Coffee economics....

[Turn7]

Probably just me, but I wondered if anyone has ever costed out the per cup price for the various sytems out there.

We have a Nespresso, but dont use it daily due to percieved cost. I do fancy a bean to cup, but Im even more tempted with the bean to jug machine idea.

I reckon beans could be the way forward, but I have no idea how many cups per bag/gramme or whatever.

Nespresso is now nearly 34p a cup if factor in delivery charges,a jar of Gold Blend is getting silly at nearly £8.

[Jonathan27]

I use the nespresso machine a couple of times a day, but I see it as good value, when you consider a take-away coffee is around 3.50.

[Turn7]

Nvere really bought into the coffee shop thing, mainly because Im working most of the time and they dont fit in with my work.

This is more about enjoying good coffee at home for a sensible price - Im not sure Nespresso is good value in comparison with bean machines ?

[cqueen]

I'd say if you want proper good coffee but without the effort of a manual espresso machine, get a B2C machine and put some (quality) fresh roasted beans in it.

[Gaspode]

If you're looking for good quality coffee at sensible prices, why not simply buy a stove-top espresso/Moka pot and tins of Illy espresso coffee?

[justin220]

I've had my B2C machine for 2 years now, and think i put in about £5 worth of beans in a week (decent beans) sometimes £3 a week with supermarket beans. I must get around 28 cups, or espresso shots from it, so about 18p, or 12p per shot not including the machine

[Turn7]

Gaspode said:

If you're looking for good quality coffee at sensible prices, why not simply buy a stove-top espresso/Moka pot and tins of Illy espresso coffee?

Dont really want the faff, plus the b2c I was looking at can be set to auto and have a jug of coffee ready for waking up to.

[Turn7]

cqueen said:

I'd say if you want proper good coffee but without the effort of a manual espresso machine, get a B2C machine and put some (quality) fresh roasted beans in it.

I think thats where Im heading. Do you have any experience of machines Like this

[BoRED S2upid]

You don't need a machine to get a decent coffee get decent beans a grinder and a stove top coffee maker job done.

[Gaspode]

Turn7 said:

Dont really want the faff, plus the b2c I was looking at can be set to auto and have a jug of coffee ready for waking up to.

You still have to clean out a b2c machine each time you use it, though (unless you go for one of the ferociously expensive plumbed-in jobs. Out of bed, into the kitchen, I minute to set up the moka pot and bung it on the stove, have a shower, coffee's ready. Hardly a faff.

[cqueen]

Turn7 said:

I think thats where Im heading. Do you have any experience of machines Like this

I've not tried, but what sort of coffee drink are you after? Nespresso etc are espresso based (lattes/capps) Or do you want filter coffee? i.e. john lewis brewer thing.

[cqueen]

Agree about the stove top, but it won't steam milk for you..

[Gaspode]

cqueen said:

Agree about the stove top, but it won't steam milk for you..

Not a problem for me, I loathe the taste of hot milk in coffee. My grandmother's idea of making coffee was to put a pan of milk on the stove, chuck in some Camp Coffee, and boil it. Turned me off so much that half a century later the idea of a cappuccino or a latte makes me want to heave.

[carreauchompeur]

Gaspode said:

You still have to clean out a b2c machine each time you use it, though (unless you go for one of the ferociously expensive plumbed-in jobs. Out of bed, into the kitchen, I minute to set up the moka pot and bung it on the stove, have a shower, coffee's ready. Hardly a faff.

My Jura runs a rinse cycle before and after you brew...not ferociously expensive if you pick up a good s/h one...

[justin220]

Gaspode said:

You still have to clean out a b2c machine each time you use it, though (unless you go for one of the ferociously expensive plumbed-in jobs. Out of bed, into the kitchen, I minute to set up the moka pot and bung it on the stove, have a shower, coffee's ready. Hardly a faff.

Most don't need cleaning every time, most have a warm up/rinse cycle, and only needs descaled every 100 cups or so, and even then it's just a tank of acid water and it flushes itself through.

Simply, turn on, let it warm up, press coffee and it grinds away. The switches itself off

[Turn7]

cqueen said:

I've not tried, but what sort of coffee drink are you after? Nespresso etc are espresso based (lattes/capps) Or do you want filter coffee? i.e. john lewis brewer thing.

Im not up on all the fancy names, but our favourite Nespresso is the Roma, and we drink that from a small mug with a splash of milk.

I know its heresy but Gold Blend is our current daily and I just dont think its worth the expense if something real can be had for a small increase.

[toastybase]

Gaspode said:

If you're looking for good quality coffee at sensible prices, why not simply buy a stove-top espresso/Moka pot and tins of Illy espresso coffee?

This is the best route to a good cup of coffee I found.

just rise it in the sink after and leave on the draining board.

I've been using Illy amongst other brands however I may try beans in the new year and just use the blender to grind them down.

[Gaspode]

justin220 said:

Most don't need cleaning every time, most have a warm up/rinse cycle, and only needs descaled every 100 cups or so, and even then it's just a tank of acid water and it flushes itself through.

Simply, turn on, let it warm up, press coffee and it grinds away. The switches itself off

So how does a 150 quid machine get the used grounds out of the group head?

[NIIKME]

If you have a nespresso you can make the most of its function by using refillable pods? I bought ones branded "coffee duck" off the online auction site..... Works a treat if you use finely ground coffee - lavazza being my personal fav. Because its so cheap to run I tend to double the shot per cup. Nespresso pods are about half the price over in France but I got fed up with running out so often. The refillable pods are brilliant.

[Turn7]

Are coffeeduck things really any good then ?

Edited by Turn7 on Friday 27th December 18:20