Reims-Gueux Race Circuit
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frogspawn

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Monday 30th December 2013
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In 2004 we visited Reims-Gueux Race Circuit






Went back this year to see the changes








frogspawn

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LordBretSinclair

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Monday 30th December 2013
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We were there in September on our way down to Stelvio.

Very atmospheric and well worth a visit smile


frogspawn

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Monday 30th December 2013
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A lot of work has been done but I do not think it will ever be a French Goodwood unfortunately.

truck71

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201 months

Tuesday 31st December 2013
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Hmm, not sure- I think it's better that it doesn't become a French goodwood. In its current state it's accessible to everyone at anytime and allows you to exercise imagination. A very atmospheric place.

iva cosworth

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192 months

Tuesday 31st December 2013
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I was there in May.


tapkaJohnD

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233 months

Tuesday 31st December 2013
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Isn't it good!
I took the race Vitesse there in 2010: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kc3Iu4yHb_w

But do not forget - N'oublier pas! - Les Amis du Circuit de Gueux!
They are making an especial effrot for the 90th anniversaire in 2016:
http://www.amis-du-circuit-de-gueux.fr/SITES/amis-...
OR
See their website: http://www.amis-du-circuit-de-gueux.fr/-Accueil-
My French is so bad, I can't find any mention there of membership of l'ACG, but after I visited it I joined, for a sum which I thought was very good value for the pleasure my mere visit had given me.

If you visit Reims-Gueux, support Les Amis!
John

CAPP0

20,840 posts

232 months

Tuesday 31st December 2013
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I'll add one of my snaps from our visit (just!) last year:



As said, great place, very interesting and atmospheric. Reims centre is pretty good for the evening after as well.

Edited by CAPP0 on Wednesday 1st January 12:33

beach bum

277 posts

181 months

Tuesday 31st December 2013
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Chasing my friends GTV on the way back to Greece from Le Mans Classic 2008. Good times.


tapkaJohnD

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233 months

Wednesday 1st January 2014
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Not to be outdone...


Robert Elise

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174 months

Wednesday 1st January 2014
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Anyone know how the future is looking? A few years ago there was a housing estate proposed, which would cover the pit area.

gary71

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208 months

Wednesday 1st January 2014
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Wonderful place smile

I'd imagine most of the PH community has stopped to take these photos if anywhere close. I took this on the way back from the Alps a couple of years back:


Reims Old Circuit by Suggs, on Flickr

Robert Elise said:
Anyone know how the future is looking? A few years ago there was a housing estate proposed, which would cover the pit area.
You'd really hope given the masses of nothing that surround it they could find somewhere else to build a housing estate smile

CAPP0

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Wednesday 1st January 2014
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gary71 said:
Robert Elise said:
Anyone know how the future is looking? A few years ago there was a housing estate proposed, which would cover the pit area.
You'd really hope given the masses of nothing that surround it they could find somewhere else to build a housing estate smile
And that the amount spent on it recently might indicate that those plans have receded?

Mykap

662 posts

217 months

Thursday 2nd January 2014
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Wonderful place - these are from 2011.

Spottedlaurel

493 posts

198 months

Thursday 2nd January 2014
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Another PHer here who's visited! Shots from 20+ years ago:


Reims circuit buildings, 1993 by Spottedlaurel, on Flickr


Reims circuit buildings, 1993 by Spottedlaurel, on Flickr

chevronb37

6,472 posts

215 months

Friday 3rd January 2014
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I visited last year and bumped into the president of the ACG so we arranged an interview. This is the article I wrote:

"The motor sporting world, for all its current interest in historic racing, can be an unforgiving place, with so many important landmarks of the past left for nature to consume, or simply destroyed in favour of something new. If the tight motor racing community cannot care for its treasures, what happens when the rest of the world gets hold of them?

In Britain, the earliest permanent race track was Brooklands and visitors of all ages can still gaze in wonder at the small remaining section of its terrifying concrete banking, though most of the enormous speedbowl was lost to developers decades ago. Before Brooklands was even a glimmer in the eye of creator Hugh Locke King, French combatants were thundering from village to village in contests of speed. It would be fair to say that the traditions of motor racing in Europe were borne of those days and those trials, but today precious little of any tangibility remains to remind us of those early motor sporting endeavours on the open roads.

In 1926, a new track was formed out of the public roads near the champagne town of Reims. Linking the towns of Thillois and Gueux in a triangle it became one of the premier French motor racing venues. Though truncated slightly in 1951 to bypass Gueux – actually making the circuit even quicker – it held the French Grand Prix and famous 12 hour sports car epic before racing finally ceased in 1969 for cars and 1972 for motorcycles.

In the intervening 40 years, locals have been able to reclaim their roads, and in fact one corner of the track no longer exists, but several of the original buildings still stand; remarkably intact and utterly evocative. While its contemporary north of Paris, Rouen-les-Essarts, retains no period buildings, Reims exists like a time warp. You can almost hear the engine notes of Ferrari and Maserati – Hawthorn chasing down Fangio in that thrilling 1953 Grand Prix.

Today the great tribunes opposite the pits loom nobly over passing motorists and their condition is remarkably good given their age, though there is evidence of dilapidation where steel reinforcement is being exposed as the concrete frame flakes and crumbles. The old pit buildings are of breeze block construction and their condition is really very good. They are in the process of being painted and patched up by a devoted group called Les Amis du Circuit de Gueux. The ACG, as the association is otherwise known, states its aims as maintaining the legend of the circuit, safeguarding its infrastructure and welcoming classic vehicles to the site once more.

The ACG has already restored the famous old scoreboard to gleaming condition. Mounted on a turntable it is once again able to spin to face all members of the crowd. With the pit buildings well under way, their next target is Le Stand des Marques, where the drivers rested during the gruelling 12 Hours battles.

Gérard Cuif is a local resident, classic Porsche racer and president of the association – often seen paint brush in hand doing anything he can to help preserve the circuit he loves. He fleshes out some of the details: “The buildings at Reims were not knocked down many years ago because their owner was a private society which had bought the property of 15 ha from the ACC (Automobile Club of Champagne) on December 15th 1971. This society was directed by Max Rousseaux who protected the history of the track. But Max Rousseaux died and the next owner became the village of Gueux in 2000. When the mayor of Gueux bought the buildings, he decided to build a private race track. He lost his election in 2008 because of ecologist inhabitants. The new mayor, along with the notaries of Gueux, wants to build private houses in place of the circuit buildings. Founded in 2004, the ACG decided to ask the French government to protect this mythical site. It was obtained in May 2008 for a large part of the buildings by the French Ministry of Culture (grandstands, pits, chronometer tower).”

However, the story doesn’t end there and the ACG faces a constant battle to justify the continued existence of the historic and evocative buildings. The politicians in Gueux need to see tourists visiting and that the circuit is not deserted. Meanwhile, among the 300 amis, 20 faithful members continue to do all they can to keep the site clear and tidy, slowly renovating the old buildings when red tape and budgets permit.

It is clear from spending time with Gérard that he does not believe the amazing old facilities here are safe and that action is required, not only to keep them looking presentable, but also to keep them standing at all. As a result, he has urged all classic car and motor racing enthusiasts to help. At its most simple, this means visiting the site, as Gérard puts it, “The English people can support us by visiting the track when they go to the Mediterranean for their holidays!” For those willing to do a little more, the association holds a membership scheme where subscriptions help pay for cement, tools and paint to help with continuing the works. For the really committed, les amis are always looking out for enterprises interested in partnering in the restoration.

It is saddening when so much of our motor sporting heritage becomes lost or hidden. At Reims, so much is intact and remains so evocative that it cannot be ignored and cannot be allowed to be bulldozed to make way for another housing estate. Racing enthusiasts, you know what to do.

For more information, visit: http://www.amis-du-circuit-de-gueux.fr/-Welcome-&q...

And a few photos from our trip:















Edited by chevronb37 on Friday 3rd January 17:00

tapkaJohnD

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233 months

Friday 3rd January 2014
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Thank you, chevron, for the latest news!
Your link doesn't work for me so here it is again:
http://www.amis-du-circuit-de-gueux.fr/-Welcome-

Did Monsieur Le President tell you where you sign up to joing Les Amis?
As I said above, I joined after my 2010 visit, in that I paid for one year's membership.
I'll do it again when I next see those white stands, but I can't find the right place on the ACG website.
Can you help?
John


chevronb37

6,472 posts

215 months

Friday 3rd January 2014
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Hi John, thanks for furnishing me with the correct link. I've updated my post above accordingly.

I don't know whether I'm totally up-to-date as this all came about last year I'm afraid. If you drop me a PM I'll send you Gerard's e-mail address so you can contact him directly about renewing your membership of the ACG if you like?