Ultima Register
Discussion
Hi Ultima Owners.
On several occasions I've found the need to belong to a car club to take my Ultima to the event, usually only if the car is post 1973 which it clearly is. Has anyone else encountered this problem?
The solution is to belong to one. Some owners may remember the original owners club run by John Castle followed by a more active version run by David MacDonald. These no longer exist and have in effect been replaced by the Pistonheads forum which is a much more effective approach but still doesn’t answer the problem of the need to belong to a car club. I thought maybe an Ultima Register would be more effective as it answers the need but doesn’t involve too much work. My view is that it should be no more intrusive than Pistonheads as each of us has supplied a limited amount of personal information. For those that don’t wish to supply a name, that’s fine. The important thing is car details, age etc. The register number can then be based on chassis number as this is the single consistant feature of the cars.
Anyone interested? By the way I've discussed this with the factory and they are happy with this.
Happy New Year - Ultiman.
On several occasions I've found the need to belong to a car club to take my Ultima to the event, usually only if the car is post 1973 which it clearly is. Has anyone else encountered this problem?
The solution is to belong to one. Some owners may remember the original owners club run by John Castle followed by a more active version run by David MacDonald. These no longer exist and have in effect been replaced by the Pistonheads forum which is a much more effective approach but still doesn’t answer the problem of the need to belong to a car club. I thought maybe an Ultima Register would be more effective as it answers the need but doesn’t involve too much work. My view is that it should be no more intrusive than Pistonheads as each of us has supplied a limited amount of personal information. For those that don’t wish to supply a name, that’s fine. The important thing is car details, age etc. The register number can then be based on chassis number as this is the single consistant feature of the cars.
Anyone interested? By the way I've discussed this with the factory and they are happy with this.
Happy New Year - Ultiman.
An ultima register would be ok with me.
Most registers go with chassis numbers as reg numbers tend to get changed over a cars life.
Can't see a problem with sharing chassis numbers, it's not like these cars are used as "ringers" or the like, in fact I believe there haven't been any stolen Ultimas reported either.
Most registers go with chassis numbers as reg numbers tend to get changed over a cars life.
Can't see a problem with sharing chassis numbers, it's not like these cars are used as "ringers" or the like, in fact I believe there haven't been any stolen Ultimas reported either.
WHY ? I cant see any point of a register, any info you may require is on PH or just ask, further info can be gained from the factory so what is the point ?
any events are on PH usually after the event, there is always a poor attendance at the factory open day, Stoneleigh, 1 Ult at CPOP (thanks Dom) of which I have posted dates, I suggest the factory promotes PH when they get any inquiries about an Ult.
When I insure the car I always mention PH as the club and get a discount on my insurance, so again WHY ? what are the benefits of a register ?
PS Happy New Year !!!
any events are on PH usually after the event, there is always a poor attendance at the factory open day, Stoneleigh, 1 Ult at CPOP (thanks Dom) of which I have posted dates, I suggest the factory promotes PH when they get any inquiries about an Ult.
When I insure the car I always mention PH as the club and get a discount on my insurance, so again WHY ? what are the benefits of a register ?
PS Happy New Year !!!
Unfortunately that doesn't overcome the car club/register requirement of certain shows. Also Pistonheads which is really only an internet forum has no register of Ultima cars. Only the factory has the record of what they sold, but not necessarily what was built. I think it would be useful for all owners and those with an interest to know what Ultimas exist with some of the cars' detailed spec. Think ahead 20 years when no such cars are available from commercial suppliers due for example to legislation and a register would be useful then too.
I solve the insurance car club issue by being a member of the TVR club (I have a Cerbera). It doesn't need to be an Ultima car club to get the cover for your Ult.
I understand the interest in a register but not sure who would administer it and check the information provided by 'owners'.
Paul
I understand the interest in a register but not sure who would administer it and check the information provided by 'owners'.
Paul
Agreed, I'm a member of SELOC and my insurance accepts that.
Administrating a register would take time and dedication of a wiling party, trouble is ownership is a "transient" thing and as soon as the administrator decides to move marques you are then faced with the same problem.
Perhaps the factory could administrate a register for a small annual fee? they probably have a head start anyway.
Administrating a register would take time and dedication of a wiling party, trouble is ownership is a "transient" thing and as soon as the administrator decides to move marques you are then faced with the same problem.
Perhaps the factory could administrate a register for a small annual fee? they probably have a head start anyway.
F.C. said:
Perhaps the factory could administrate a register for a small annual fee? they probably have a head start anyway.
I imagine the Factory knows the identity of every Ultima sold and identity of the initial owner. The sale and change of owner becomes a more tricky issue to follow. I doubt you can "impose" an announce of ownership change. I don't think it matters too much who the owner is. Vehicle details and spec are important as is vehicle identification, preferably not by number plate which is easily traceable. Ownership records would be interesting for the future but no more and the issue of privacy will be more important to some than others. The idea is a register rather than a forum or a club, both of which indicate some activity. Most modern cars have the chassis number visible on the lower wind screen so not much of a secret.
I agree the factory would be best placed to do this but they may not wish to (they haven’t so far) and any car entered on the register would have to be with the owner's consent. Maybe the "Register" could be a bit like a more formalised Ultima Wiki if the factory doesn’t which to pick this up. I don’t mind doing it myself as I cannot see that it would involve much effort. As Clarkson says, how hard can it be!.
I agree the factory would be best placed to do this but they may not wish to (they haven’t so far) and any car entered on the register would have to be with the owner's consent. Maybe the "Register" could be a bit like a more formalised Ultima Wiki if the factory doesn’t which to pick this up. I don’t mind doing it myself as I cannot see that it would involve much effort. As Clarkson says, how hard can it be!.
Again WHAT IS THE POINT ?? when these cars change owners the new owner usually up grades the spec anyway so it is highly unlikely its the same spec as when it goes onto a register these are KIT Cars at the end of the day. PH is our club as such and please FC don't be putting ideas to the factory as how they can charge any more money 
The TVR S series lot on PH are organised. Have a look:
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
A matter of fact they have all sorts of wikis, suspension, bolts and owner map! Who do we ask at PH to set up something similar for Ultima so potential builders and buyers can have a useful database of technical information. I don't like the idea of adding too much personal info though.
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
A matter of fact they have all sorts of wikis, suspension, bolts and owner map! Who do we ask at PH to set up something similar for Ultima so potential builders and buyers can have a useful database of technical information. I don't like the idea of adding too much personal info though.
Edited by Ult-Jim on Friday 3rd January 17:41
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