourself on MyFitnessPal.com.
TBH you don't need a PTer and if you enjoy cardio then you should keep doing it.
I'm arrogant enough to agree TBH you don't need a PTer and if you enjoy cardio then you should keep doing it.
but I'm of the opinion that no matter how much you think you know, someone else always has more knowledge than yourself. Relevant to any field. Diet, and nutrition is something I have never been self-controlled enough to fine-tune, hence I think his input, and encouragement will prove invaluable. I've often heard say that 80% is down to diet. Make of that what you will. I'm inclined to agree. . .
I do actually feel like an old dog, who needs new tricks
Digger said:
I'm arrogant enough to agree but I'm of the opinion that no matter how much you think you know, someone else always has more knowledge than yourself. Relevant to any field.
Diet, and nutrition is something I have never been self-controlled enough to fine-tune, hence I think his input, and encouragement will prove invaluable. I've often heard say that 80% is down to diet. Make of that what you will. I'm inclined to agree. . .
I do actually feel like an old dog, who needs new tricks
One thing I've learnt during my exploration of how to get rid of fat is a lot of what you hear is b but I'm of the opinion that no matter how much you think you know, someone else always has more knowledge than yourself. Relevant to any field. Diet, and nutrition is something I have never been self-controlled enough to fine-tune, hence I think his input, and encouragement will prove invaluable. I've often heard say that 80% is down to diet. Make of that what you will. I'm inclined to agree. . .
I do actually feel like an old dog, who needs new tricks
ks. I mean stuff like stopping eating after 6pm (or whatever time is now trendy) or avoiding sugar or eating a big breakfast. There are little things that might help but if you stick to eating under your TDEE, you won't stay fat.As I have got older I've learnt that you can make things a lot more simple than it really is. People pad it out because when you pad things out, you can create a business.
And yes, it's about your diet. You can do all the exercise you want but if you eat too much, you'll just get fitter as you get fatter.
I like the MFP forums because there are a lot of people who stick up two fingers at the professionals, eat McDonalds and drink beer, yet hit their fitness and weight goals.
Bacon is the only nutrition advice you need! I agree with Mr Hoofy, I did years of kebabs, beer and little sleep and still hit my goals. I've changed a lot now, don't drink, but still eat my favorite foods. I do however eat healthy and clean 6 days a week, since hitting 40 my body reacts better to it.
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